Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #48

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PS had arrangements in place to go to Casino. He didn't go, he didn't even phone to say he wasn't coming even though he said he thought he did phone. That to me seems very odd. Was he in a state of shock or panic? Did he stay as leaving would have brought suspicion? Was he needing to protect somebody? Was he in fear?
 
way way back there was a msm quote from a male neighbour interviewed in the first week stating the exact to the minute time his wife left to go shopping, it seemed a giant red flag, i was sure it was mr w who said it, and it was discussed here, but by that time the original article had disappeared, everyone had differing ideas who said it, i wonder if the original unchanged msm article is in the first thread?
 
way way back there was a msm quote from a male neighbour interviewed in the first week stating the exact to the minute time his wife left to go shopping, it seemed a giant red flag, i was sure it was mr w who said it, and it was discussed here, but by that time the original article had disappeared, everyone had differing ideas who said it, i wonder if the original unchanged msm article is in the first thread?

Bear is this what you're looking for?

Edit: sorry I just noticed you said "the original article".

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...-false-hope-12-months-on-20150903-gjenjz.html
 
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way way back there was a msm quote from a male neighbour interviewed in the first week stating the exact to the minute time his wife left to go shopping, it seemed a giant red flag, i was sure it was mr w who said it, and it was discussed here, but by that time the original article had disappeared, everyone had differing ideas who said it, i wonder if the original unchanged msm article is in the first thread?

This could be it? It was PS who spent the next day with the pool net IIRC.

A Benaroon Drive resident said his wife drove out of the street, which William's grandmother no longer lives in, one minute before William disappeared.

It was 26 or 28 minutes to 11am, he remembered with minute detail.

"She never saw a car or noticed anything strange," he said.

The man spent the next day with a pool net in hand searching through a dam and waterholes, anxious about what he might find.

William Tyrrell investigation: highs, lows and false hope 12 months on | photos, video
 
This could be it? It was PS who spent the next day with the pool net IIRC.

A Benaroon Drive resident said his wife drove out of the street, which William's grandmother no longer lives in, one minute before William disappeared.

It was 26 or 28 minutes to 11am, he remembered with minute detail.

"She never saw a car or noticed anything strange," he said.

The man spent the next day with a pool net in hand searching through a dam and waterholes, anxious about what he might find.

William Tyrrell investigation: highs, lows and false hope 12 months on | photos, video

yes, thankyou, thats probably it, ive been searching but it was so long ago and lots of articles deleted now
at the time i thought it was mr w but now realize it must have been ps
 
yes, thankyou, thats probably it, ive been searching but it was so long ago and lots of articles deleted now
at the time i thought it was mr w but now realize it must have been ps

These tweets in reference to PS searching water holes the next day led me to believe he is the man quoted in the media report.

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They were out in the drive next to the carport riding bikes when jw left?

Yes, it seems they were likely on the other side of the house - furthest from her house - when Judy Wilson heard them. I recall reading that just the other day. I wonder if Judy Wilson saw the teal car, as well.


Minutes later, William and his sister were riding their bicycles in the property's driveway, when a car drove past, did a U-turn in a neighbour's driveway and drove off.
Around this time, Judy Wilson, whose property was just metres from William's grandmother's yard, heard the two children playing before she took off to run errands in town.
The day William Tyrrell vanished



Paul Savage said he was having tea and toast at that time, and could hear them also.

The elderly man told the inquest before William went missing he'd sat on his veranda with toast and tea between 9am and 9.30am and could hear children playing.
He was unsure whether his late wife, Heather, was with him.
"I remember hearing the kids."
Tyrrell neighbour adds new pieces to story
 
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A statement from HS would be very revealing I'm sure.

A scenario that may be plausible is that Heather actually left earlier, something occurred, it was dealt with and she left again at the time given by PS. His minute details do not fit with the timeline given by Det. Beecroft. Why is that I wonder?

'A Benaroon Drive resident said his wife drove out of the street, which William's grandmother no longer lives in, one minute before William disappeared.
It was 26 or 28 minutes to 11am, he remembered with minute detail.
"She never saw a car or noticed anything strange," he said.'

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...-false-hope-12-months-on-20150903-gjenjz.html
I often wonder if HS left earlier too...
 
I've also attempted to generate a visual timeline - not to be controversial - but because I generally think it could be helpful.

