Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #4

Status
Not open for further replies.
The mention of blood stood out to me, too. I'm not sure what they could be looking for. At least one adult Daybell child was still living at home, so I feel like it would be hard to carry out any sort of attack without them knowing? Then again, with the stuff I've seen in cases over the years, nothing really surprises me anymore. :(

I just got home. 3 pages or so left to read. Didn't Tammy visit her family shortly before she died? I wonder what took place during her absence. I need to check the timeline. JMO
 
Oh No!!
****************************************

BREAKING. Source: Digging could soon be happening at the Daybell residence. More info soon.



Alec Pope on Twitter

That also had me on high alert! But I think it's related to the metal detector. This was his follow up tweet.

About 20 minutes ago investigators took metal detectors, a rake and some sort of probe to a small area outside the Daybell home. They’re back inside now and it appears the ground was never broken.
 
I just got home. 3 pages or so left to read. Didn't Tammy visit her family shortly before she died? I wonder what took place during her absence. I need to check the timeline. JMO

Yes, IIRC it was maybe 7-10 days before? Close enough to her death for her father to remark how healthy and happy she seemed during that visit.
 
I have a good friend that’s an avid metal detector and on occasion LE has requested he and friends come to a crime scene to look for bullets/casings. I imagine a detector would also be helpful if someone buried a gun, knife or heaven forbid a body with some metal (jewelry, belt buckle, bra, zipper). Whatever they are looking for I hope they find it. Unless it’s a body. I hope there isn’t one to find!

Are fillings in teeth too small for a metal detector to pick up? Same for braces? Retainers?

There is so much open space from Arizona to Idaho...I hope that they can be found in the yard....sadly.
 
What's the possibility LE has found and talked to Chad and Lori and what they have told them is causing FBI to search where and how they are searching?
JMO

ETA: or talked to someone who knows. In other words, maybe someone has talked?
 
.
FBI statements:

"We were contacted by Rexburg Police on Nov. 27. I won't get into details but we are offering investigative, forensic and technical assistance in Idaho and Utah. Today, members of our Evidence Response Team are in Rexburg assisting with evidence collection."-Statement from FBI

"Our victim specialist has also been made available to the families of Joshua Vallow and Tylee Ryan," -FBI statement

Source: Eric Grossarth (@ericgrossarth) | Twitter
It’s interesting that this announcement coincided w/search of the Daybell home but no mention of victim specialist available to Tammy’s family. Could be an oversight, but makes me question if the search is directly related to new info received re JJ and Tylee rather than Tammy’s autopsy results.

Even though they didn’t do a complete autopsy on Tammy, I’m sure the coroner would have noticed gunshot or stab wounds. Unless they are searching for chemical canister (as someone upthread suggested) or hypodermic needle I’m afraid they have new reason to believe they’ll find evidence of a completely different crime.
 
I'm unclear about which statements about the children were made by Lori, which by Chad, and which by both together. Different news accounts seem to phrase differently.

Both of those quotes seem bizarre to me, especially the one by Lori. What parent would say their child is dead, even if true, without getting emotional. I have known parents who lost children and they show emotion for years and rarely use the words dead, died, etc. One in particular was practicing LDS so even though he believed his child was in heaven and all that, he still could not speak so callously even years later. Loss of a child is something that has a profound impact for life.

And what would she say this in response to? What question would someone have asked her? "How's Tylee?"

And where are the maternal and paternal grandparents? I can understand they may want to keep quiet. Someone said Lori's parents would protect her even if what we fear is true. I'm in no position to doubt or believe that. But if she really was gone since 2017, a year before her father, wouldn't the grandparents on both sides know?

Now Chad's statement, I can see being more innocent. Someone asks about his new wife...Does she have any children?...No small children...A 17 year old is essentially an adult in many ways, not legally, but she was smart, maybe headed to college soon so he might have say no small kids and it got changed to minor. Who would say minor in a conversation anyway. Does she have any kids might be something asked but responding whether they are a factor in the household is answered possibly with no small children.

Now JJ is not hers. Her husband adopted him but he is gone. Perhaps he just did not want to get into any family drama.

So I really have a hard time figuring out whether to take those statements as bad or neutral. Lori's certainly seems bad. But if she had had a thing to do with her death I doubt she would say she was dead...easier to say she is in college or traveling abroad or something.

Just moo
 
I cannot remember where I read it at the moment, but I'm positive I saw that she was with "other family members" during that time.
What could they possibly find in Chad's house that is connected to the missing kids? The kids likely disappeared before Tammy's death, so they were probably never in the house.

Possible they are looking for whatever chemical killed her, etc. May be an indication of what killed others.
 
Both of those quotes seem bizarre to me, especially the one by Lori. What parent would say their child is dead, even if true, without getting emotional. I have known parents who lost children and they show emotion for years and rarely use the words dead, died, etc. One in particular was practicing LDS so even though he believed his child was in heaven and all that, he still could not speak so callously even years later. Loss of a child is something that has a profound impact for life.

And what would she say this in response to? What question would someone have asked her? "How's Tylee?"

And where are the maternal and paternal grandparents? I can understand they may want to keep quiet. Someone said Lori's parents would protect her even if what we fear is true. I'm in no position to doubt or believe that. But if she really was gone since 2017, a year before her father, wouldn't the grandparents on both sides know?

Now Chad's statement, I can see being more innocent. Someone asks about his new wife...Does she have any children?...No small children...A 17 year old is essentially an adult in many ways, not legally, but she was smart, maybe headed to college soon so he might have say no small kids and it got changed to minor. Who would say minor in a conversation anyway. Does she have any kids might be something asked but responding whether they are a factor in the household is answered possibly with no small children.

Now JJ is not hers. Her husband adopted him but he is gone. Perhaps he just did not want to get into any family drama.

So I really have a hard time figuring out whether to take those statements as bad or neutral. Lori's certainly seems bad. But if she had had a thing to do with her death I doubt she would say she was dead...easier to say she is in college or traveling abroad or something.

Just moo
Is it even a thing to have one party in a married couple adopt a child and not the other?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
177
Guests online
1,674
Total visitors
1,851

Forum statistics

Threads
594,838
Messages
18,013,604
Members
229,530
Latest member
Snoopy70
Back
Top