The wheel and rear seat of the jeep were removed so that shooter could fire out of the back of the jeep. Chad helped by moving the tyre and seat into the storage unit. But he didn't know Lori very well he told LE two months later on 26th Nov, despite having been married to her for 3 weeks by then. The buttslap and tyre storage proves he knew her very well. MOO.
This is Nate from East Idaho News explaining the whole thing about why the tyre and seat are important and who visited the storage, when and with which car. This may be a repost but it is good to explain it all.
He explains that the rear window on that model of jeep doesn't open with the tyre affixed. BB was shot through the rear window so the tyre obviously was not affixed at the time of the murder attempt. Slam dunk.
Thank you for the reply and further explanation,
@tresir2012 . I see why Lori's actions r/t the jeep show conspiracy in the attempted murder of BB, but I still don't see evidence that proves Chad was in on the conspiracy. What proof do we have that he knew why they were moving that tire?
And I would add that these two items were not so large that they could not be stored in the trunk of Lori's car, or in one of the garages of the townhouses they occupied, and they were items (the seat specifically) which very obviously have a proper place - the vehicle from which they were removed. They are not items one has just hanging around in one's property, or that one went out of their way to bring to their new home, and decides to move into long term store, like a family heirloom, or skiing equipment.
Therefore, I would argue, if I were prosecuting, that it is obvious that the people who interrupted their own routines to hurry that day, a significant day, to travel, load, transport and unload into store, (unless they were mentally challenged or in the habit of giving up their time to complete patently unnecessary missions for other people), were aware that the purpose of putting them into storage was to hide incriminating evidence of vehicle modification of a vehicle being used in a crime, more specifically a plan to murder.
Sure he could say he thought these were 'normal' household items that Lori had an urgent need to put into long term storage and he didn't ask questions about why she had an empty storage locker and how they happened to get into her trunk, and couldn't stay there or be put in one of the garages at her disposal, why her brother Alex couldn't help her that day, and why the seat and tire were removed from the Jeep and couldn't be put back, and where the Jeep was. That would be for a jury to decide, based on his credibility, being with Lori on the day the shooting happened and perhaps while she received updates from Alex or Melani, and how palpable his excitement was after successfully shifting car parts around with his mistress, right before his own wife's 'unexpected' demise.
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BBM
Thank you for your well thought-out post,
@Tortoise . You make really great points and a strong argument for conspiracy. What I bolded in your posts address my earlier question about Chad's culpability. I figured that exactly - that Chad would say he "didn't ask questions" and claim that he had no idea of the real reason for moving the tire. He could even say Lori told him some lie and that he bought it. He obviously has zero credibility, but I worry about juries (and about the "beyond reasonable doubt" qualifier).
I am hoping that phone evidence will fill in any missing pieces.
In the context of telling JR being told "I can't move forward with my plan until Tammy's Death", upping her insurance, - BB fits into the same MO. Lori wasn't keeping Chad in the dark. He is in it neck deep. He is no ignorant, bumbling accomplice being manipulated by an evil genius. He was on the phone, conspiring with them. He helped put in storage the back seat and tire of the Jeep that no one used or needed. I can't wait to see his phone records.
Chad lies, telling people Lori is "an empty nester, no minor children" - yet caught on video moving kids bikes and toys, tripping over them at the apt entry. He knows about the kids. He knows they have been disposed of and He. Does. Not. Care. He knows about BB - and BB is an enemy of their plan, as was CV.
Slapping Lori on the butt, getting a quick smile, old email on future tribulation plans with Lori, and one faked from CV to get together. Podcasts together. Marrying two weeks after Tammy is killed. Acting giddy at the Kauai condo when looking for a place. If anyone denies they had a long affair, well denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
Chad is so obviously deeply involved in all the conspiracies, if not a first hand death dealer (Tammy) these things build a case the defense can't effectively fight. And we know they have even more incriminating evidence. It keeps dribbling out. I feel he was part of the conspiracy on CV too...though that one might be tougher.
Chad's days as a free man are quite limited IMO, I doubt he makes it to May 1. The handcuffs are kept warmed up. Good thing he was pro active and got himself an attorney.
You don't have to convince me of his involvement,
@Alpha Bravo !
I absolutely think Chad's been plotting and pulling strings* all long. Like you, I can't wait to see his phone records! But we may not know what the phone records show (or don't show) for a while... Based on the evidence we have available to us now, though, I'm still wondering if they could tie Chad directly to BB's shooting. (Maybe it will come down to credibility, like
@Tortoise said.)
As far as conspiracy to murder, I think you are probably quite right about the MO. But will it be a good move for prosecutors to say the motives for all the murders (and attempted murders) were all part of one big plan
to gather the 144,000 by offing partners for the insurance money and marrying new partners before the world begins to end? What sort of difference could it mean if they suggest Chad really held those beliefs (and they were important enough to kill for)? Or if they suggest instead, that he didn't believe in it at all but used Lori's belief to get what he wanted - a life with just her (with LV's kids and his wife TD out of the way). How will things shake up if charges are combined? Will each murder have to be tried separately? How about the attempted murders? Could Chad and Lori end up co-defendants?
I've said before that I have very little knowledge of law and court procedures, and even less experience. But I know that if the prosecution can't effectively argue their case, it may leave room for doubt. Wasn't that what happened with Casey Anthony?
I'm really curious what our lawyer (and law minded) sleuths have to say about... well, all of this mess. I've tired myself out thinking about it all, tbh, so if it's too much or too soon to be worth replying to - I get it. I'll try and be patient while I wait for the future to get here.
RSBM
This is WS, not a court of law. People are found guilty here a lot.
hahaha! This makes SO MUCH SENSE!
Also, I am pleased as punch that Chad has been identified as being in the storage unit on October 2. It is circumstantial, but if LE can tie the Jeep from Rexburg to Gilbert, Chad’s rolling of the tire and helping to lug the car seat have him an overt act in conspiracy to commit murder.
Lol, I'm taking a recess. I need a nap!
*Nick Schneider might help shed light on the question of string-pulling. (and if you aren't sure what I mean by this, message me!)