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Coronavirus: WHO reports record increase in global cases for second day in a row

The World Health Organisation reported a record increase in global coronavirus cases for the second day in a row on Saturday as the total rose by 259,848 in 24 hours.

The biggest increases were in the US, Brazil, India and South Africa, according to a daily report.

The previous WHO record for new cases was 237,743 on Friday.

Deaths rose by 7,360 - the biggest one-day increase since 10 May.

Deaths have been averaging 4,800 a day in July, up slightly from an average of 4,600 a day in June.

Total global coronavirus cases surpassed 14 million on Friday, according to a Reuters tally, marking another milestone in the spread of the disease that has killed nearly 600,000 people in seven months.
 
I don't know if this has already been posted. But a pretty large study from South Korea weighing in on Child infection rates.



NYT: Older Children Spread the Coronavirus Just as Much as Adults, Large Study Finds

Link to actual study: Contact Tracing during Coronavirus Disease Outbreak, South Korea, 2020

From actual study link:

We detected COVID-19 in 11.8% of household contacts; rates were higher for contacts of children than adults. These risks largely reflected transmission in the middle of mitigation and therefore might characterize transmission dynamics during school closure....Studies have increasingly examined transmission within households. Earlier studies on the infection rate for symptomatic household contacts in the United States reported 10.5% (95% CI 2.9%–31.4%), significantly higher than for nonhousehold contacts....We also found the highest COVID-19 rate (18.6% [95% CI 14.0%–24.0%]) for household contacts of school-aged children and the lowest (5.3% [95% CI 1.3%–13.7%]) for household contacts of children 0–9 years in the middle of school closure. Despite closure of their schools, these children might have interacted with each other....Although the detection rate for contacts of preschool-aged children was lower, young children may show higher attack rates when the school closure ends, contributing to community transmission of COVID-19.

The role of household transmission of SARS-CoV-2 amid reopening of schools and loosening of social distancing underscores the need for a time-sensitive epidemiologic study to guide public health policy. Contact tracing is especially important in light of upcoming future SARS-CoV-2 waves, for which social distancing and personal hygiene will remain the most viable options for prevention. Understanding the role of hygiene and infection control measures is critical to reducing household spread, and the role of masking within the home, especially if any family members are at high risk, needs to be studied.
 

With all due respect, being a Psychiatrist does not make one an expert. My Psychiatrist, for example is absolutely outraged by people wearing masks, etc. Thinks the whole Coronavirus thing is ridiculous. In our last session (over phone) I told him not to talk about it anymore. It’s making me question his judgement about everything now! He is good a prescribing proper medication for psychiatric disorders, so I’ll stick with him for now.

I’m very concerned about the children going to school situation. I worry for the children stuck alone in abusive homes, or hungry, or for parents who can’t afford childcare. As usual the disadvantaged are hurt the most. On the other hand, with all the kids back together inside again in the fall, I can already see the virus numbers going way up as the little ones bring it home and spread it to their families. Now that will land you on the therapist couch! I can hear it already .... “When I was 7, I caught COVID-19, gave it to my grandpa and he died”. I don’t have a strong opinion either way, school or no school both are potentially disastrous.
 
The three Victoria people that the police were searching for yesterday evening in my state were arrested today at a hotel in a northern suburb. From TV footage, it looks like plain clothes police were involved in the arrest.

They are undergoing covid testing now. They better not have brought the virus into my state. :mad:
 
Coronavirus: UK must be 'vigilant' for a second wave of COVID-19 in the autumn, warns expert

Lifting lockdown restrictions has not led to a spike in coronavirus cases, the UK's national statistician has said, but he issued a warning for autumn as the PM insisted he does not want a second national shutdown.

Professor Sir Ian Diamond, head of the Office for National Statistics, told Sky's Sophy Ridge On Sunday an increase in infections depended on "how the population works".

He said he had not noticed any uptake in coronavirus since measures were eased, adding: "The message has been quite consistent in that we must be alert and we must be socially distanced and if we are really super careful and if we are able to follow all the rules it does seem to me that we should expect there to be a relative flatline at the moment.

