CA CA - Barbara Thomas, 69, from Bullhead City AZ, disappeared in Mojave desert, 12 July 2019 #8

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MsBetsy said:
In what way were his interviews "hinky beyond words?"

Chris Watt's body language and words indicated deception. He had his arms crossed in front of his body, he rocked back and forth, his eyes looked right and left instead of steadily looking at the person interviewing him. He constantly paused and repeated himself, as if searching for the right words.
He laughed nervously, avoided direct questions, and instead of answering in a complete sentence said "umm, like, and," etc, which is a sign that the person is searching for words, trying to think what to say because they are making it up as they go along.

Other than RT's explanation of Barbara being kidnapped not making much sense, I didn't notice any clear signs of deception. Imo
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The way RT described what Barbra was wearing and that she had a beer??? Odd. The abduction theory? Odd. The love letters? Odd. Canceling her trip right away? Odd. I don't know how he even thought about that fact, but maybe he's highly detailed.

Hinky is hard to explain, he just seemed odd to me in a gut instinct type of way, that is why I said JMO.

ETA: Clarified how RT referred to "Barbra in Bikini top and had a beer" in conjunction with abduction.
 
RANCH said:
I'm not sure about being discrete but it sure seems to be an impersonal way to communicate.

JMO
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Do we know how often they spent time with each other or even when the last time they saw each other was?
I got the impression Barbara did not see her son very much in recent years. I wonder how well he knew RT and what makes him so sure he is involved in her disappearance. Did he ever give a reason why he doesn't trust him?
 
MsBetsy said:
Do we know how often they spent time with each other or even when the last time they saw each other was?
I got the impression Barbara did not see her son very much in recent years. I wonder how well he knew RT and what makes him so sure he is involved in her disappearance. Did he ever give a reason why he doesn't trust him?
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Not that we can discuss here.
 
MsBetsy said:
Do we know how often they spent time with each other or even when the last time they saw each other was?
I got the impression Barbara did not see her son very much in recent years. I wonder how well he knew RT and what makes him so sure he is involved in her disappearance. Did he ever give a reason why he doesn't trust him?
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Good questions. I’m wondering if maybe Mother and son just recently started communicating again secretly via emails. Perhaps someone wasn’t happy about it. Clearly, there’s a reason the son doesn’t trust him. Gotta be some history there MOO
 
I thought he talked about the bikini & the carrying a beer & the crossing the road & someone picking her up - way too much,way too soon.
Like he’s selling a story (a scenario to deflect away from him & the area)
And ( SODDI ) some other dude did it.


All JMO & I was married to a liar
 
Micheline said:
Let me help you here.

Robert about his wife in bikini and beer-disrespectful!
Robert claims kidnapped because she was in bikini-blaming the victim!
Barbara was agitated that morning-fall out with Robert!
Kennel staff, Barbara was not her usual self.
Robert cancelled her flight within a few days-suspicious!
Robert jogged away from gasstation-suspicious!
Robert buying ice-Probably for wounds!
I want her back comment-he considered her a posession.
Robert had no real tears
LE does not trust Robert
Robert did not call Barbara's son-what is he hiding?
Robert was jealous of Barbara going to Hongkong
Robert was posessive
Perfect place to get rid of your wife
Love notes; Barbara, was afraid of Robert and tried to calm him down with love notes.
His arm around Barbara-Robert was a possessive man, this is not love but obsession.
Robert knew Barbara, would not return from HK.
Barbara's dog still in kennel-Robert never even bothered to get her dog out.
Robert hangs out in casinos and clubs, why would someone who lost his wife be having fun like this, absurd!
Robert is not looking for Barbara.
Robert never appeared on TV again.
Robert dyes his hair, probably has an affair.
Robert is a hustler
Barbara had no privacy
Robert prohibited Barbara to have a phone
Robert kept his wife's lovenotes- absurd that he showed these.
Robert's car is extremely clean-that clearly raises some red flags!
Keys under rock- Why would anyone do that, makes no sense unless you disappear your wife!
She was the love of my live comment -Chris Watts anyone?
Barbara's arm around Robert - He is overly possessive, she is reassuring him.
Robert should have seen Barbara when he turned the corner.
Robert should have heard Barbara.
Robert should have seen a car in case of kidnapping.
Robert is not putting up posters in Las Vegas.
Robert is not running around franticly.
Robert speaks without emotion.
Robert failed a polygraph.
Robert hired a lawyer--suspicious
Robert no longer has a lawyer-suspicious
Robert pretended to be disabled.
Robert made sure gasstation people thought Barbara was in the truck- that makes our hinky meter go off.
The list goes on...

