Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #43

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Hi tresir2012:

This is an important report re: China that I haven’t gotten through yet, but it’s on the list of very important reports imo:

Report of the WHO-China Joint Mission on Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
16-24 February 2020

https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...na-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

Thanks for linking that.

One section of that report is pasted below:-

"Zoonotic origins COVID-19 is a zoonotic virus. From phylogenetics analyses undertaken with available full genome sequences, bats appear to be the reservoir of COVID-19 virus, but the intermediate host(s) has not yet been identified. However, three important areas of work are already underway in China to inform our understanding of the zoonotic origin of this outbreak. These include early investigations of cases with symptom onset in Wuhan throughout December 2019, environmental sampling from the Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market and other area markets, and the collection of detailed records on the source and type of wildlife species sold at the Huanan market and the destination of those animals after the market was closed. "

Still reading.......
 
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Spam was almost gone but other than those items they was plenty for everyone.

That's my shopping report from Sacramento California.

Are there a lot of Pacific Islanders and Hawaiians in Sacramento?

They are known to love spam to the extent that the US military had to procure a special supply when reserve units from Guam and American Samoa were sent to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Likewise, a casino that I visited in Las Vegas had mostly Hawaiian employees and tour groups- Spam was prominently on the menu under "Hawaiian Favorites" at the fast food type cafe.
 
Went to the grocery store last. Not very busy at all. Everything went well until checkout. An elderly man (okay, older than me) was ahead of me and we were the required 6 feet apart from everyone. A store employee blitzed between us saying "Excuse me". I was taken aback and didn't think fast enough to say anything. A minute later some 30ish female customer came strutting along and breezed right through the space between the elderly man and myself. As she was about 12 feet past, I very loudly said "Do you not know what the hell 6 feet is?" She didn't turn around but I saw her head flip to the side as if she may have heard something that related to her.

Just sheesh !!
 
Fantastic idea.

In Australia:

State weighs housing front-line healthcare workers in hotels

Benjamin Preiss and Zach Hope
55 mins ago
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Doctors and nurses on the front line of the coronavirus pandemic would be housed in hotels or other accommodation to protect their families and prevent spreading the disease, under a plan being considered by the state government.


The government confirmed it is actively considering the plan and is examining how it would fund accommodation for front-line workers.
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The move to accommodate healthcare workers separately comes after 100 staff were forced to self-isolate at The Alfred hospital following a COVID-19 outbreak.

Healthcare workers at three other hospitals have also gone into self-isolation after being exposed to the virus.

Federal Labor has described the living arrangements of many health professionals as "untenable" and written to the federal government expressing its concerns.

The association representing doctors also wants healthcare professionals to be able to stay away from their families to allay fears among the medical profession - some of whom are already living apart from their households due to concerns about vulnerable family members.
...
 
Thanks for limking that.

One section of that report is pasted below:-

"Zoonotic origins COVID-19 is a zoonotic virus. From phylogenetics analyses undertaken with available full genome sequences, bats appear to be the reservoir of COVID-19 virus, but the intermediate host(s) has not yet been identified. However, three important areas of work are already underway in China to inform our understanding of the zoonotic origin of this outbreak. These include early investigations of cases with symptom onset in Wuhan throughout December 2019, environmental sampling from the Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market and other area markets, and the collection of detailed records on the source and type of wildlife species sold at the Huanan market and the destination of those animals after the market was closed. "

Still reading.......

Yes, I’m also not sure if the report addresses that there WAS CV present on surfaces there. Environmental sampling and tests were positive per Dr. Sylvie, WHO.

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I would also like to note there was a man who tested positive in Japan who came in from China and visited a different seafood market, and not that one. I just saw that snuck in another article somewhere, I’m pretty sure I noted it.

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I have 4 WHO conferences to watch and anxiously waiting to hear if Dr. Mike and/or Maria address more about their source investigations and findings.

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iMO Moooooo I’m not sure it’s just one source at that market. Dr. Mike even said in the very early days it’s possible there are other/more than one source.

Also, @tresir2012 , check this out:

“Coronavirus: China’s first confirmed Covid-19 case traced back to November 17
  • Government records suggest first person infected with new disease may have been a Hubei resident aged 55, but ‘patient zero’ has yet to be confirmed”
[...]

