CA CA - Kristin Smart, 19, San Luis Obispo, 25 May 1996

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BREAKER said:
Hope you don't take offense to your defense.

You still have Law Enforcement digging on a random hill without a single lead so who is the problem?

Your presumption that the cadaver dogs were able to come up with a hit shows the "only evidence" is in his room is a joke and a speculation drummed up by using the media to sensationalize the case.

You telling me that they smelled something in his room and that proves that she was even there?

Then you are telling me that there was no bloody crime scene, but the dogs told you that she was murdered by him in his room?

Then you are telling me that the woman being 6'1" tall, was picked up and moved, and then buried in the mother's backyard some miles away in another town nearby?

All within a short time period without anyone seeing anything at the school campus, or in the neighborhood near the mother's house?

And this is your logic?

This is nothing but a suspicion that was drummed up and turned into a popular media sensation......who invented the theory that it was in his mother's backyard?

How many people are all threatening the suspect together in a glee club without spending a single second out searching for her?

Also Ozoner, the suspicion that I have raised to the family is that she was out hiking a trail and was murdered. They even said that she was active, and that it was one of their suspicions as well, seeing that they could not find anything on the campus, it makes a lot of sense that she would be off campus somewhere nearby.
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Who said anything about blood? Most sexual homicides involve manual strangulation.
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You're free to believe whatever you wish, but your comments about secret codes are s
bizarre. Frankly, they read like the ramblings of a schizophrenic.
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LE has their guy. They could have prosecuted Paul Flores years ago, but they were hoping that Kristin's body
would be found because that would have made it easier to prove felony murder. I believe that they'll be able to get a felony murder conviction anyway, with sexual assault as an aggravating factor. They'll be able to bring in testimony about Paul Flores's behavior around women in order to show a pattern.
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I also think that they'll be able to get the death penalty. You don't have to agree; time will tell.
 
These were kids in school and one was drunk AF, passed out on the lawn. 3 people helped her home. One walked a bit further with her and she split. They say there is no proof that she made it to her dorm that night, but they also assert that she could have just gone hiking. So they don't know what happened and agree that she is nowhere on campus after searching everywhere.

Another thing is the kid was never known to be violent at all in school so the motive that he was raping her in a "sexual homicide" is your own fantasy IMO. There is no evidence seen so far that says he was raping her. To then go off the tangent itself and propose that his "behavior around women" shows a pattern? He was a kid in school that is being accused of killing someone. Have any of these women come forward to say that they were abducted and murdered as well? Was there a pattern to this with the accusers saying that he even TRIED to abduct them? No there isn't.

Don't talk about sanity when you fantasize about these events without a scent of proof
 
BREAKER said:
These were kids in school and one was drunk AF, passed out on the lawn. 3 people helped her home. One walked a bit further with her and she split. They say there is no proof that she made it to her dorm that night, but they also assert that she could have just gone hiking. So they don't know what happened and agree that she is nowhere on campus after searching everywhere.

Another thing is the kid was never known to be violent at all in school so the motive that he was raping her in a "sexual homicide" is your own fantasy IMO. There is no evidence seen so far that says he was raping her. To then go off the tangent itself and propose that his "behavior around women" shows a pattern? He was a kid in school that is being accused of killing someone. Have any of these women come forward to say that they were abducted and murdered as well? Was there a pattern to this with the accusers saying that he even TRIED to abduct them? No there isn't.

Don't talk about sanity when you fantasize about these events without a scent of proof
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There is a history of violence with Paul throughout school from a young age, and plenty of women have come forward accusing Paul of sexual assault
 
BREAKER said:
These were kids in school and one was drunk AF, passed out on the lawn. 3 people helped her home. One walked a bit further with her and she split. They say there is no proof that she made it to her dorm that night, but they also assert that she could have just gone hiking. So they don't know what happened and agree that she is nowhere on campus after searching everywhere.

Another thing is the kid was never known to be violent at all in school so the motive that he was raping her in a "sexual homicide" is your own fantasy IMO. There is no evidence seen so far that says he was raping her. To then go off the tangent itself and propose that his "behavior around women" shows a pattern? He was a kid in school that is being accused of killing someone. Have any of these women come forward to say that they were abducted and murdered as well? Was there a pattern to this with the accusers saying that he even TRIED to abduct them? No there isn't.

Don't talk about sanity when you fantasize about these events without a scent of proof
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So your “logical” theory is that a girl so drunk she couldn’t stand without help...went on a hike? I can’t even understand where you are going with this. Do you think she made it back to her room? Where is the roommates key? She was last seen wearing shorts and a crop top. Do you think she went hiking in those? That a girl too drunk to walk wanted to scale a mountain in those? Or do you think no one noticed her clothes were back in the room or her shoes had changed and that she had rearranged her bed to make it look like it was before she left? And that she has a liver of a god and doesn’t feel hungover in the slightest?

