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Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 **ARREST** #38
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Good morning everyone. Justice for Gannon.
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Seems like I saw someone recently post something about squirrel road. I had this saved in my notes for some reason:
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@spiritseeker31 - I need to add recent news
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GS- missing child
AS - Dad
LH-mom
LS a/k/a TS - stepmom
RD- neighbor with video showing LS and GS leaving house in red truck
Video of Gannon
Monday, Jan. 27
El Paso County Sheriff's Office asking for help finding missing 11-year-old boy
GS of Colorado Springs left home on foot around 3:15 p.m. to go play at a friend's house, his parents say, but never came home. GS was wearing a blue hoodie, blue jeans and tennis shoes when he went missing. He has brown hair with brown eyes and weighs 90 pounds.
- 6:55 p.m., El Paso County Sheriff's Office dispatch receives call of runaway child, 6600 Block Mandan Drive.
Re: TS making the first 911 call:
During the press conference on Tuesday [February 4th] , Sergeant Deborah Mynatt, answering a question from a reporter, “Are you still saying that [Gannon] went missing between 3 and 4 o’clock [on Monday, January 27th],” stated, “That was the only information related to us, and therefore, the first day that the reporting party called in, that was indicated to us. That was the bit of information we had to work with, there were some other factors and information obtained during that call. We type-coded him as a runaway because of information we received.”
Immediately following this exchange (it starts at around 12:40), another reporter asks, “And that was reported by the stepmother, correct?,” to which Sergeant Mynatt answers, “Yes.”
- 7:32 p.m., GS entered into state and national databases as active runaway
- Last seen between 3 and 4 p.m. on the 27th
- Nothing found on initial search
Sheriff appeals for help finding Colorado Springs boy, 11, missing since Monday
Mynatt said GS did not attend school Monday, but offered no explanation.
First missing flyer (source?) says a google search was made from GS phone - “can my parents find me if my phone is off” and says he was “sick”
( also, neighbor called at 8:53 (need link)
Police arrived and looked in backyard with flashlights - A little after 10 p.m. on Tuesdaythe El Paso County Sheriff's Office showed up at Gannon's home. Law enforcement walked up to the home and appeared to be searching in the backyard with flashlights. The garage door was opened and a car was pulled out. We are waiting for an update from the sheriff's office on why law enforcement was there.
Search continues for missing 11-year-old boy
KRDO NewsChannel 13 / KRDO.com
Dad (AS) finds out he is missing. "We kind of do the street light rule - when the street lights come on or it gets dark, they better be home and it was like maybe 30 minutes past that...started to worry at that point. Then I started texting all
the friends that we know he goes to and nobody had seen him," AS said.
He said GS didn't let them know what friend's house he was going to in the neighborhood and that this was "unlike him so that's why we're obviously really concerned."
Eventually, the police were called.
"Once we went through that whole checklist it's like, you know, where could he be?" AS said.
El Paso County Sheriff's Office searching for missing 11-year-old boy
Authorities continue search for missing boy near Fountain - KRDO
Also on Thursday, a Sheriff's Office patrol car with two deputies was parked for an extended period of time across the street from the Stauch family home, and two other men appearing to be law enforcement officers sat in an unmarked car down the street.
However, the officers left the scene after two men and a woman got into a pickup truck parked in the driveway, and drove away.
Many people on social media are wondering why more information about Gannon isn't available. As KRDO NewsChannel 13 reported Wednesday, it is the policy of the Sheriff's Office to investigate reports of missing children aged 10 and older as runaways, until evidence is found to prove an abduction or kidnapping has taken place.
Map of the area where Gannon was last seen.
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11 year old missing from Colorado Springs, Colorado
Note- GS was not seen at *advertiser censored* & Go convenience:
At one point, deputies thought GS had stopped by the *advertiser censored* & Go convenience store on Mesa Ridge Parkway Monday night, but after the mother reviewed the surveillance, she confirmed it was not her son.
The sheriff's office says they have information that leads them to believe Gannon ran away. They did not elaborate further. 11 News asked EPSO Wednesday if GS is still considered a runaway and was told he is. Law enforcement and family are concerned about GS's wellbeing and are anxious to find him. GS's father is a member of the National Guard, and the Guard is also assisting with search efforts.
MISSING: 11-year-old Colorado boy not seen for 48 hours, prayer gathering Wednesday night
Tuesday, Jan. 28
- 12:29 p.m., case turned over to EPSO investigators
- Detectives conduct interviews, collect surveillance, follow up on additional leads
(Dad arrives home from out of town and GS's mother also flies in from her home Search for missing Colorado Springs boy gets GS's mother arrived in Colorado Springs late Tuesday and spent the night talking to law enforcement, Birkenstock said.
"She doesn't have very much, just what she's been told, that no one has seen GS since Monday," Birkenstock said.
She characterized GS as "a very loving child. Disappearing is totally out of his character; he always has to be with somebody. He's very quiet, very smart."
GS's mother, who lives in South Carolina, and father, who was away for military training at the time of his disappearance, share custody, she said.
Information received during an interview with GS's stepmother and other information lead deputies to believe he's a runaway instead of a missing person, Mynatt said Tuesday, adding that foul play is not suspected.
That's it for Tuesday
Wednesday, Jan. 29
Search continues for missing 11-year-old boy in El Paso County - News report
Search for missing Colorado Springs boy gets help from out-of-state family - great aunt flies into town
Search continues for missing 11-year-old boy in El Paso County
Jessica Barreto on Twitter
Sheriff's Office actively looking for 11-year-old Gannon Stauch, missing over 48 hours - KRDO
Vigil - Vigil to be held Wendnesday night for missing Colorado Springs boy
- Investigation continues - crime lab at the house Law enforcement asks for public's assistance in locating missing Colorado Springs boy
"We covered a ten-mile radius around his home," says Sara Robertson, an organizer of the search effort. "He left his phone at home, so he can't call anyone. He could be cold, hurt or lost. Some of these volunteers took off from work to be here. We just felt that we needed to do something."
A small group of volunteers searched an open area dotted with homeless camps near the intersection of Platte Avenue and Wooten Road in east Colorado Springs, around 10 miles from the main search area. No specific reason was given for that search.
