Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #37

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Interesting on the witness list there is a botanist specializing in the areas rare plants.

Would they put someone on the list that hasn't led anywhere yet? (IOW hasn't led to usable evidence) ?

ETA - I understand witnesses saying yes that's from our video camera. I mean 'professionals' that do analysis for a living.
 
Really? I hadn't noticed that.

Many rare plant species have an extremely small range, and occur nowhere else. Plant material collected from someone's tires, shoes, etc can sometimes be identified and used to trace where they have been down to a surprisingly small area.

Yes, it's amazing! I can't remember what case it was, but I remember seeing where they were able to solve the case because LE found rare tree pollen in the wheel wells of the perp's car that was identified & traced to a very specific area based on the testimony from this type of expert!
 
Would they put someone on the list that hasn't led anywhere yet? (IOW hasn't led to usable evidence) ?

ETA - I understand witnesses saying yes that's from our video camera. I mean 'professionals' that do analysis for a living.

It would be a wonderful bluff to make against a suspect you wanted to confess and plea deal with.

In terms of game thory its usefulness would last only as long as your reputation to not be full of baloney.
 
Interesting on the witness list there is a botanist specializing in the areas rare plants.
i love how forensic specialists are going to show Tee just how misguided her attempts to destroy, remove and tamper with evidence was. The scope and intricacies of the field is insane, thinking you are clever enough to completely cover your tracks is hubris at its best.
i like comments by Joe Kenda about how very few people get away with murder because of their intellect and planning, that eventually the truth comes out, even if its years later... he said the majority that don't get caught just got lucky.
 
I'll be out most of today. Reading, but likely not posting up much, if at all.

My morning thoughts.

I smell a long list of excuses on the horizon.

Temporary insanity, yeah but's, that's not true, total insanity plea, coercion, blame, YEAH, lot's of blame coming on, character assassination, bringing up all sorts of allegations against others, throwing people under the bus, drug induced frenzy, yada, yada, yada.

wikipedia.....

arguing that the defendant is not responsible for his or her actions due to an episodic or persistent psychiatric disease at the time of the criminal act

defense of mental disorder, defense of mental illness or not criminally responsible by reason of mental disorder employed. Being incapable of distinguishing right from wrong


Or, a plea deal.
 
We certainly are not sure of anything at all.
All we have is a description of the clothes she said he was wearing when he ran away from home.
Those are not the same clothes we saw he was wearing when he entered that vehicle for the last time.
The rest are all social media rumors.
No evidence has been produced by LE and most likely will not be until trial, though maybe arrest affidavits will contain some, certainly not close to all.
Thanks for explaining. I’ve been confused too.
 
Thanks for explaining. I’ve been confused too.
There was speculation that she may have disposed of the clothes he wore on Sunday, she may well have, because they were similar to the description of the clothes she said he wore when running away. But we all saw he wore a track suit legs on his last journey.
The rumor of the soiled clothes found was a social media rumor, there were soiled clothes allegedly found with some rubber gloves but they were never confirmed to be his...
Not a single word uttered by Ls was ever confirmed as truth.

I have no idea when the arrest affidavit will become unsealed or what it will contain.
But, I imagine every word will be accurate and fully backed up with forensic evidence.
Until then, we just need to sit it out and it's not easy.
Thanks Pink.
 
i love how forensic specialists are going to show Tee just how misguided her attempts to destroy, remove and tamper with evidence was. The scope and intricacies of the field is insane, thinking you are clever enough to completely cover your tracks is hubris at its best.
i like comments by Joe Kenda about how very few people get away with murder because of their intellect and planning, that evhe truth comes out, even if its years later... he said the majority that don't get caught just got lucky.
ITA particularly your last paragraph. I think she has simply been lucky so far as to finding his body. I think she has been given way to much credit for this being premeditated or thought out. She simply was lucky as to where she put him.
I think she lost her temper, injured him, neglected him overnight, put him in the truck, he died and in a panic, she disposed of him. And then scrambled to CHA. OCCAM RAZOR. MOO MOO MOO
 
There was speculation that she may have disposed of the clothes he wore on Sunday, she may well have, because they were similar to the description of the clothes she said he wore when running away. But we all saw he wore a track suit legs on his last journey.
The rumor of the soiled clothes found was a social media rumor, there were soiled clothes allegedly found with some rubber gloves but they were never confirmed to be his...
Not a single word uttered by Ls was ever confirmed as truth.

