Officer who shot resident dead in her own home was dispatched to burglary call, not welfare check: Docs
https://www.crimeonline.com/2019/10/17/officer-who-shot-resident-dead-in-her-own-home-was-dispatched-to-burglary-call-not-welfare-check-docs/
I agree. We've known for days now that it was an "open structure" call, and there's been a lot of discussion that the cops should have knocked on the door first etc... I'm not so sure about that.If he was sent on a burglary call that kind of changes the picture. I think this young cop was very wise to seek council and speak to nobody!
If he thought he was looking for a burglar and saw somebody in the window with the front door open.....
The Fourth Amendment right of individuals to remain safe and secure in their own homes, (Free from government intrusion) is a fundamental civil liberty.
Unwarranted and non-emergency welfare checks should not deprive us of those rights. (but they often do!).
I would never take anyone's 4thA rights away, by calling in a welfare check, without being a great deal more concerned and at least attempting to make contact with my neighbors.
It always amazes me how quick we are to just hand those rights over like we don't even care if we have any.
"I appreciate your concern, but as you can see, we 're fine."
Is my preference to just caving in to "mind if we come in" warrantless search inquiries...
I'm not attempting to change your experience. (I apologize if I'm coming across contentious).
I'm just pointing out, that, as you said yourself, most people don't really feel they can refuse entry without looking suspicious. That's not free choice. Not really.
Why do we have to be "hiding something" if we would rather not invite them into our home?
You found them pleasant and polite but would you have asked them to come in if they hadn't requested it?
If not then they had no business in your house. (imo).
I have stepped outside, to speak with police on a well check. They never tried to come in, there was no reason to, and as I pulled the door shut when I stepped out, I think they knew I wasn't going to ask them in.
I also got caught in a DEA raid once (guys in the apartment below me were dealing), got tossed up against the wall in my hallway and had a gun pointed in face, once they assertained who I was and where I lived, I was able to go back up to my apartment.
Later they knocked and asked me if they could use my place, my phone and windows, as they were still arresting people pulling up to score, and I was fine with that, (they were in and out of my apartment half the night), because we'd been waiting for something to be done about the downstairs neighbors for months.
So it depends. I don't mind, but I'd like to think I could refuse, without feeling like a criminal. If it's such a free country an all.
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Later they knocked and asked me if they could use my place, my phone and windows, as they were still arresting people pulling up to score, and I was fine with that, (they were in and out of my apartment half the night), because we'd been waiting for something to be done about the downstairs neighbors for months.
Would it be fair to say that perhaps the "nosy neighbor" was concerned about crime in his neighborhood,, and wanted something done about that too?
IMO, where as he saw the door open , I don't think what he thought was going to be a "welfare check" call was made because he thought she had the sniffles. My guess is, (and I may be wrong) because he thought something criminal was going on, and didn't want to be confronted by a criminal, and that's why he didn't check up on her himself.
With all due respect, What's the difference between this so called "nosy neighbor" being concerned about what was going on next door, and you being concerned what was going on with your neighbor down stairs?
BBM. You are absolutely right. In his interview, the neighbor said, "I didn't have a gun, so I called the police". I did not understand whether he did not have a gun on him, or did not own a gun at all, but it is obvious that he was afraid of approaching AJ's house without a gun. Meaning, he might have very possibly thought, something criminal.
Did she have a Will? Why would dad be sole heir if her mom is alive? The articles don’t say one way or anotherMarquis Jefferson argued that he had been denied any involvement in the funeral planning by the mortuary Body had engaged. He said that as his daughter's sole legal heir, the duty of arranging the funeral is his.
Judge halts funeral plans for woman shot at home by officer
Despite the legal action, Carter said Jefferson has a good relationship with his daughter's mother and siblings, who use the last name Carr.
"The Carr family is invited, there is room for them, they are more than welcome, they'll be respected, they'll be treated with dignity and that's what should happen," he said.
The order set a hearing to determine if the restraining order will continue is scheduled for Monday, the order said.
Atatiana Jefferson's father gets a restraining order to delay her funeral and burial - CNN
Did she have a Will? Why would dad be sole heir if her mom is alive? The articles don’t say one way or another