Prayer vigil held for missing 11-year-old in El Paso County - KRDO
Search goes on for missing boy in El Paso County, community holds vigil
Gannon Stauch now considered missing and endangered
The school district told the Colorado Springs Gazette Gannon was absent on Monday. They said counselors would be available at the school.
Police also addressed a rumor that GS’S stepmother, LS, was not fully cooperative with law enforcement. “At this point in time we are conducting multiple interviews and what I can tell you is that each leade we have had is exhausted,” Mihalko said..
He said they are looking at persons of interest, but only meaning that they are people that could give them additional information about GS.
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As of Thursday, he has devoted hours to the search and has covered nearly 50 miles with his drone.“The biggest thing is having other people look at the video, and they tell me to look at a certain time,” Wilson said.
The community not giving up hope in finding missing 11-year-old
Thursday, Jan. 30
- Upgrade case from runaway to endangered missing child
- EPSO requests resources from NCMEC and FBI Crimes Abduction Rapid Deployment Team
FBI now involved in ongoing search for missing 11-year-old Colorado Springs boy
Searching southeastern Colorado Springs: Mother of missing Colorado Springs boy pleads for him to come home
Mynatt said Tuesday that investigators were looking at every part of the timeline step by step.
Family does a plea on tv -
Parents of missing 11-year-old Gannon Stauch plead for public's help in finding son
Press conference
Link to Thurs., Jan. 30th press conference:
FBI now involved in search for missing 11-year-old Gannon Stauch
The Federal Bureau of Investigation is now involved in the ongoing search for a missing/endangered 11-year-oldColorado Springs boy who went missing Monday afternoon, and the task force investigating his disappearance is organizing a team of volunteers to start searching for him.
The search for GS remains an active investigation and the Sheriff's Office said deputies are following up on all potential leads that might help them to find the boy, including continued witness interviews and evidence collection.
Deputies said they have received multiple tips since GS was reported missing. Deputies also said while they are monitoring social media, they are not using it for tips.
At Thursday’s press conference deputies said repeatedly that the main focus of the investigation at this time is to find GS. They also said that while they have been in contact with local trash companies and landfills, there are no searches taking place at those locations at this time.
Authorities say Gannon Stauch 'missing and endangered' after days gone - KRDO
But investigators said they had checked home security cameras in the neighborhood and had not identified images of GS on any of them. Also on Thursday, several people searched through and around a vacant house on Fountain Mesa Road, in case GS was hiding there. No one was found.
Friday - January 31
VIDEO: Stepmom of missing Colorado boy speaks out
LS/TS stood with her back to the camera while she was speaking with CBS 11 on Friday afternoon, in connection with her missing stepson, GS. She was insistent that she would never harm the child, who vanished while under her care.
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LS/TS explained that on Sunday, she took GS and his younger sister hiking at the Garden of the Gods Park. Afterward, they stopped by to eat at Burger King, she said. GS reportedly did not attend school the following day.
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Reportedly, LS/TS did not know which friend’s house the boy went to on Monday, according to AS, who said his wife told him that GS didn’t specify which friend he wanted to visit, NBC 5 reports. The stepmother said she couldn’t comment on the details of the case at this time.
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“My husband’s ex-wife is living in our home,” the woman complained. “I took care of GS for the last two years in our home because his mother didn’t want to do it…OK, and I would never, ever hurt this child.”
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“I was denied, I was told I couldn’t get nothing to drink, I couldn’t go to the bathroom. I mean it was continually that my constitutional rights were violated,” she explained.
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Gannon Stauch: Stepmother speaks out, says her rights were violated after little boy, 11, mysteriously disappears while in her care
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Stepmother said he left to go to a friend's house, however, "But investigators said they had checked home security cameras in the neighborhood and had not identified images of GS on any of them."
Authorities say Gannon Stauch 'missing and endangered' after days gone - KRDO
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As of Friday afternoon, the sheriff's office had received more than 70 tips in the case.
On Thursday, 11 News learned The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC) deployed a consultant from their Team Adam program to help. Team Adam is a free resource provided by the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children to law enforcement. Named after Adam Walsh, the abducted and murdered son of NCMEC co-founders John and Revé Walsh, Team Adam provides rapid, on-site assistance to law enforcement (LE) agencies and families in critical cases of missing children.
The National Guard has also dispatched some of its troops to help. GS's father is a member of the Colorado National Guard.
Civilian-led search parties have combed the area in and around the Lorson Ranch neighborhood, where Gannon's home is located.
"So far, we've had random people going out anywhere they can," said Sara Robertson, one of the volunteers searching for GS Wednesday. "We decided to have more of an organized community around here, so we're all meeting here and heading out in different directions. We have about 40 per group. We have it gridded out checking every neighborhood all the surrounding grassy areas and fields ... looking in holes, in culverts, in ditches, anything we can do."
ENDANGERED: 11-year-old Colorado boy not seen for days, stepmom speaks with 11 News and sheriff's office asks for volunteers
In a statement released Friday, the Sheriff’s Office said its department and its partners are “putting extraordinary efforts to search for GS, preserve and recover any evidence that could lead to his return.”
The Sheriff’s Office listed its partners as:
Our partners in our search and investigation efforts are:
4th Judicial District Attorney's Office, Army (multiple units - volunteers), Army 4th Engineer Battalion (volunteers), Colorado Parks and Wildlife, Colorado Springs Fire Department, Colorado Springs Police Department, Fountain Police Department, Douglas County Sheriff's Office Search and Rescue, El Paso County Public Works, El Paso County Search and Rescue, Emergency Incident Support, the FBI, Flight for Life (searching purposes only), Fremont County Sheriff's Office Search and Rescue, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, National Guard 100th Missile Defense Brigade (volunteers), Pikes Peak Regional Office of Emergency Management, Salvation Army, Verizon Wireless, and VOAD. Updated 2/7/20
- FBI CARD (Child Abduction Rapid Deployment)
- Pikes Peak Regional Office of Emergency Management
- El Paso County Search and Rescue
- National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
- Colorado Springs Police Department
- Fountain Police Department
- Salvation Army
- VOAD – Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster
- Army 4th Engineer Battalion (in 100% non-duty volunteer status)
- National Guard 100th Missile Defense Brigade (in 100% non-duty volunteer status)
- Flight for Life (search purposes only)
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Saturday - February 1
"I just hope they find him alive and they return him home safe," said RD, neighbor.RD, who lives "two houses down," said the minute GS went missing -- he began trying to do everything possible to help."We don't know exactly what happened, so we are looking through our cameras to see if we can pick up anything," said RD. RD said investigators spent several hours at his home, looking through video."They came and were looking through the video to see if our camera caught any movement or anything suspicious," said RD."People in Lorson Ranch, to be mindful of the things on their property, where a child may play or hide," said Jacqueline Kirby with the ECSO."Right now, we don't have a date in mind that it will end," said Kirby.