"Clearly over the autumn we will need to be ever vigilant."
 
Seems I've been concerned about the US for little reason. This was an announcement on July 2nd that I came across in an Aussie article today.


"Today's announcement proves that our economy is roaring back" ... touting efforts to beat back the virus as "a historic thing"

"We've implemented an aggressive strategy to vanquish and kill the virus and protect Americans at the highest risk, while allowing those at lower risk to return safely to work"
"That's what's happening."
"In many cases, we've done an incredible job."

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...-economy-is-roaring-back-20200703-p558l2.html
 
Seems I've been concerned about the US for little reason. This was an announcement on July 2nd that I came across in an Aussie article today.


"Today's announcement proves that our economy is roaring back" ... touting efforts to beat back the virus as "a historic thing"

"We've implemented an aggressive strategy to vanquish and kill the virus and protect Americans at the highest risk, while allowing those at lower risk to return safely to work"
"That's what's happening."
"In many cases, we've done an incredible job."

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...-economy-is-roaring-back-20200703-p558l2.html

I think he was referring to a report from June regarding those comments.

I just came across this article. It seems strange to look back at the picture of a 1960's buffet.

The slow death of the American all-you-can-eat buffet

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Image captionThe Shady Maples Smorgasbord - specialising in Amish food - is requiring a mask and gloves
A dining experience beloved by generations of hungry Americans is in danger of being spoiled by the coronavirus pandemic.

Buffets - from the humblest hotel breakfasts to the grandest casino banquets - are struggling to stay afloat as new health restrictions come into place and wary diners eschew the self-serve dining tradition.

As many buffets go out of business across the US, others are innovating and trying desperately to keep the business model relevant and appetising.

What is the problem?
Susan Yin, the owner of Jack's Fresh in downtown Washington DC, tells BBC News that her average sales have dropped nearly 90% after they re-opened two months ago following a two month closure.

Jack's Fresh, which specialises in Asian food and American sandwiches, is currently making around $500 (£398) per day, down from an average of $3,500 before the pandemic, she says.

"No people work in this area," says Mrs Yin, referring to the commuters that have mostly been working from home since March. "It's still very quiet."

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Image captionBacon and broccoli - why not?
In March, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), which regulates food safety for the federal government, recommended"discontinuing self-service buffets and salad bars" until the pandemic subsides.

Officials said this was due to the communal serving utensils which are frequently touched by multiple patrons who may be contagious, as well as the crowds that can form around some items.

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Image captionUS health officials advise against eating at self-service buffets
The FDA guidelines note that Covid-19 is not thought to be transferred by the food itself, but rather through respiratory droplets from people in close contact.



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Image captionA family backyard buffet photographed in 1960
More at link.
 
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What happens if there's never a vaccine or cure?

That is covered near the end of this article.

What Happens Next? COVID-19 Futures, Explained With Playable Simulations

But here's the scarier question:

What if there's no vaccine for years? Or ever?

To be clear: this is unlikely. Most epidemiologists expect a vaccine in 1 to 2 years. Sure, there's never been a vaccine for any of the other coronaviruses before, but that's because SARS was eradicated quickly, and "the" common cold wasn't worth the investment.

Still, infectious disease researchers have expressed worries: What if we can't make enough? What if we rush it, and it's not safe?

Even in the nightmare "no-vaccine" scenario, we still have 3 ways out. From most to least terrible:

1) Do intermittent or loose R < 1 interventions, to reach "natural herd immunity". (Warning: this will result in many deaths & damaged lungs. And won't work if immunity doesn't last.)

2) Do the R < 1 interventions forever. Contact tracing & wearing masks just becomes a new norm in the post-COVID-19 world, like how STI tests & wearing condoms became a new norm in the post-HIV world.

3) Do the R < 1 interventions until we develop treatments that make COVID-19 way, way less likely to need critical care. (Which we should be doing anyway!) Reducing ICU use by 10x is the same as increasing our ICU capacity by 10x:
 
I think he was referring to a report from June regarding those comments.

