Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #36

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CD's attorney present today, John Prior, appears to have a bit of a criminal record himself.

Charged with battery with the intent to commit rape (2012)

From the article: ..."The charge came after a 19-year-old Caldwell woman seeking employment and legal advice reported Prior attempted to sexually assault her in his building’s conference room. Prior’s attorney argued during the jury trial that the victim consented to the advances and took money from his office. The woman denied both claims."

Source: Nampa attorney John Prior sentenced 120 days for battery
Source: Meridian attorney charged with intent to commit rape
Edited for grammar and clarification.

So he's... John Prior Offender?

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

I'm heartbroken over the developments in this case, especially as an Idaho resident. People here don't do things like that. It's unthinkable. He's probably much safer in jail, honestly. MOO.
 
Absolutely. The discovery yesterday and the identity confirmation that we will hear shortly completely changes my mind. C&L did it to get the kids out of the way.

And she continued to accept for her own use the payments made for the care of the kids (caretaker benefits for special-needs JJ and, IIRC, the survivor benefits set up by Joe Ryan for Tylee). This was minor relative to the horrendous violent crimes they committed against so many innocent people, but these ongoing thefts - and LVD's snarky text to Kay after learning CV had changed his beneficiary designation - demonstrate how much of a factor gaining funds off others without accountability or responsibility to anyone was in motivating these two's actions.
 
Why is he still practicing?
How did CD hook up with this lawyer?
no offense to any legal people reading this post, but I was a paralegal in Dallas for 22 years. I also carried a PI license. The Arizona was it? case, where Alex killed LVD's ex, would not pass the smell test in Dallas, I never understood how they made that work. There just seems to be a much more easy-going court system the farther west you go I guess?
 
@ attorneys please help

Hopefully TD autopsy is back soon. If it come back as murder will CD be able to use the life insurance money for his defense? Surely it will be frozen as suspected profit from criminal behaviour?

Same with LVD with JJs and TR welfare checks? And the money TR possibly inherited from her father.
 
in case you missed the hearing here it is


IMO both are going to blame Alex, perfect scapegoat

They can blame Alex all they want. They will then be charged with conspiracy to commit murder. Finding these children, literally, buried in Chad's backyard is so incriminating, it's frankly hard to believe.

I posted on my theory of conspiracy in March - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #27

The jist:
Source:What Do the Courts Consider in a Conspiracy Case? - FindLaw
A criminal conspiracy exists when two or more people agree to commit almost any unlawful act, then take some action toward its completion. The action taken need not itself be a crime, but it must indicate that those involved in the conspiracy knew of the plan and intended to break the law. A person may be convicted of conspiracy even if the actual crime was never committed.

Agreement Requirement
  • Lori, Alex, Chad agree that Charles is a non-believer, has been taken over by (Nick Schneider or Nick Snyder) must now be eliminated to further the mission of Chad’s “Gathering”, using insurance money to fund the cause. Unfortunately, plan goes skiwampus when Kay gets the money.
  • Lori, Alex, Chad, Melani agree that next up for elimination is Brandon. Fortunately, plan goes skiwampus as bullet misses target.
  • Lori, Alex, Chad agree, Tammy must go. Chad had a vision of her dying. October 9, “Paintball” gunman misses target. October 19, murder succeeds. Chad collects insurance money to further the mission.
  • December 12 - unclear if Lori, Chad and Alex agree that Alex must die or Lori, Chad and as yet unnamed suspects decide this. At any rate - Alex is dead.
Intent Requirement
Intention is key to prove conspiracy. This speaks to the mental state of those involved. All involved in the conspiracy must agree on the intended outcome. The players seem to have agreed that the outcome of this idiotic plan is the end of the world in July 2020.

Potential Evidence:
  • Documented evidence via Charles Vallow divorce papers that there is an end of times mission in play.
  • Documented evidence via Charles Vallow email to Adam Cox of falsified letter to Chad Daybell
  • IP statements to LE as reported in Brandon’s response to Melani’s custody case.
  • Finding the children buried in Chad's backyard. (updated)
  • What has been discovered behind the paywall at AVOW?
  • What has been discovered in the records of the group that cannot be named?
  • What has been discovered on Lori, Chad, Alex and Melani’s phones?
Overt Act Requirement
In most jurisdictions, at least one co-conspirator must take some concrete step in furtherance of the plan.
  • Alex
  • Lori, Chad, Alex or other unnamed POI at storage unit
  • Calling Melani Gibb to lie about the whereabouts of Tylee and JJ.
  • Finding the children buried in Chad's backyard. (updated)

Idaho Law Regarding Conspiracy
BBM
TITLE 18
CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 17
CONSPIRACIES
18-1701. CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY DEFINED. If two (2) or more persons combine or conspire to commit any crime or offense prescribed by the laws of the state of Idaho, and one (1) or more of such persons does any act to effect the object of the combination or conspiracy, each shall be punishable upon conviction in the same manner and to the same extent as is provided under the laws of the state of Idaho for the punishment of the crime or offenses that each combined to commit.

The crime is murder.

Idaho Law Regarding Homicide
TITLE 18
CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS
CHAPTER 40
HOMICIDE
18-4004. PUNISHMENT FOR MURDER. Subject to the provisions of sections 19-2515 and 19-2515A, Idaho Code, every person guilty of murder of the first degree shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for life, provided that a sentence of death shall not be imposed unless the prosecuting attorney filed written notice of intent to seek the death penalty as required under the provisions of section 18-4004A, Idaho Code, and provided further that whenever the death penalty is not imposed the court shall impose a sentence. If a jury, or the court if a jury is waived, finds a statutory aggravating circumstance beyond a reasonable doubt but finds that the imposition of the death penalty would be unjust, the court shall impose a fixed life sentence. If a jury, or the court if a jury is waived, does not find a statutory aggravating circumstance beyond a reasonable doubt or if the death penalty is not sought, the court shall impose a life sentence with a minimum period of confinement of not less than ten (10) years during which period of confinement the offender shall not be eligible for parole or discharge or credit or reduction of sentence for good conduct, except for meritorious service. Every person guilty of murder of the second degree is punishable by imprisonment not less than ten (10) years and the imprisonment may extend to life.
 
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Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow both in jail cells in two different counties. Both with a $1M bond. For several months they did not cooperate with law enforcement as they traveled to Hawaii. Answers are slowly being revealed. #fox10phoenix



LVD looks more like Charlie Manson than does CD in this side by side.

This is not a new thought to me regards LVD. During some of the clips LVD in the court room her smirk and posture specifically reminded of Manson, having recently watched a Manson documentary.
 
How many people sit squarely in the camp of "all the religious stuff is made up bull crap that Chad doesn't really believe"?
Does anyone think that Chad and Lori really believe this stuff?
The reason I ask pertains to the way that Tylee may have been disposed of (hate to type that).
There was something in the documents that IP had on his computer that describes a dark level spirit that was "now sealed away" or something to that effect. Does anyone remember that? Was it Nick Schneider that was referring to? I can't remember for sure and can't locate the document. Maybe it was in the email Chad sent Lori when he rated her family members? Lori (Chad) claim that JJ was light and then turned dark, but Chad has said Tylee was dark from the get go. I'm just wondering if there was some way that a particularly dark spirit would be "sealed away". MOO.

Edit by me.

I think it was mentioned that Tylee's bio father, Joseph Ryan, had been "sealed away."
 
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