‘300 citizen volunteers’ ready to help search for Colorado boy, missing 6 days
Sunday February 2
Sheriff's Office Update on Search Efforts for Gannon Stauch
RD - neighbor - can't sleep and views video from his garage camera - decides to view it on his TV. Sees the red truck leaving with GS at 10:14am with LS/TS and then returning at 2:00pm with on LS/TS - need link to interviews - he has done several
(We don't know what occurred and nothing has been released to MSM regarding this timeframe.)
RD calls AS and they view it together, AS breaks down crying mentions he knows LS/TS lied to him and they call LE.
Questions - how did media get notified there was video?
LE asked the MSM not to play the video and some complied and then one did not so they all played it - by this time the media had copies of it from ?
The @EPCSheriff mobile command post is moving. CMoore News® (Carly Moore) on Twitte
CMoore News® (Carly Moore)
@CMoore_News
I’m at the “new command post” according to @EPCSheriff
Looks like everyone is inside this building.CMoore News® (Carly Moore) on Twitter
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The El Paso County Sheriff’s office changes the location of the mobile command post relocating to the Incident Command to the Sheriff’s Office Training Facility across from the jail on Sunday.
They said the move was because their investigation led them to the area.
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Monday February 3 - Searches?
It’s been one week since 11-year-old GS was last seen at his Lorson Ranch home. @EPCSheriff says it’s gotten 134 tips & is continuing to search for the missing boy @KKTV11News
Jenna Middaugh on Twitter
The stepmother said she couldn’t comment on the details of the case at this time. None of his friends in the neighborhood have indicated that they saw GS that day.
Update: Over 130 tips pour in for boy who mysteriously vanished while under stepmother’s care
“UPDATE: Seven days after his disappearance, a Metro Crime Lab team spent hours at 11-year-old GS’s home today. They went in with gloves and tools and left with several evidence bags. Have live reports with exclusive details about a new piece of evidence at 4@5 on @KDVR”
3:49 PM · Feb 3, 2020 [local/MST]
Nicole Fierro on Twitter
El Paso County Sheriff’s Office gets new evidence in search for missing 11-year-old boy
Feb 3, 2020
EL PASO COUNTY, Colo. -- One week after an 11-year-old El Paso County boy went missing, authorities received a new piece of evidence to further the investigation into GS’s disappearance.
FOX31 obtained a copy of this evidence that came from a neighbor's surveillance camera. Authorities have asked us not to describe or show it yet because it’s a part of their investigation. To ensure we don’t compromise anything in the search for GS, we are honoring the sheriff’s office request.
A few doors down, neighbor RD did some investigating on his own.“I couldn’t sleep so I just stayed up and I started looking through [surveillance footage],” RD said, adding, “I looked through on my tablet, then I said, 'Let me look on my TV to be sure.”Police have asked us not to share what he found yet.“This is something the investigators are looking into and it would be part of our investigation,” Kirby said. RD took the footage to GS’s father, who immediately called detectives.“He just broke down crying,” RD said. RD says detectives were moved by the footage too.
“They said this is the break they needed,” RD said.
El Paso County deputies collect evidence from missing boy’s home
(interview with neighbor)
Search intensifies for 11-year-old Colorado boy Gannon Stauch missing for more than a week
However, neighbor RD said he searched through his home surveillance video as the search intensified. RD said the video showed LS/TS and GS get into a red pickup truck in the driveway of their home around 10:15 a.m.About four hours later, the truck returns to the house and LS/TS gets out of the vehicle alone.
Tuesday -February 4 - Searches?
Wednesday February 5 - Family does another plea with all 3 - Mom, Dad and sister - Gannon’s parents Landen Hiott, Albert Stauch, and sister Laina Stauch’s statement.
Thursday February 6- Searches in water at night ENDANGERED: 11-year-old Colorado boy has been missing for more than 1 week; authorities search for evidence in pond
Friday February 7
Sheriff's Office Update on Gannon Stauch Case
February 6, 2020
Sheriff's Office Update on Gannon Stauch Case
february 9
Sheriff's Office Update on Gannon Stauch Case
February 9, 2020
The El Paso County Sheriff's Office investigation continued today in the Lorson Ranch area. Deputies re-canvassed Gannon's neighborhood and spoke with neighbors. We did this in a systematic approach to ensure all residents have been interviewed because some may have been away at the time of the initial canvassing. Those who are in the immediate vicinity of an incident may have useful information to provide.
Sheriff's Office Update on Gannon Stauch Case
Gannon Stauch case: Two weeks since the 11-year-old went missing in Colorado Springs.
Gannon Stauch: What we know two weeks since the 11-year-old went missing from Colorado Springs home
“Tonight I spoke with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office who confirmed teams were out searching today but would not specify which area. They said the search has not extended outside of El Paso County. #FindGannon#GannonStauch” (BAIBM)
7:26 PM · Feb 10, 2020 (local/MST)
Amber Jo Cooper on Twitter
February 11
february 12
Exclusive: Gannon Stauch’s stepmother releases statement about boy’s disappearance
February 21 - Search suspended
"Crews have suspended their efforts in southern Douglas County in the search for missing 11-year-old Gannon Stauch after a week of intense probing, the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office said Friday."
"“Teams remain available as investigative leads direct search efforts,” the sheriff’s office said in a statement."