What do you make of Paul having a black eye the weekend of her disappearance? And changing the story about how he got it multiple times?

Also, not having a criminal background or having a history of violence does not mean you can’t kill. I implore you to look at...well, I can’t even begin to think of all the examples of murders committed by people with no prior offenses or history of violence. Just earlier this month a sweet young girl named Faye was murdered by her neighbor. His only conviction was a traffic violation of failing to dim his lights. Before that, nothing. If everyone needed a prior conviction before being a suspect...well that’s just ludicrous
 
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So your “logical” theory is that a girl so drunk she couldn’t stand without help...went on a hike? I can’t even understand where you are going with this. Do you think she made it back to her room? Where is the roommates key? She was last seen wearing shorts and a crop top. Do you think she went hiking in those? That a girl too drunk to walk wanted to scale a mountain in those? Or do you think no one noticed her clothes were back in the room or her shoes had changed and that she had rearranged her bed to make it look like it was before she left? And that she has a liver of a god and doesn’t feel hungover in the slightest?

What do you make of Paul having a black eye the weekend of her disappearance? And changing the story about how he got it multiple times?

Also, not having a criminal background or having a history of violence does not mean you can’t kill. I implore you to look at...well, I can’t even begin to think of all the examples of murders committed by people with no prior offenses or history of violence. Just earlier this month a sweet young girl named Faye was murdered by her neighbor. His only conviction was a traffic violation of failing to dim his lights. Before that, nothing. If everyone needed a prior conviction before being a suspect...well that’s just ludicrous
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It was even proposed by the police and FBI that she was possibly hiking or camping as it was the holiday weekend there. I think she must have made it to her room, as she was conscious enough to convince the others to leave her alone with Paul, and they didn't really have the need to walk her all the way back. All I said was that she was hammered and passed out napping on the lawn en route to her own dorm so she was obviously motivated to move on her own and wasn't so trashed she had to be carried from the party there. She also could have met someone at the party that followed her home to surprise her there, or even someone she met having planned to go out with her on a hike, as she was a known active hiker and loved the outdoors....nobody knows the details but is lost arguing about how some freaked out kid is reacting to all of these questions. They also seem to be pretty arcane in their questions and answers in the interviews about his black eye and his alibi so much that he went and got a lawyer seeing them trying to frame him and then went dark on the questions. To explain the black eye? Maybe he told the people that saw him a story so not to seem like an idiot having smashed it on the wheel of his car, and when he talked to the cops he told them just that.

I said that the number of accusations thrown at the kid are based on the creation of the image of a "monster" and other exaggerations about events from the times that came about YEARS later....and the use of that to claim he was a patterned freak his whole life, even when he walked her halfway home, is one of these suspicions generated by illogical use of context of his actions throughout a timeline. How can he be a patterned killer if there was no other threat made to the so called victims of his other accusations. It seems more fitting that the beat those charges as well due to his evident innocence in the case and that there has been a continued railroading driving a public mob on the guy.

Think about all the times these sites are used to generate a movement that ends up being disproven or proven otherwise ? There is no "I told you so" online, and no accountability for people that sit there and speculate about someone that they have never met.
 
BREAKER said:
It was even proposed by the police and FBI that she was possibly hiking or camping as it was the holiday weekend there. I think she must have made it to her room, as she was conscious enough to convince the others to leave her alone with Paul, and they didn't really have the need to walk her all the way back. All I said was that she was hammered and passed out napping on the lawn en route to her own dorm so she was obviously motivated to move on her own and wasn't so trashed she had to be carried from the party there. She also could have met someone at the party that followed her home to surprise her there, or even someone she met having planned to go out with her on a hike, as she was a known active hiker and loved the outdoors....nobody knows the details but is lost arguing about how some freaked out kid is reacting to all of these questions. They also seem to be pretty arcane in their questions and answers in the interviews about his black eye and his alibi so much that he went and got a lawyer seeing them trying to frame him and then went dark on the questions. To explain the black eye? Maybe he told the people that saw him a story so not to seem like an idiot having smashed it on the wheel of his car, and when he talked to the cops he told them just that.

I said that the number of accusations thrown at the kid are based on the creation of the image of a "monster" and other exaggerations about events from the times that came about YEARS later....and the use of that to claim he was a patterned freak his whole life, even when he walked her halfway home, is one of these suspicions generated by illogical use of context of his actions throughout a timeline. How can he be a patterned killer if there was no other threat made to the so called victims of his other accusations. It seems more fitting that the beat those charges as well due to his evident innocence in the case and that there has been a continued railroading driving a public mob on the guy.

