no, not yet... i'm eagerly awaiting though.@Kakidoll .. Have you found any juror interviews yet? I havnt see any yet
no, not yet... i'm eagerly awaiting though.@Kakidoll .. Have you found any juror interviews yet? I havnt see any yet
Wow. The state needs to look at this response and any other juror response in prep for Mark's trial.
I'm curious if LE asked CWW where he thought JRR got the hammer he used on TS. Could CWW not drop his hammer on the floor and instead hand it over to JRR?rsbm
He was found guilty of murder. The jury didn't find him not guilty.
Agreed. I think it boils down to they felt Wayne & Mark were the conspirators and, though culpable, Jimmy was the fall guy. He was guilty, but not as guilty as the others. There really was no proof that he was ever in that house. All they had was Wayne’s word that Jimmy participated in the actual killing. That’s not to say they didn’t believe he probably did, but you can’t convict on “probably”.“We just couldn’t put the hammer in his hand and there was no evidence he was really in the house,” he said.
"Meaning the jury agreed Jimmy Rodgers didn’t deserve to die for his role in the murder of Teresa Sievers. "
Ummmm, jurors are not supposed to consider the sentence. And also they did not have to give him death even if he got first degree.
I got the impression that Taylor's testimony was unbelievable to them. That was the only thing they requested when deliberating. JMOAgreed. I think it boils down to they felt Wayne & Mark were the conspirators and, though culpable, Jimmy was the fall guy. He was guilty, but not as guilty as the others. There really was no proof that he was ever in that house. All they had was Wayne’s word that Jimmy participated in the actual killing. That’s not to say they didn’t believe he probably did, but you can’t convict on “probably”.
This right here is everything - “You have the life of, not just the life that was taken, responsibility to them, but you also have a responsibility because you’re holding someone else’s life in your hands too, so it can’t be taken lightly,” said Roberts.
Throwing out Wayne’s testimony and considering only the physical evidence, I think 2nd Degree Murder was a fair verdict for this jury.
I’m shocked they didn’t interview this jury post-verdict. You can learn so much by talking to them. I’ve thought about it a lot. I assume they felt when the verdict came down as 2nd degree, it was clear they didn’t believe anything Wayne had to say. Guessing they felt that was all they needed to know. I would disagree.Wow. The state needs to look at this response and any other juror response in prep for Mark's trial.
This sets the bar high for the State in Mark's trial and his lawyer must be very pleased with this verdict .I’m shocked they didn’t interview this jury post-verdict. You can learn so much by talking to them. I’ve thought about it a lot. I assume they felt when the verdict came down as 2nd degree, it was clear they didn’t believe anything Wayne had to say. Guessing they felt that was all they needed to know. I would disagree.
My hunch about that read back was Taylor said on direct that in that convo in bed that Jimmy confessed HE killed her. On cross, Fitzgeorge impeached her with her depo where she said she couldn’t be sure if he said it was himself or Wayne. That was pretty big, IMO. Just my hunch.I got the impression that Taylor's testimony was unbelievable to them. That was the only thing they requested when deliberating. JMO
@beach - how come we have so many threads discussing the same subject? Should this one be for "other" stuff or closed - and trial discussion on the Trial Discussion thread? Getting lost on all these threads....
I know. Let me get through tomorrow because I’m a huge college football fan. I’m gonna get away from this case for 24 hours veg all day with queso, burgers and beer with some friends. I’ll get on here Sunday and re-organize this forum.
Go Auburn!! I used live in Auburn, CA. and always rooted for them!
Take your time my friend - and enjoy the game!
Thank you, Beach! We are so lucky to have you!I know. Let me get through tomorrow because I’m a huge college football fan. I’m gonna get away from this case for 24 hours veg all day with queso, burgers and beer with some friends. I’ll get on here Sunday and re-organize this forum.