I started off using the info provided a few threads back when timelines were being discussed -originally compiled by Frogwell (and kindly added to by many other WebSleuthers -please don't be offended if I don't name you all as I'm sure to get it wrong) and since then have been cross checking it with other MSM sources including Lia's tweets.

Lia Harris (@LiaJHarris) | Twitter

So... please be mindful that this is just a draft and that I am inviting constructive feedback with the view that it can be a shared resource for others, should they wish to use it.

It's only part 1 of the timeline I've been working on for the day William went missing - covering off on from the kids first woke up until when the first police arrived.

The top line relates to observations made by William's Foster Family and FGM's neighbours. The bottom line shows what PS was doing in the same time frame.

There are a few times that I'm not entirely sure about (as highlighted)- particularly in relation to the hearing of car/s by the Crabbes that were mentioned in the original list (see link below). I can't be sure whether the Crabbes heard a car on two separate occasions or whether the times have been mixed up. Any clarification would be appreciated.

Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #48"]Australia - Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #48


Anyway - what I'm trying to show here is that PS's window of opportunity is very small. Not impossible, just small.

I also found it interesting that no "times" seem to be publicly available for activities between when PS finished his phone call at 10:07 and when he says Heather left for bingo approximately 30 mins later.

I know he said he was packing his bags.. but what I'm getting at is that it seems there was no time period specifically attributed to that activity and it just so happens to be when William went missing.

Lia Harris on Twitter

Lia Harris on Twitter

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If you can fill the gap in question, please let me know.

All MOO!!!
I wonder if the car Crabes heard was the car that may of taken William,because if it was at 10.30 ffc would of seen it leave as she rounded the deck to look for William,she said it was silent so im not to sure that time is correct,was this time exact ? also where did AMS live ? ..and did ff hear HS leaving ?
 
PS had arrangements in place to go to Casino. He didn't go, he didn't even phone to say he wasn't coming even though he said he thought he did phone. That to me seems very odd. Was he in a state of shock or panic? Did he stay as leaving would have brought suspicion? Was he needing to protect somebody? Was he in fear?
the only person i see him protecting is Heather but that cant be the case if she left at 10.37/8 William was already gone ? was he protecting the posty ? imo random thoughts
 
the only person i see him protecting is Heather but that cant be the case if she left at 10.37/8 William was already gone ? was he protecting the posty ? imo random thoughts
and i found my answer to AMS dwelling.. i would think if HS left at at 10.37/8 and FFC was at AMS at 10.40 she would have heard or seen HS leaving as she was walking to her house surely ?
 
another random thought all imo, 10.15 maybe..HS did leave earlier or not ..and a man was sussing the posty out at the letter box,William thought the car was his dad and ran to the rd,posty came down the rd saw man gawking at her,sped up and hit William.....hid him until he had time to sort it out?
 
sorry in overdrive tonight ... can anyone tell me what time PS had his 2 nd breakfast.. as im thinking it was after HS left,so in 12min he had a 2nd breakfast,rung his brother,packed his bag
 
sorry in overdrive tonight ... can anyone tell me what time PS had his 2 nd breakfast.. as im thinking it was after HS left,so in 12min he had a 2nd breakfast,rung his brother,packed his bag

Lia Harris @LiaJHarris
Aug 20
Savage told the court he was again preparing to have “tea and toast” after his wife left. “I wanted something to eat” he told the court.

Lia Harris @LiaJHarris
Aug 20
Craddock SC clarified that he claims he was having tea and toast for a second time.

Lia Harris @LiaJHarris
Aug 20
The court heard there was then a knock at the front door as he was making his second lot of tea and toast. He said he recognised the person as a neighbour, who he later learned was Anne-Marie Sharpley.
 
the only person i see him protecting is Heather but that cant be the case if she left at 10.37/8 William was already gone ? was he protecting the posty ? imo random thoughts

Or possibly protecting himself?


I think Greg & Regina Newton's police statements might hold some weight, with regard to the activities/movements at the Savage's house that morning.

What time Heather came home that day (if she came home after they arrived).
If Heather said she was at bingo, or relayed where she had been before they arrived.
What they had for dinner ... was it a meal that Heather had prepared earlier?
How Savage was acting that evening.
If Savage left the house that evening, or stayed home and visited with them.

I have been through Lia's tweets and also various articles, but the Newton's police statements are not mentioned. With the high interest in Paul Savage, I would think they have been interviewed in detail by the police. imo
 
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