Think about all the times these sites are used to generate a movement that ends up being disproven or proven otherwise ? There is no "I told you so" online, and no accountability for people that sit there and speculate about someone that they have never met.
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Not sure if you’ve researched this case in detail, or listened to the podcast but a lot of the things you are saying are simply not true. The police/fbi never created the hike story, that was randomly thrown out in the very early days of her disappearance by cal poly . It’s never been said Kristin was an avid hiker- yes she loved the outdoors but specifically the beach and spent her time there. The things about Paul not being convicted for a sex crime bc he was found innocent is a complete fabrication, no one ever pressed charges and side note, your implication that these women made these stories up is very offensive and off base. I understand that you offer an unconventional service to these cases that may have led to breaks in cases in the past, but completely disregarding facts in this case and asserting that Paul is being the target of a witch hunt is irresponsible. At least quote and discuss facts when laying out your theories...
*also, Paul’s history of documented violence began as a very young child- not years after Kristin disappeared as you implied
 
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Kristin Smart

Name: Kristin Denise Smart
Case Classification: Missing
Missing Since: May 25, 1996
Location Last Seen: San Luis Obispo, San Luis Obispo County, California

Physical Description
Date of Birth: February 20, 1977
Age: 19 yrs old
Race: White
Gender: Female
Height: 5'7"-5'8"
Weight: 125-155 lbs
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Brown
Nickname/Alias: Roxy
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Long, straight hair that is dyed a dark blonde.

Identifiers
Dentals: Available
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Grey half t-shirt, black vinyl shorts, Red/white tennis shoes.
Jewelry: None
Additional Personal Items: None

Circumstances of Disappearance
Kristin Smart was last seen at 02.00 in the morning of May 25, 1996, walking back to her residence hall on the Cal Poly campus from a party. She was accompanied by a male student who is the last known person believed to have seen Kristin Smart. He had reportedly just met Kristin at an off-campus party a few blocks away. Both had reportedly been drinking alcohol.

The student stated that he parted with Kristin Smart at the intersection of Grand and Perimeter. This location is a short distance from both of their dorms. The student has refused to speak with or cooperate with the Sheriff's Department regarding the disappearance.

Her roommate did not report her missing until May 28, 1996. Her identification, clothes and toiletries were left behind. She has not contacted friends or family since that date. Foul play is suspected. She was a freshman speech communications major at Cal Poly at the time.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Office
Agency Contact Person: Detective Nathan Paul
Agency Phone Number: 805-781-4550
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 960610965
NCIC Case Number: M-932737590
NamUs Case Number: 1984
NCMEC Case Number: 1062418

Information Source(s)
DOJCA
NamUs
NCMEC
The Fallen Wall
Find Kristin Smart Organization
Find San Luis Obispo Sheriffs Department
Son of Susan
NCMA
FBI
Unsolved Mysteries
1652DFCA - Kristin Denise Smart
 
We all know anybody can say anything on the internet. That is why stating info as fact without MSM to substantiate is not allowed at Websleuths unless the member is a Verified Insider or Verified Expert.

Also conspiracy theories, power posting, rudeness, and discussing removed posts and moderation is not allowed.

Okay, so moving on now from all the conspiracy theory type of discussion, back to discussing Kirsten's case in a responsible and respectable fashion.

:)
 
  • Kristin Denise Smart
Date of Birth February 20, 1977
Hair Dark Blonde
Eyes Brown
Height 6'1"
Weight 145 pounds
Sex Female
Race White
Remarks:
Smart was last seen wearing a grey half T-shirt, black surfing shorts, and red "Puma" athletic shoes. Her hair is straight and shoulder length.

Details:
Kristin Denise Smart was last seen at approximately 2:00 a.m., May 25, 1996, as she was walking back to her dorm room on the California Polytechnic campus, San Luis Obispo, California from an off-campus party. Kristin was accompanied by a fellow student who stated that he left her a block from her Muir Hall dorm to go to his dorm. Kristin did not return to her room and has not contacted family or friends since that time. She did not have any identification, money, or extra clothing when she disappeared.

Submit a Tip:
If you have seen Ms. Smart, or have any information as to her present whereabouts, please contact the Los Angeles Field Office of the FBI at (310) 477-6565. You may also contact the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Department, your local FBI office or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate.

FBI Field Office: Los Angeles

LINK:
KRISTIN DENISE SMART — FBI
 
Another search warrant served in connection with Kristin Smart disappearance
The sheriff’s office says it’s being assisted with the search "for specific items of evidence" by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office at the San Pedro home of Paul Flores.

Flores has never been named a suspect in the case but remains a person of interest, according to the sheriff’s office.
 
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