“Scientists are now keen to identify the so-called patient zero, which could help them to trace the source of the coronavirus, which is generally thought to have jumped to humans from a wild animal, possibly a bat.”


https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3074991/coronavirus-chinas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back
 
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I have a mini refrigerator, like the kind kids keep in dorm rooms, that I use just to store my garden seeds. I successfully sprouted zucchini seeds from an 11 year old packet of seeds this week. :)

That is an awesome idea! I have a mini dorm fridge I'm not using right now. I started a whole 50 cell tray of okra the other day with old seed. Now I have at least 50 okra plants. That was a lot more than I was expecting! LOL
 
Are there a lot of Pacific Islanders and Hawaiians in Sacramento?

They are known to love spam to the extent that the US military had to procure a special supply when reserve units from Guam and American Samoa were sent to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Likewise, a casino that I visited in Las Vegas had mostly Hawaiian employees and tour groups- Spam was prominently on the menu under "Hawaiian Favorites" at the fast food type cafe.
I don't think there are.
 
I have been going to the drive up for Starbucks. I wipe the cup down with wipes and I use hand sanitizer in my car. I always try to have the right amount and don't expect change back. OK thought I was doing pretty good. This morning I went at 8:30 AM and the store was closed with no employees and no signs why it was close. I am sitting at home in a slight panic that someone there may have been diagnosed. I did go to another Starbucks and it was open for drive ups. Bad Raja, bad Raja.
 
Went to the grocery store last. Not very busy at all. Everything went well until checkout. An elderly man (okay, older than me) was ahead of me and we were the required 6 feet apart from everyone. A store employee blitzed between us saying "Excuse me". I was taken aback and didn't think fast enough to say anything. A minute later some 30ish female customer came strutting along and breezed right through the space between the elderly man and myself. As she was about 12 feet past, I very loudly said "Do you not know what the hell 6 feet is?" She didn't turn around but I saw her head flip to the side as if she may have heard something that related to her.

Just sheesh !!
When I was finished checking out the lady in front of me wasn't done bagging her stuff. I was going to wait until she finished but she said "It's okay, come through" so I did.

I had my respirator on so I didn't spew anything on her so I guess it was okay.
 
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Yale study: Connecticut’s first coronavirus cases have roots in Washington state, not foreign countries

[Edited for brevity]

A new study by researchers at the Yale School of Public Health shows that the vast majority of Connecticut’s first coronavirus cases have roots in Washington state, and that the danger of domestic travel has exceeded the danger of international travel since early- or mid-March.

“There’s so much transmission happening within the United States now that we really need to focus on what is happening within our own borders,” said lead researcher Nathan Grubaugh.

The study does not challenge the initial origin of the coronavirus — which is believed to have originated in Wuhan, China — but rather the virus’ route to Connecticut.

The study also points to a need for local responses to the virus, as opposed to international travel bans or restrictions. While officials were focused on monitoring international travel, the study suggests it was actually domestic travel that brought the virus to the state.

The researchers, led by Grubaugh, looked at the genetic code of the viruses in nine of Connecticut’s first cases. They then constructed what Grubaugh said is essentially a family tree, backtrack the viruses’ lineage.

Grubaugh said he and his team found that seven of the nine cases were “very similar” to viruses sequenced in Washington state. Although there’s some data still missing at this point, Grubaugh said it appears that the virus didn’t travel directly from Washington state, but instead first spread to states such as Massachusetts, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania, before journeying into Connecticut.

Grubaugh’s team looked at travelers flying into Bradley, Boston Logan and John F. Kennedy airports, from five hot-spot countries and five hot-spot states. With that data, tempered by how accurately those hot spots were measuring their own outbreaks, the researchers created a “risk estimate” for how many infected people could have been flying into Connecticut.

And they found that, by early- to mid-March, “the risk shifted from international importations to domestic,” Grubaugh said. The research team believes that shift would be even more apparent if they had also accounted for train and car travel.

In follow-up studies, the researchers are looking at more recent coronavirus cases. So far, Grubaugh said, many of those cases appear to have roots in New York state.

“Now we’re seeing new ones that look to be introductions coming from New York,” Grubaugh said. “We’re getting that spillover coming in.”

The study’s implications bolster the argument for a domestic — not international — response to the coronavirus.