Yes, referring to June employment figures. I am more wondering about the aggressive strategy that is beating back the virus. It is the first I have heard of a strategy on a Federal level. I guess, if there is a strategy, it hasn't been so successful in July.

Re: The buffets. I can't imagine ever eating a restaurant buffet again. I got food poisoning from a buffet several years ago ... that put me off forever. Especially out of the question in this time of covid.
 
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That is covered near the end of this article.

What Happens Next? COVID-19 Futures, Explained With Playable Simulations

But here's the scarier question:

What if there's no vaccine for years? Or ever?

To be clear: this is unlikely. Most epidemiologists expect a vaccine in 1 to 2 years. Sure, there's never been a vaccine for any of the other coronaviruses before, but that's because SARS was eradicated quickly, and "the" common cold wasn't worth the investment.

Still, infectious disease researchers have expressed worries: What if we can't make enough? What if we rush it, and it's not safe?

Even in the nightmare "no-vaccine" scenario, we still have 3 ways out. From most to least terrible:

1) Do intermittent or loose R < 1 interventions, to reach "natural herd immunity". (Warning: this will result in many deaths & damaged lungs. And won't work if immunity doesn't last.)

2) Do the R < 1 interventions forever. Contact tracing & wearing masks just becomes a new norm in the post-COVID-19 world, like how STI tests & wearing condoms became a new norm in the post-HIV world.

3) Do the R < 1 interventions until we develop treatments that make COVID-19 way, way less likely to need critical care. (Which we should be doing anyway!) Reducing ICU use by 10x is the same as increasing our ICU capacity by 10x:

We are working on option 3 right now.

DeSantis: 30,000 vials of remdesivir headed to Florida hospitals

What is the treatment for COVID-19 patients? Montgomery doctor explains
 
Yes, referring to June employment figures. I am more wondering about the aggressive strategy that is beating back the virus. It is the first I have heard of a strategy on a Federal level. I guess, if there is a strategy, it hasn't been so successful in July.

Re: The buffets. I can't imagine ever eating a restaurant buffet again. I got food poisoning from a buffet several years ago ... that put me off forever. Especially out of the question in this time of covid.
I think the strategy is mentioned in this briefing.

Remarks at White House Coronavirus Task Force Briefing

Excerpt from the briefing.

We've built up our readiness under the strategy we developed to address surges, save lives, and, in time, defeat the virus. We're in a much stronger position to support states, hospitals, and individuals as they fight back.

There are six parts to the strategy: surveillance, testing, containment, healthcare capacity, therapeutics, and vaccines.

First, we've been strengthening surveillance so that we can be aware of and respond to surges. That means, for instance, being able to track more cases among younger Americans that we never would have caught earlier in the pandemic.

Second, we have the world's greatest testing capabilities, enabling us to confirm the presence of the virus when it crops up, and we are confident that capacity will continue to rise in the coming months.

Third, states are building the capacity to track and contain outbreaks of the virus. With federal help, many states have substantially expanded their own capabilities, and we're deploying knowledgeable, experienced CDC teams to the areas now seeing increases.

Fourth, we're helping healthcare systems secure sufficient capacity and supplies. We've dramatically expanded American manufacturing of PPE, and the FDA has authorized new technologies to sterilize equipment for reuse. We've spoken with hospitals and states that are building up their own PPE reserves, many of them getting up to 60 or 90 days of supplies. Through the Strategic National Stockpile, we have far more visibility into supply needs across the country, including centralized coordination capabilities that we lacked just a few short months ago.

Visiting healthcare providers around the country, I've seen how they're adapting to bring back patients while taking appropriate precautions. America's hospitals are ready to get back to business, while maintaining their readiness for COVID-19.

The fifth and sixth elements of this strategy are thanks to the President's historic Operation Warp Speed.