I have no idea when the arrest affidavit will become unsealed or what it will contain.
But, I imagine every word will be accurate and fully backed up with forensic evidence.
Until then, we just need to sit it out and it's not easy.
Thanks Pink.
GM, does anyone sleep around here ;)
 
I, for one, sleep soundly but this case has absolutely filled my waking hours. Far to many hours spent trying to look at the facts through LS's eyes and actions for example. Trying to think outside the box and considering alternatives is making me nuts.
 
Haven't posted in a while because of work but have been following this case very closely. Finally have more time to discuss on here!

I hate even asking this question or typing this out, and this is purely a speculative question. What kind of evidence can be found to prove that one is deceased, without a doubt, yet it isn't a body? I would like to know the possibilities. I know one can be a large amount of blood that can be proven that the person could not survive with the amount of blood loss, but what else? What evidence do you guys think has been found thus far proving that he is no longer with us?

If this is too much of a "touchy" subject I apologize and will be happy to delete. I am merely curious; I personally don't know all that much about forensics, etc.

Of course, wishing for a peace that passes understanding for the family. That Press Release with Landen speaking absolutely broke me and I can't imagine what they are going through. I am confident that little Gannon is watching over them from above and that justice will be served in this case.


I think that's a fair question, albeit a sensitive one, and my thoughts will also be in the "sensitive" realm, so for those who are upset by this sort of thing, stop reading now. The following is JMO, MOO.

Based on the evidence we've heard from TS who reportedly said he was "pooping his pants," I would hazard a guess that she hurt him internally on Sunday -- an internal abdominal injury that affected his bowel and the poop may have been bloody. If LE discovered residue of blood with fecal matter, they might have assumed GS could not survive that sort of injury without medical help.

I also think the bloody board TS mentioned was out in a field could indicate she took him somewhere and beat him severely enough to perhaps leave brain matter on the board, which would also indicate he couldn't have survived his injuries.

There is also a possibility that she went back and moved the body on Monday when she had the rental car. If she did that -- but a cadaver dog hit on the original spot where the body was -- LE could have tested dirt, snow, etc., and might have found GS' DNA there, and I think they can tell if residue, etc., is from a deceased body, because there is already evidence of decomposition, somehow.

Those would be my first three guesses -- but like everyone else here -- they are just guesses based on the evidence we're hearing.

I'd like to hear what others may think.
 
Haven't posted in a while because of work but have been following this case very closely. Finally have more time to discuss on here!

I hate even asking this question or typing this out, and this is purely a speculative question. What kind of evidence can be found to prove that one is deceased, without a doubt, yet it isn't a body? I would like to know the possibilities. I know one can be a large amount of blood that can be proven that the person could not survive with the amount of blood loss, but what else? What evidence do you guys think has been found thus far proving that he is no longer with us?

If this is too much of a "touchy" subject I apologize and will be happy to delete. I am merely curious; I personally don't know all that much about forensics, etc.

Of course, wishing for a peace that passes understanding for the family. That Press Release with Landen speaking absolutely broke me and I can't imagine what they are going through. I am confident that little Gannon is watching over them from above and that justice will be served in this case.

I would venture a guess that LE has 1st hand witness account of LS causing harm to Gannon. That coupled with other evidence of a fatal injury. The lies told by LS that LE will be able to prove. Absence of a viable alternative explanation. There have been many murder convictions in cases where the bodies have never been found.
 
On Sunday, it is thought SM injures Gannon and did not seek medical help.
On Monday, it is thought SM leaves home with the injured Gannon, did not seek medical help and returns home alone.
LE have good reason to believe Gannon is deceased.
There is proof of a serious injury to Gannon, within the home.
The fact SM did not seek medical assistance for Gannon at any point, is criminal.
The video evidence proves Gannon left home alive on Monday, the fact he never returned or received medical help is evidence of SM intentions.
She will be tried and convicted of 1st degree murder without revealing his location but he will be found.
 
Good morning! I have to head into work and with my kids now home for a month my time here on WS is going to Be minimal. So i’m Marking my spot.
Has anyone been able to determine if there is a well at the church or near the church? I’ve already explained why I believe TS May have put Gannon at the Church. But it’s really concerning to me she mentioned Harley D. In a chimney. I think she could have put Gannon in a similar location like a well. To make it look like he fell in.
It’s close to home and near the search area and easy to have missed on a prior search.
Gannon, tho my time on your thread will be cut know you remain in my thoughts and prayers always.
#findgannon.
 
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