Crews suspend search for Gannon Stauch in Highway 105 area in southern Douglas County
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Crime lab back at the house
#UPDATE: The Metro Crime Lab is back in Lorson Ranch outside of the home of a missing 11-year-old boy, #GannonStauch. He has been missing for over 3 weeks. @KKTV11News
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2:37 PM · Feb 21, 2020 (local/MST)
Catherine Silver on Twitter
February 22 - Gannon's mother speaks
Mother of missing 11-year-old boy breaks down in tears
February 24 - Gannon missing 4 weeks
Letecia Stauch reportedly attacked a deputy on her way to Colorado for Gannon case
Interviews with LS
Gannon Stauch: Stepmom explains rental car as search for missing Colorado boy continues [EXCLUSIVE PART 2]
Gannon Stauch stepmom reveals where she went the day Colorado boy disappeared [EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW]
Gannon Stauch: Stepmom says bloody board was not her fault. She’s now facing child abuse, murder charges [EXCLUSIVE PART 3]
March 2 - LS arrested on first degree murder and other charges
“Stepmother, Letecia Stauch, arrested on suspicion of murder. #GannonStauch #9news”
9:54 AM · Mar 2, 2020 (local/MST)
Chris Vanderveen on Twitter
Press Conference
Sheriff Bill Elder on Gannon Stauch case
Hearing in SC (extradition)
Letecia Stauch makes first court appearance in South Carolina
March 5
Gannon Stauch: Stepmother accused of killing stepson arrives in Colorado. Court hearing scheduled TODAY
Hearing video
RAW | Letecia Stauch has first Colorado court hearing
Attack on Deputy
Sources: Stepmother charged in death of missing boy with Loris ties attacked deputy
Fired from job (possible trigger?)
Stepmom arrested in Gannon Stauch disappearance was fired from teaching job days before boy went missing
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T shirts sold to help the family
‘Justice for our hero’; Colorado Springs company selling t-shirts to benefit Gannon Stauch’s family
Note - rental house listing- through the windows we can see the fence and also see the layout- Gannon's bedroom was downstairs.
6627 Mandan Drive, Colorado Springs, CO 80925 - SOLD LISTING, MLS # 8973578 | Pink Realty
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I am not sure if you may be referring to a post of mine a few threads back. I had posted a Google street stroll down Squirrel Creek Road, showing the many culverts under the road in which it would have been no difficulty to place his body very quickly. There were no barrier fences. I wondered at the time if her wanderings up north during those four hours were simply to lay a track to pull LE into an area she KNEW she hadn't placed him.
I have always been taken by the fact that she seems absolutely confident that he won't be found.
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The amount of work you've put into pulling this timeline together is nothing short of remarkable.@spiritseeker31 - I need to add recent news
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GS- missing child
AS - Dad
LH-mom
LS a/k/a TS - stepmom
RD- neighbor with video showing LS and GS leaving house in red truck
Video of Gannon
Monday, Jan. 27
El Paso County Sheriff's Office asking for help finding missing 11-year-old boy
GS of Colorado Springs left home on foot around 3:15 p.m. to go play at a friend's house, his parents say, but never came home. GS was wearing a blue hoodie, blue jeans and tennis shoes when he went missing. He has brown hair with brown eyes and weighs 90 pounds.
- 6:55 p.m., El Paso County Sheriff's Office dispatch receives call of runaway child, 6600 Block Mandan Drive.
Re: TS making the first 911 call:
During the press conference on Tuesday [February 4th] , Sergeant Deborah Mynatt, answering a question from a reporter, “Are you still saying that [Gannon] went missing between 3 and 4 o’clock [on Monday, January 27th],” stated, “That was the only information related to us, and therefore, the first day that the reporting party called in, that was indicated to us. That was the bit of information we had to work with, there were some other factors and information obtained during that call. We type-coded him as a runaway because of information we received.”
Immediately following this exchange (it starts at around 12:40), another reporter asks, “And that was reported by the stepmother, correct?,” to which Sergeant Mynatt answers, “Yes.”
- 7:32 p.m., GS entered into state and national databases as active runaway
- Last seen between 3 and 4 p.m. on the 27th
- Nothing found on initial search
Sheriff appeals for help finding Colorado Springs boy, 11, missing since Monday
Mynatt said GS did not attend school Monday, but offered no explanation.
First missing flyer (source?) says a google search was made from GS phone - “can my parents find me if my phone is off” and says he was “sick”
( also, neighbor called at 8:53 (need link)
Police arrived and looked in backyard with flashlights - A little after 10 p.m. on Tuesdaythe El Paso County Sheriff's Office showed up at Gannon's home. Law enforcement walked up to the home and appeared to be searching in the backyard with flashlights. The garage door was opened and a car was pulled out. We are waiting for an update from the sheriff's office on why law enforcement was there.
Search continues for missing 11-year-old boy
KRDO NewsChannel 13 / KRDO.com
Dad (AS) finds out he is missing. "We kind of do the street light rule - when the street lights come on or it gets dark, they better be home and it was like maybe 30 minutes past that...started to worry at that point. Then I started texting all
the friends that we know he goes to and nobody had seen him," AS said.
He said GS didn't let them know what friend's house he was going to in the neighborhood and that this was "unlike him so that's why we're obviously really concerned."
Eventually, the police were called.
"Once we went through that whole checklist it's like, you know, where could he be?" AS said.
El Paso County Sheriff's Office searching for missing 11-year-old boy
Authorities continue search for missing boy near Fountain - KRDO
Also on Thursday, a Sheriff's Office patrol car with two deputies was parked for an extended period of time across the street from the Stauch family home, and two other men appearing to be law enforcement officers sat in an unmarked car down the street.
However, the officers left the scene after two men and a woman got into a pickup truck parked in the driveway, and drove away.
Many people on social media are wondering why more information about Gannon isn't available. As KRDO NewsChannel 13 reported Wednesday, it is the policy of the Sheriff's Office to investigate reports of missing children aged 10 and older as runaways, until evidence is found to prove an abduction or kidnapping has taken place.
Map of the area where Gannon was last seen.
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11 year old missing from Colorado Springs, Colorado
Note- GS was not seen at *advertiser censored* & Go convenience:
At one point, deputies thought GS had stopped by the *advertiser censored* & Go convenience store on Mesa Ridge Parkway Monday night, but after the mother reviewed the surveillance, she confirmed it was not her son.