It is kind of remarkable how such a guilty person does not even pretend to be innocent.
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Yes, like the hot partying woman caused her own abduction!

MOO
 
Micheline said:
Let me help you here.

Robert about his wife in bikini and beer-disrespectful!
Robert claims kidnapped because she was in bikini-blaming the victim!
Barbara was agitated that morning-fall out with Robert!
Kennel staff, Barbara was not her usual self.
Robert cancelled her flight within a few days-suspicious!
Robert jogged away from gasstation-suspicious!
Robert buying ice-Probably for wounds!
I want her back comment-he considered her a posession.
Robert had no real tears
LE does not trust Robert
Robert did not call Barbara's son-what is he hiding?
Robert was jealous of Barbara going to Hongkong
Robert was posessive
Perfect place to get rid of your wife
Love notes; Barbara, was afraid of Robert and tried to calm him down with love notes.
His arm around Barbara-Robert was a possessive man, this is not love but obsession.
Robert knew Barbara, would not return from HK.
Barbara's dog still in kennel-Robert never even bothered to get her dog out.
Robert hangs out in casinos and clubs, why would someone who lost his wife be having fun like this, absurd!
Robert is not looking for Barbara.
Robert never appeared on TV again.
Robert dyes his hair, probably has an affair.
Robert is a hustler
Robert saying, well she WAS wearing a bikini, obviously speaking in past tense.
Barbara had no privacy
Robert prohibited Barbara to have a phone
Robert kept his wife's lovenotes- absurd that he showed these.
Robert's car is extremely clean-that clearly raises some red flags!
Keys under rock- Why would anyone do that, makes no sense unless you disappear your wife!
She was the love of my life comment -Chris Watts anyone?
Barbara's arm around Robert - He is overly possessive, she is reassuring him.
Robert should have seen Barbara when he turned the corner.
Robert should have heard Barbara.
Robert should have seen a car in case of kidnapping.
Robert is not putting up posters in Las Vegas.
Robert is not running around franticly.
Robert speaks without emotion.
Robert failed a polygraph.
Robert hired a lawyer--suspicious
Robert no longer has a lawyer-suspicious
Robert pretended to be disabled.
Robert made sure gasstation people thought Barbara was in the truck- that makes our hinky meter go off.
The list goes on...

It is kind of remarkable how such a guilty person does not even pretend to be innocent.
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Great summary though a few are a bit exaggerated.
You forgot:
Robert never asked any family in HK if Barb had reached out.
Robert told family in HK to cancel hotel
Statement analyst judged Robert's media statements strongly indicate deception
Robert referred to pullout as crime scene
Robert referred to himself as prime suspect when LE said nothing of the sort
Robert has two ex wives besides one deceased
Sleight inconsistencies in Robert's account of events lend to disbelief
Suspicious behaviour noted by family while on holiday together with Robert
Robert does not like to spend time in many public places
Robert (nor Barb) never mentioned airplane to our family
Robert has history with sketchy company
Robert never walks the dog
Robert doesn't often say hello to neighbors
Robert's media responses seem practised and scripted
Robert wanted to purchase lots to either side of his house for greater privacy
Robert tried to distance Barb from her own son
Despite suspecting his wife was abducted Robert never told Barb's son
Despite suspecting his wife was abducted Robert never put forward a reward
Robert's description of waving his arms is patently ridiculous

I am sure I've missed a bunch too...
 
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girlhasnoname said:
The way RT described what Barbra was wearing and that she had a beer??? Odd. The abduction theory? Odd. The love letters? Odd. Canceling her trip right away? Odd. I don't know how he even thought about that fact, but maybe he's highly detailed.

Hinky is hard to explain, he just seemed odd to me in a gut instinct type of way, that is why I said JMO.

ETA: Clarified how RT referred to "Barbra in Bikini top and had a beer" in conjunction with abduction.
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Well, yes, it might be odd but it doesn't necessarily mean he is involved. Maybe that's really what she was wearing. Maybe she really was drinking a beer.
Maybe he thought she must have been abducted because LE found no sign of her and he didn't believe she got lost.