We now have promising therapeutics that are benefiting tens of thousands of American patients and, in all likelihood, have saved thousands of lives already. We've identified two very promising pharmaceutical treatments, remdesivir and dexamethasone. As of today, we've allocated more than 120,000 courses of remdesivir to all of the 50 states. We've added dexamethasone, a very low-cost steroid, to our treatment guidelines, and we believe it is reasonable to assume that other corticosteroids, which may be more readily accessible in some places, would have similar immunologic effects. Another promising therapeutic, convalescent plasma, has been used to treat more than 25,000 Americans in nearly 3,000 sites across the country.

There are no certainties in science, but with more than 140 clinical trials underway in the U.S., it's a pretty safe bet that more good news on therapeutics is on the way, and on the way soon.

Finally, we have announced large investments to support three different vaccine candidates all the way through to manufacturing. These candidates are now in human clinical trials, some with the potential to start delivering safe and effective doses before the end of the year, and we'll be adding support for several more candidates. We're expanding manufacturing capacity and already making the vials, needles, and syringes that we may need.

Our capabilities have grown exponentially in the time allowed by the patriotic sacrifices of the American people. We have a much better grasp of the virus and much more data with which to model it.

With that data, as you've heard today, we can focus on local trends. We have some very concerning hotspots, and we can track when other hotspots emerge, as we expect they may. We're focused on the states and the counties within those states—approximately 3 percent of counties—that represent hotspots.

It's important for the American people to be aware of this variation across the country.

Americans need to understand their local trends because we want to help people make the right decisions for themselves.

Making decisions for yourself has to be based on three axes of risk: You want to assess where you are, who you are and whom you live with, and what activity you're thinking about doing.

There are gradations of risk within each of these axes.

Going to an outdoor restaurant in Montana is a great deal different from a crowded indoor bar in Houston. When you interact with fewer people in an activity, when you interact with them for a shorter time, your risk is reduced, and individuals can balance these kinds of factors.

What I've laid out today is remarkable progress by the President's administration, and a particular credit to our team here at HHS.

Continued at link.
 
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Cuomo announces New York will provide COVID-19 medication Remdesivir to Florida

"When New York was climbing the COVID mountain with no end in sight and resources were scarce, we were incredibly moved by the generosity of states around the country that stepped up to provide supplies and medical personnel in our time of need," Governor Cuomo said.

"I said at the time that we would return the favor if and when other states needed help. Today, on behalf of all New Yorkers, we will deploy Remdesivir to help Florida care for patients as it waits for further supply from the federal government. We will stand by our fellow Americans every step of the way as our nation fights COVID-19 together."

The shipment is set to arrive in the sunshine state on Saturday (yesterday).
 
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My opinion only but I predict ~There are many ways to adapt to the pandemic and other threats down the road: work-from-home, tele-education, tele-health, etc. But some types of businesses are doomed. Bars, inside dining only restaurants, etc. aren't going to make it. Time to face reality.MOO
 
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Cuomo announces New York will provide COVID-19 medication Remdesivir to Florida

"When New York was climbing the COVID mountain with no end in sight and resources were scarce, we were incredibly moved by the generosity of states around the country that stepped up to provide supplies and medical personnel in our time of need," Governor Cuomo said.

"I said at the time that we would return the favor if and when other states needed help. Today, on behalf of all New Yorkers, we will deploy Remdesivir to help Florida care for patients as it waits for further supply from the federal government. We will stand by our fellow Americans every step of the way as our nation fights COVID-19 together."

The shipment is set to arrive in the sunshine state on Saturday (yesterday).
I think Cuomo should hang on to it as it may be needed in a couple of weeks judging by the Queens gatherings posted.
 
Men, Canadians aged 45 to 59, most likely to not wear masks indoors, poll finds

“Men are significantly less likely to wear masks compared to women,” the Abacus Data poll surveying 1,500 Canadians found — with 51 per cent of men reporting that almost always wore masks indoor compared to 59 per cent of women. Masks were also more common for younger Canadians, with most resistance to wearing the masks in the 45 to 59 age group.