The sheriff's office says they have information that leads them to believe Gannon ran away. They did not elaborate further. 11 News asked EPSO Wednesday if GS is still considered a runaway and was told he is. Law enforcement and family are concerned about GS's wellbeing and are anxious to find him. GS's father is a member of the National Guard, and the Guard is also assisting with search efforts.
MISSING: 11-year-old Colorado boy not seen for 48 hours, prayer gathering Wednesday night
Tuesday, Jan. 28
- 12:29 p.m., case turned over to EPSO investigators
- Detectives conduct interviews, collect surveillance, follow up on additional leads
(Dad arrives home from out of town and GS's mother also flies in from her home Search for missing Colorado Springs boy gets GS's mother arrived in Colorado Springs late Tuesday and spent the night talking to law enforcement, Birkenstock said.
"She doesn't have very much, just what she's been told, that no one has seen GS since Monday," Birkenstock said.
She characterized GS as "a very loving child. Disappearing is totally out of his character; he always has to be with somebody. He's very quiet, very smart."
GS's mother, who lives in South Carolina, and father, who was away for military training at the time of his disappearance, share custody, she said.
Information received during an interview with GS's stepmother and other information lead deputies to believe he's a runaway instead of a missing person, Mynatt said Tuesday, adding that foul play is not suspected.
That's it for Tuesday
Wednesday, Jan. 29
Search continues for missing 11-year-old boy in El Paso County - News report
Search for missing Colorado Springs boy gets help from out-of-state family - great aunt flies into town
Search continues for missing 11-year-old boy in El Paso County
Jessica Barreto on Twitter
Sheriff's Office actively looking for 11-year-old Gannon Stauch, missing over 48 hours - KRDO
Vigil - Vigil to be held Wendnesday night for missing Colorado Springs boy
- Investigation continues - crime lab at the house Law enforcement asks for public's assistance in locating missing Colorado Springs boy
"We covered a ten-mile radius around his home," says Sara Robertson, an organizer of the search effort. "He left his phone at home, so he can't call anyone. He could be cold, hurt or lost. Some of these volunteers took off from work to be here. We just felt that we needed to do something."
A small group of volunteers searched an open area dotted with homeless camps near the intersection of Platte Avenue and Wooten Road in east Colorado Springs, around 10 miles from the main search area. No specific reason was given for that search.
Prayer vigil held for missing 11-year-old in El Paso County - KRDO
Search goes on for missing boy in El Paso County, community holds vigil
Gannon Stauch now considered missing and endangered
The school district told the Colorado Springs Gazette Gannon was absent on Monday. They said counselors would be available at the school.
Police also addressed a rumor that GS’S stepmother, LS, was not fully cooperative with law enforcement. “At this point in time we are conducting multiple interviews and what I can tell you is that each leade we have had is exhausted,” Mihalko said..
He said they are looking at persons of interest, but only meaning that they are people that could give them additional information about GS.
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As of Thursday, he has devoted hours to the search and has covered nearly 50 miles with his drone.“The biggest thing is having other people look at the video, and they tell me to look at a certain time,” Wilson said.
The community not giving up hope in finding missing 11-year-old
Thursday, Jan. 30
- Upgrade case from runaway to endangered missing child
- EPSO requests resources from NCMEC and FBI Crimes Abduction Rapid Deployment Team
FBI now involved in ongoing search for missing 11-year-old Colorado Springs boy
Searching southeastern Colorado Springs: Mother of missing Colorado Springs boy pleads for him to come home
Mynatt said Tuesday that investigators were looking at every part of the timeline step by step.
Family does a plea on tv -
Parents of missing 11-year-old Gannon Stauch plead for public's help in finding son
Press conference
Link to Thurs., Jan. 30th press conference:
FBI now involved in search for missing 11-year-old Gannon Stauch
The Federal Bureau of Investigation is now involved in the ongoing search for a missing/endangered 11-year-oldColorado Springs boy who went missing Monday afternoon, and the task force investigating his disappearance is organizing a team of volunteers to start searching for him.
The search for GS remains an active investigation and the Sheriff's Office said deputies are following up on all potential leads that might help them to find the boy, including continued witness interviews and evidence collection.
Deputies said they have received multiple tips since GS was reported missing. Deputies also said while they are monitoring social media, they are not using it for tips.
At Thursday’s press conference deputies said repeatedly that the main focus of the investigation at this time is to find GS. They also said that while they have been in contact with local trash companies and landfills, there are no searches taking place at those locations at this time.
Authorities say Gannon Stauch 'missing and endangered' after days gone - KRDO
But investigators said they had checked home security cameras in the neighborhood and had not identified images of GS on any of them. Also on Thursday, several people searched through and around a vacant house on Fountain Mesa Road, in case GS was hiding there. No one was found.
Friday - January 31
VIDEO: Stepmom of missing Colorado boy speaks out
LS/TS stood with her back to the camera while she was speaking with CBS 11 on Friday afternoon, in connection with her missing stepson, GS. She was insistent that she would never harm the child, who vanished while under her care.
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LS/TS explained that on Sunday, she took GS and his younger sister hiking at the Garden of the Gods Park. Afterward, they stopped by to eat at Burger King, she said. GS reportedly did not attend school the following day.
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Reportedly, LS/TS did not know which friend’s house the boy went to on Monday, according to AS, who said his wife told him that GS didn’t specify which friend he wanted to visit, NBC 5 reports. The stepmother said she couldn’t comment on the details of the case at this time.
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“My husband’s ex-wife is living in our home,” the woman complained. “I took care of GS for the last two years in our home because his mother didn’t want to do it…OK, and I would never, ever hurt this child.”
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“I was denied, I was told I couldn’t get nothing to drink, I couldn’t go to the bathroom. I mean it was continually that my constitutional rights were violated,” she explained.
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Gannon Stauch: Stepmother speaks out, says her rights were violated after little boy, 11, mysteriously disappears while in her care
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Stepmother said he left to go to a friend's house, however, "But investigators said they had checked home security cameras in the neighborhood and had not identified images of GS on any of them."
Authorities say Gannon Stauch 'missing and endangered' after days gone - KRDO
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As of Friday afternoon, the sheriff's office had received more than 70 tips in the case.