Maybe he felt defensive after being treated like a suspect so he felt he needed to share her letters with the media to prove their love for each other.

Maybe he cancelled the trip because he thought that since she was nowhere to be found she wasn't going to make it.
Wasn't she already missing for several days? Maybe he thought she wouldn't be up to a trip after such an ordeal.
There's really no way to tell.
All those things might be signs that he is lying but unless there is evidence that contradicts his story it doesn't necessarily point to foul play. Imo
 
MsBetsy said:
Well, yes, it might be odd but it doesn't necessarily mean he is involved. Maybe that's really what she was wearing. Maybe she really was drinking a beer.
Maybe he thought she must have been abducted because LE found no sign of her and he didn't believe she got lost.

Maybe he felt defensive after being treated like a suspect so he felt he needed to share her letters with the media to prove their love for each other.

Maybe he cancelled the trip because he thought that since she was nowhere to be found she wasn't going to make it.
Wasn't she already missing for several days? Maybe he thought she wouldn't be up to a trip after such an ordeal.
There's really no way to tell.
All those things might be signs that he is lying but unless there is evidence that contradicts his story it doesn't necessarily point to foul play. Imo
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This is LE's exact predicament as far as they have shared with me (which isn't much at all). Just because someone is suspicious doesn't mean they are a killer.

Personally I am not saying that either. I am saying there is more to the story of Barbara's disappearance, which he knows, that he has not shared. It is time to share the details, everything from what they ate for breakfast to showing the public and the media the photos he took on the day she went missing. That will do a lot more than love notes to get me to believe his account of events.
 
rosesfromangels said:
BBM. Her brother was ill, I think that was the impetus for the trip vs. getting distance from the husband. However, neither of us really knows.

Amateur opinion and speculation
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The fact is: both happen simulataneously. There is no way around that. If she gets on a plane in Vegas, transfers to an international flight at LAX and lands in Hong Kong, as opposed to staying home or bringing RT with her...

Then she is simultaneously visiting family and putting distance between herself and RT. This is, IMO, the inevitable outcome of her doing that flight.
 
RANCH said:
RT wont walk the dog.

Okay, I'm convinced he's guilty.
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barb loved that dog.
he wouldn't walk it.

everyone can take away from that very different things.....

this fits along side with her secretive newly re-established relationship with her son and barb having speaker phone conversations only.

pattern behaviour.

moo
 
dbdb11 said:
to stage or to execute? when you say stage i think shakespeare.

the goal being... to make a spouse disappear?

why go to the trouble, indeed. more importantly, imo, why did she disappear when she did?

according to my interpretation of LE statements she has vanished without a trace, and they DO NOT believe she was abducted.

and they DO NOT plan to search for her anymore.

so... i wonder... wtf do LE think happened?

in your opinion it is an unnecessary step. but you might not have the means or will to outsource such a thing. you might not mind getting your hands dirty with a diy job... someone else might have different ideas and different resources than you. and it might make for a tighter alibi than 'she tripped and fell in that mine, i didn't push her' for example.

i have a powerful imagination, so narratives come easy.

in this case i dont need my imagination. (fully prepared for this to be deleted) i am talking about a professional lyer, a swindler, a lowlife scoundrel who would abandon his own daughter... his whole family thought he had mellowed with age and turned a new leaf. barb leveled him out apparently, and because of her they accepted him back into their homes. i don't blame the thomas's, and especially don't blame them for not digging through skeletons in the closet. but i will keep digging.

again, i appreciate all of your combined efforts, but i'm angry too. the thought that this case could go cold, or that it was executed 'perfectly'....

no. its not going to fade like that.
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A concise character profile..thank you. Sad he abandoned his daughter.
 
campbellsouup said:
FOIA doesn't apply to ongoing investigations
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Since RT has not been named a suspect or even a poi, FOIA might concede and hand over the 911 call to the right news source.
She's been missing since July 12th.
What can releasing RT's 911 call hurt ?

This is a missing persons investigation as far as the 911 call is concerned.
Any information helpful in locating Barbara, or what has occurred, should be foremost in the public's -- and certainly -- RT's mind.
 
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