“We really need to focus on local surveillance and testing and isolating patients who are infected,” he said. “It needs to be a localized response."

This story has been updated.

Author: Emily Brindley can be reached at ebrindley@courant.com.
 
Thank you for this article. I’ve been meaning to check in on Santa Clara County.

@MJPeony how are you?

From the above link / BBM;

"”We estimate that shelter-in-place would have to remain in place for about five months or more in order to actually completely suppress the epidemic," said Stanford biology professor Erin Mordecai.

back out into the world a little more," said Mordecai.”

Coronavirus: Shelter in place for another 5 months? Here's what Stanford researchers are projecting and why

• As I stated earlier, a “second wave” / additional waves is a huge concern of mine right now. But we have to get through the first wave. This is all so overwhelming to put it mildly.

Yeah, my mind is already thinking about the second wave.

I think 5 months more of social isolation is just not possible economically.

People need jobs, and in this country their jobs are linked to their health insurance and their ability to fight this horrible illness and remain financially solvent.

How are hospitals going to be able to pay their staff, buy equipment and medications, and provide care if a huge amount of the population does not have insurance paying the hospitals? Same for doctors offices, surgery centers, nursing homes, group care facilities? How long can they go before there just isn't enough money to pay the salaries and buy the supplies?

During the Great Depression, the WPA put able bodied men and women out there building infrastructure, which we all depend on, 90 years later ! But you can't have people on work crews if they have to be 6 feet apart and wear PPE, can we?

This is what really gives me the night terrors
 
Ok this might be a totally stupid question, please don’t laugh at me.

We know that there are studies re: aerosol droplets that can remain in the air for up to three hours...

Well, what if there is surface contamination on an object in your home. One doctor used the analogy of it being like “glitter” when you wipe a grocery item down. You have to get every spot. Anyway, you’ll be fine if you don’t touch that then touch your face, BUT (here comes the possibly stupid question):

Let me rewind to say I have items I have wiped down sitting in my entry way, as I’m giving them more “time” to rest as advised in some articles.

However, last night I turned the heater on then jumped up and said “OH NO! What if it’s on an item still and now the air is circulating this through the heating air vents...”

If it’s on a surface already, as in droplet has already fallen, can it still get circulated in the air? Tia.

Also, how long does it live on concrete, I keep meaning to google bc I’m wondering about sidewalks and my doggie’s paws. I don’t want it tracked in the house that way so right now doggie gets carried in straight to bathtub to wash his paws lol.
 
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France

France's coronavirus death toll slows to 441 the day after a record 588 were killed by the disease as the total deaths across Europe hits 45,000


France's Director General of Health Jerome Salomon said the death toll in hospitals and nursing homes since the start of the outbreak now stood at 7,560.

The slowdown follows grim news yesterday that the number of confirmed Covid-19 cases in hospitals had risen by 5,233 - 9 percent.

Mr Salomon told a press briefing that there were 17,827 confirmed or suspected cases in nursing homes compared to 14,638 on Thursday.

France's coronavirus death toll slows to 441 the day after a record 588 were killed by the disease | Daily Mail Online

I really hope the crisis improves in France they have also had a terrible time. The hospitals are struggling to cope especially in Paris.
 
Ok this might be a totally stupid question, please don’t laugh at me.

We know that there are studies re: aerosol droplets that can remain in the air for up to three hours...

Well, what if there is surface contamination on an object in your home. One doctor used the analogy of it being like “glitter” when you wipe a grocery item down. You have to get every spot. Anyway, you’ll be fine if you don’t touch that then touch your face, BUT (here comes the possibly stupid question):

Let me rewind to say I have items I have wiped down sitting in my entry way, as I’m giving them more “time” to rest as advised in some articles.

However, last night I turned the heater on then jumped up and said “OH NO! What if it’s on an item still and now the air is circulating this through the heating air vents...”

If it’s on a surface already, as in droplet has already fallen, can it still get circulated in the air? Tia.

Also, how long does it live on concrete, I keep meaning to google bc I’m wondering about sidewalks and my doggies paws. I don’t want it tracked in the house that way so right now they go straight to barn to wash their paws lol.

We would never laugh at you @margarita25 I wish I had answers to your questions. I hope you are doing ok.
 
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