On Thursday, 11 News learned The National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC) deployed a consultant from their Team Adam program to help. Team Adam is a free resource provided by the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children to law enforcement. Named after Adam Walsh, the abducted and murdered son of NCMEC co-founders John and Revé Walsh, Team Adam provides rapid, on-site assistance to law enforcement (LE) agencies and families in critical cases of missing children.
The National Guard has also dispatched some of its troops to help. GS's father is a member of the Colorado National Guard.
Civilian-led search parties have combed the area in and around the Lorson Ranch neighborhood, where Gannon's home is located.
"So far, we've had random people going out anywhere they can," said Sara Robertson, one of the volunteers searching for GS Wednesday. "We decided to have more of an organized community around here, so we're all meeting here and heading out in different directions. We have about 40 per group. We have it gridded out checking every neighborhood all the surrounding grassy areas and fields ... looking in holes, in culverts, in ditches, anything we can do."
ENDANGERED: 11-year-old Colorado boy not seen for days, stepmom speaks with 11 News and sheriff's office asks for volunteers
In a statement released Friday, the Sheriff’s Office said its department and its partners are “putting extraordinary efforts to search for GS, preserve and recover any evidence that could lead to his return.”
The Sheriff’s Office listed its partners as:
Our partners in our search and investigation efforts are:
4th Judicial District Attorney's Office, Army (multiple units - volunteers), Army 4th Engineer Battalion (volunteers), Colorado Parks and Wildlife, Colorado Springs Fire Department, Colorado Springs Police Department, Fountain Police Department, Douglas County Sheriff's Office Search and Rescue, El Paso County Public Works, El Paso County Search and Rescue, Emergency Incident Support, the FBI, Flight for Life (searching purposes only), Fremont County Sheriff's Office Search and Rescue, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, National Guard 100th Missile Defense Brigade (volunteers), Pikes Peak Regional Office of Emergency Management, Salvation Army, Verizon Wireless, and VOAD. Updated 2/7/20
Experienced search teams working to find missing 11-year-old boy
- FBI CARD (Child Abduction Rapid Deployment)
- Pikes Peak Regional Office of Emergency Management
- El Paso County Search and Rescue
- National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
- Colorado Springs Police Department
- Fountain Police Department
- Salvation Army
- VOAD – Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster
- Army 4th Engineer Battalion (in 100% non-duty volunteer status)
- National Guard 100th Missile Defense Brigade (in 100% non-duty volunteer status)
- Flight for Life (search purposes only)
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Saturday - February 1
"I just hope they find him alive and they return him home safe," said RD, neighbor.RD, who lives "two houses down," said the minute GS went missing -- he began trying to do everything possible to help."We don't know exactly what happened, so we are looking through our cameras to see if we can pick up anything," said RD. RD said investigators spent several hours at his home, looking through video."They came and were looking through the video to see if our camera caught any movement or anything suspicious," said RD."People in Lorson Ranch, to be mindful of the things on their property, where a child may play or hide," said Jacqueline Kirby with the ECSO."Right now, we don't have a date in mind that it will end," said Kirby.
‘300 citizen volunteers’ ready to help search for Colorado boy, missing 6 days
Sunday February 2
Sheriff's Office Update on Search Efforts for Gannon Stauch
RD - neighbor - can't sleep and views video from his garage camera - decides to view it on his TV. Sees the red truck leaving with GS at 10:14am with LS/TS and then returning at 2:00pm with on LS/TS - need link to interviews - he has done several
(We don't know what occurred and nothing has been released to MSM regarding this timeframe.)
RD calls AS and they view it together, AS breaks down crying mentions he knows LS/TS lied to him and they call LE.
Questions - how did media get notified there was video?
LE asked the MSM not to play the video and some complied and then one did not so they all played it - by this time the media had copies of it from ?
The @EPCSheriff mobile command post is moving. CMoore News® (Carly Moore) on Twitte
CMoore News® (Carly Moore)
@CMoore_News
I’m at the “new command post” according to @EPCSheriff
Looks like everyone is inside this building.CMoore News® (Carly Moore) on Twitter
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The El Paso County Sheriff’s office changes the location of the mobile command post relocating to the Incident Command to the Sheriff’s Office Training Facility across from the jail on Sunday.
They said the move was because their investigation led them to the area.
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Monday February 3 - Searches?
It’s been one week since 11-year-old GS was last seen at his Lorson Ranch home. @EPCSheriff says it’s gotten 134 tips & is continuing to search for the missing boy @KKTV11News
Jenna Middaugh on Twitter
The stepmother said she couldn’t comment on the details of the case at this time. None of his friends in the neighborhood have indicated that they saw GS that day.
Update: Over 130 tips pour in for boy who mysteriously vanished while under stepmother’s care
“UPDATE: Seven days after his disappearance, a Metro Crime Lab team spent hours at 11-year-old GS’s home today. They went in with gloves and tools and left with several evidence bags. Have live reports with exclusive details about a new piece of evidence at 4@5 on @KDVR”
3:49 PM · Feb 3, 2020 [local/MST]
Nicole Fierro on Twitter
El Paso County Sheriff’s Office gets new evidence in search for missing 11-year-old boy
Feb 3, 2020
EL PASO COUNTY, Colo. -- One week after an 11-year-old El Paso County boy went missing, authorities received a new piece of evidence to further the investigation into GS’s disappearance.
FOX31 obtained a copy of this evidence that came from a neighbor's surveillance camera. Authorities have asked us not to describe or show it yet because it’s a part of their investigation. To ensure we don’t compromise anything in the search for GS, we are honoring the sheriff’s office request.
A few doors down, neighbor RD did some investigating on his own.“I couldn’t sleep so I just stayed up and I started looking through [surveillance footage],” RD said, adding, “I looked through on my tablet, then I said, 'Let me look on my TV to be sure.”Police have asked us not to share what he found yet.“This is something the investigators are looking into and it would be part of our investigation,” Kirby said. RD took the footage to GS’s father, who immediately called detectives.“He just broke down crying,” RD said. RD says detectives were moved by the footage too.
“They said this is the break they needed,” RD said.