Political views only had a minor impact on whether respondents wore masks in indoor settings like retail stores or public transit, the poll found.

[...] “It seems your willingness to wear a mask is related to your perception of risk,” he told the Star. “Those living in rural or smaller communities where the density is lower and it's easier to self-distance, the perceived value of wearing a mask goes down.”
 
I posted an article about this yesterday. Partying like there is no tomorrow, not a mask in sight, no distancing. I expect a second wave in NYC after seeing this but no one has commented on it at all so far.

I have made many comments on NY's prospects in the last 48 hours. And I live in the state. Which also means I live in the US. Am I no one? Why is it so important to single out NY for censure anyway? I see it often here, and I don't get it, other than probable schadenfreude. But anyway, we are ALL in for it again, because we are all humans, and this is a hard way to live indefinitely (and is a disaster for economies on all scales).

Coronavirus Is Surging All Over Asia and the Pacific. Here’s What the Rest of the World Can Learn

Let's none of us get smug, and maybe let's learn from each other. That is literally the only way any of our countries succeeded in the last century, and it is our path forward in this one. And maybe turn off the pundits on our TVs every once in a while. They have nothing to contribute but drama and prejudice. Time for positive leadership that actually accomplishes something. Time for applauding what works and applying it ourselves, rather than envy and contempt.
 
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I have made many comments on NY's prospects in the last 48 hours. And I live in the state. Which means I also live in the US. Am I no one? Why is it so important to single out NY for censure anyway? I see it often here, and I don't get it, other than probable schadenfreude. But anyway, we are ALL in for it again.

Coronavirus Is Surging All Over Asia and the Pacific. Here’s What the Rest of the World Can Learn

Let's none of us get smug, and maybe let's learn from each other. That is literally the only way any of our countries succeeded in the last century, and it is our path forward in this one. And maybe turn off the pundits on our TVs every once in a while. They have nothing to contribute but drama and prejudice. Time for positive leadership that actually accomplishes something. Time for applauding what works and applying it ourselves, rather than envy and hate.
I meant noone had commented (or I didn't see them if they/you did) on the mask less gatherings that were posted. Many other states have been mentioned on here and examples of no masks by the public have continually been commented on. NY has the highest US deaths per million which is why it gets attention. I don't have TV either so I don't watch pundits at all.

ETA just taking the opportunity to add the link to the Phases guidance from the WH as some are saying there is no guidance. I think NY is in Phase 3 right?

Opening Up America Again | The White House
 
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I meant noone had commented (or I didn't see them if they/you did) on the mask less gatherings that were posted. Many other states have been mentioned on here and examples of no masks by the public have continually been commented on. NY has the highest US deaths per million which is why it gets attention. I don't have TV either so I don't watch pundits at all.
I understand, and thanks.
 
Can You Get Covid-19 Twice? Yes, But It's Rare

"Carter Wright, 29, a Nashville photographer, claims that he recently tested positive for COVID-19 twice for the virus recently.

He says tested positive for the coronavirus in March after taking a trip to New York City. He says he spent the next few months under the assumption that he's better and could possibly be immune to the virus. But he says he has tested positive again for COVID-19 for a second time, four months after he first got the virus.

Unfortunately, this isn't unheard of.

"Well we think that actually second cases of COVID are biologically possible, but they must be wonderfully rare," said Dr. William Schaffner, Vanderbilt infectious disease specialist.

Dr. Schaffner says there are still so many unknowns with this virus, which means we are learning as we go."


Or perhaps one of his positive tests was simply a false positive. It does happen.

I'm not sure that it is quite rare. We are pretty much still discovering how this works. The WHO says, "There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection."
"Immunity passports" in the context of COVID-19

Or here ...
Because there is not yet a clear, measurable marker in the body that correlates with long-term immunity, researchers must piece together the patchwork of immune responses and compare it with responses to infections with other viruses to estimate how durable protection might be. Studies of other coronaviruses suggest that ‘sterilizing immunity’, which prevents infection, might last for only a matter of months.
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