El Paso County deputies collect evidence from missing boy’s home
(interview with neighbor)
Search intensifies for 11-year-old Colorado boy Gannon Stauch missing for more than a week
However, neighbor RD said he searched through his home surveillance video as the search intensified. RD said the video showed LS/TS and GS get into a red pickup truck in the driveway of their home around 10:15 a.m.About four hours later, the truck returns to the house and LS/TS gets out of the vehicle alone.
Tuesday -February 4 - Searches?
Wednesday February 5 - Family does another plea with all 3 - Mom, Dad and sister - Gannon’s parents Landen Hiott, Albert Stauch, and sister Laina Stauch’s statement.
Thursday February 6- Searches in water at night ENDANGERED: 11-year-old Colorado boy has been missing for more than 1 week; authorities search for evidence in pond
Friday February 7
Sheriff's Office Update on Gannon Stauch Case
February 6, 2020
Sheriff's Office Update on Gannon Stauch Case
february 9
Sheriff's Office Update on Gannon Stauch Case
February 9, 2020
The El Paso County Sheriff's Office investigation continued today in the Lorson Ranch area. Deputies re-canvassed Gannon's neighborhood and spoke with neighbors. We did this in a systematic approach to ensure all residents have been interviewed because some may have been away at the time of the initial canvassing. Those who are in the immediate vicinity of an incident may have useful information to provide.
Sheriff's Office Update on Gannon Stauch Case
Gannon Stauch case: Two weeks since the 11-year-old went missing in Colorado Springs.
Gannon Stauch: What we know two weeks since the 11-year-old went missing from Colorado Springs home
“Tonight I spoke with the El Paso County Sheriff's Office who confirmed teams were out searching today but would not specify which area. They said the search has not extended outside of El Paso County. #FindGannon#GannonStauch” (BAIBM)
7:26 PM · Feb 10, 2020 (local/MST)
Amber Jo Cooper on Twitter
February 11
february 12
Exclusive: Gannon Stauch’s stepmother releases statement about boy’s disappearance
February 21 - Search suspended
"Crews have suspended their efforts in southern Douglas County in the search for missing 11-year-old Gannon Stauch after a week of intense probing, the El Paso County Sheriff’s Office said Friday."
"“Teams remain available as investigative leads direct search efforts,” the sheriff’s office said in a statement."
Crews suspend search for Gannon Stauch in Highway 105 area in southern Douglas County
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Crime lab back at the house
#UPDATE: The Metro Crime Lab is back in Lorson Ranch outside of the home of a missing 11-year-old boy, #GannonStauch. He has been missing for over 3 weeks. @KKTV11News
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2:37 PM · Feb 21, 2020 (local/MST)
Catherine Silver on Twitter
February 22 - Gannon's mother speaks
Mother of missing 11-year-old boy breaks down in tears
February 24 - Gannon missing 4 weeks
Letecia Stauch reportedly attacked a deputy on her way to Colorado for Gannon case
Interviews with LS
Gannon Stauch: Stepmom explains rental car as search for missing Colorado boy continues [EXCLUSIVE PART 2]
Gannon Stauch stepmom reveals where she went the day Colorado boy disappeared [EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW]
Gannon Stauch: Stepmom says bloody board was not her fault. She’s now facing child abuse, murder charges [EXCLUSIVE PART 3]
March 2 - LS arrested on first degree murder and other charges
“Stepmother, Letecia Stauch, arrested on suspicion of murder. #GannonStauch #9news”
9:54 AM · Mar 2, 2020 (local/MST)
Chris Vanderveen on Twitter
Press Conference
Sheriff Bill Elder on Gannon Stauch case
Hearing in SC (extradition)
Letecia Stauch makes first court appearance in South Carolina
March 5
Gannon Stauch: Stepmother accused of killing stepson arrives in Colorado. Court hearing scheduled TODAY
Hearing video
RAW | Letecia Stauch has first Colorado court hearing
Attack on Deputy
Sources: Stepmother charged in death of missing boy with Loris ties attacked deputy
Fired from job (possible trigger?)
Stepmom arrested in Gannon Stauch disappearance was fired from teaching job days before boy went missing
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T shirts sold to help the family
‘Justice for our hero’; Colorado Springs company selling t-shirts to benefit Gannon Stauch’s family
Note - rental house listing- through the windows we can see the fence and also see the layout- Gannon's bedroom was downstairs.
6627 Mandan Drive, Colorado Springs, CO 80925 - SOLD LISTING, MLS # 8973578 | Pink Realty
Thank you for doing this, it's greatly appreciated.
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I can’t find the exact article about the downplayed search at an abandoned mall in Stratmoor Security Widefield. I did find these links in my notes. Do they mean anything to anyone?
5628 S US Highway 85 87, Colorado Springs, CO, 80911 - Retail Space For Lease | LoopNet.com
On Monday, the search for him moved about ten miles west to the Stratmoor Valley area. Investigators did not say why.
Search continues for 11-year-old boy in El Paso County
Stauch was the first to report Gannon's disappearance on Jan. 27. She claimed that the boy had gone to a friend's house and never came home. The El Paso County Sheriff's Office determined Gannon was missing and endangered three days later. The Sheriff's Office conducted several searches in the Lorson Ranch area, near Stratmoor Valley, and in southern Douglas County.
During a press conference Monday, law enforcement said that they don't believe Gannon is still alive. His body has yet to be found.Gannon Stauch's stepmother makes first court appearance in South Carolina - KRDO
On Monday morning, search crews were seen on horses riding along Fountain Creek in the Stratmoor Valley area.
"The investigation determined we should probably relocate to bring it from a more broad area to a more localized smaller area," said Jacqueline Kirby, media relations manager for the Sheriff's office. "We felt it was prudent to be where we were actually searching."
Kirby could not confirm if there have been other sightings since Monday.
"We're going to go where the leads and the tips take us," Kirby said.
Over the weekend, crews searched a five-mile radius around the Stauch residence in Lorson Ranch in El Paso County.
Search for 11-year-old Gannon Stauch moves west toward Stratmoor Valley area - KRDO
eta: there’s a photo gallery with the first link of some of the businesses
5628 S US Highway 85 87, Colorado Springs, CO, 80911 - Retail Space For Lease | LoopNet.com
On Monday, the search for him moved about ten miles west to the Stratmoor Valley area. Investigators did not say why.
Search continues for 11-year-old boy in El Paso County
Stauch was the first to report Gannon's disappearance on Jan. 27. She claimed that the boy had gone to a friend's house and never came home. The El Paso County Sheriff's Office determined Gannon was missing and endangered three days later. The Sheriff's Office conducted several searches in the Lorson Ranch area, near Stratmoor Valley, and in southern Douglas County.
During a press conference Monday, law enforcement said that they don't believe Gannon is still alive. His body has yet to be found.Gannon Stauch's stepmother makes first court appearance in South Carolina - KRDO
On Monday morning, search crews were seen on horses riding along Fountain Creek in the Stratmoor Valley area.
"The investigation determined we should probably relocate to bring it from a more broad area to a more localized smaller area," said Jacqueline Kirby, media relations manager for the Sheriff's office. "We felt it was prudent to be where we were actually searching."
Kirby could not confirm if there have been other sightings since Monday.
"We're going to go where the leads and the tips take us," Kirby said.
Over the weekend, crews searched a five-mile radius around the Stauch residence in Lorson Ranch in El Paso County.
Search for 11-year-old Gannon Stauch moves west toward Stratmoor Valley area - KRDO
eta: there’s a photo gallery with the first link of some of the businesses
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This area, where they originally 'relocated' their search headquarters, is near the Sheriff's office, Jail, etc. If I recall, they actually searched Fountain Creek. I always thought the surrounding area would be a great place to hide/dispose of a body.
That East Las Vegas Avenue is loaded with industrial sites, just loaded with them. Including Colorado Industrial Recycling Admin., which would be a great place to start with a google earth view of the surrounding region.
I scoped all over that area, early on.
And if you go west of there, in to the mountain regions, the possibility of hidey holes is staggering.
This is why, IMO, useless tips are just that.....useless.
Solid information is what LE needs. MOO
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I am a nurse in PA and we are seeing it here too. It's sad all the way around. The parents taking the meds have personality changes because they don't need the meds and the children are acting out because they are not getting the meds they need. It's a recipe for disaster IMO.
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Thanks everyone for keeping us all updated. Ive been mainly lurking and hoping they find him soon.
I am in the camp where I think she probably did not drive too awful far. I think maybe 10-15 miles or so at most. Maybe shorter distance like this part.
"Over the weekend, crews searched a five-mile radius around the Stauch residence in Lorson Ranch in El Paso County."
Search for 11-year-old Gannon Stauch moves west toward Stratmoor Valley area - KRDO
What I think she did was "set up" the scene where she tried to make it look like he either fell off a cliff by accident or fell into some water and drowned. I think she was hoping he would be found and the way she set up the scene was to try to make it look like he accidentally killed himself.
The reason I think that is she was saying in that interview how people would apologize to her. That makes me think she set up the scene as an accident. I am thinking either water or cliff are the only things I can think of where she could fake an accident scene after she claimed he ran away.
No matter what, I hope the searchers find him soon.
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What do you think about possible witnesses to this crime that have prior records, committed a crime not yet discovered or are afraid they are/were unknowingly complicit? Would some be fearful to call in a tip? Are fingerprints taken from witnesses? I realize these might be dumb questions but I’m way out of my league in the legal element.
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Well that is terrifying.
I am wondering how many times she took pictures with Gannon (as a show of how great she is IMO) Like was it a regular thing for her to "document" how much "fun" they were having for did she only start that right before he went missing.
Good question. If she was already planning things when she took the pictures of Gannon on their hike, I have to wonder if maybe she had planned on "throwing him off a cliff" that very day and try to say it was an accident on that day. Maybe she could never get the other child to look away long enough to where she could push him off without being seen by the other child. (cant remember if 1 or 2 other kids were with them)
Im really hung up on the "fake accident" theory.
Come to think of it, when she was trying to claim he ran away, then she really would not want to drive him too awful far away because a child can only get so far on foot. So maybe closer to home about 3-5-7 mile radius would be about right.
I may have to try to find time to google map search the area.
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For me, and it's MOO, we know very little about TS and her associations. If she had but one nefarious accomplice, an acquaintance, someone, anyone, that assisted her, LE has kept absolutely mum regarding it. (the numerous out of state locations on that witness list are intriguing to me)
She may have deposited a trash bag somewhere, or a suitcase, or a carry bag of some sort, at an acquaintance's place of business, but I think it doubtful. I do speculate, if she hid Gannon's body, that she placed it in a container so as to make moving it more manageable.
So for me, to review, I think TS murdered Gannon. She did so willfully. It was no accident. I think he either died in the truck, or at a specific location unknown to us. If in the truck, she deposited his body somewhere unknown to us. If at a specific location (more likely IMO) she moved his body away from that location, OR she went back, retrieved his body, and placed it elsewhere.
I think Gannons body is....
1. gone forever, never to be found
2. in an easily accessible location, the likes of which, are almost unlimited in the region
3. out of state
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imo LS activities the evening GS went “missing”, what were the children in the home a witness to.... it’s key to solving the puzzle. LS took risks, we know of just one, the big bold lie in GS phone. I, for one, would like to know who she called first, once GS went missing. Logic says husband, short discussion ensued, decision to call 911, visit friends and neighbors frantically asking to review ring cameras, call anyone they know in neighborhood, and search home again very carefully.
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This is not true. It does have the same potential to cause rage in certain people. There are people who open the capsules and crush the contents to bypass the time release. It may surprise you to learn what people do to get high. They also have a tendency to take way more than what a normal person would take. Stimulant medications have the potential to cause psychosis in certain people as well.
I agree that there was more to it than TS possibly taking a stimulant. Considering the fact that she apparently had issues with her temper in the past based on previous arrests in her younger years. Imagine someone who is quick to anger taking a stimulant. It would exacerbate any pre-existing mental health issue and just add fuel to the fire IMO. Plus there is something about her eyes in my professional opinion that leads me to question possible drug use.
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I said the same thing on like thread 10. If she wanted to keep to the runaway story she had to of put him somewhere close to make it look like he did runaway and got caught in the elements and passed away. I thought they would find him in the field by his home when they were searching but didn't. I still think he is out there
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