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We’ve seen similar videos of studies prior, but it stuns me to really see just how much droplets and aerosols we emit even when talking, not just coughing and sneezing.

There should be psa videos of this put out for the public to see and hopefully understand the efficacy of wearing a mask. It sure keeps a visual that sticks in my mind!


http://press.psprings.co.uk/thx/july/thx215748.R.pdf
Which mask works best? We filmed people coughing and sneezing to find out
Face mask safety: Two or three layers best to protect against coronavirus, study finds - CNN
 
MrX said:
This is something that is rarely discussed. We see pictures of large crowds, all over the world, wherever they are able to congregate, comment on how "terrible" it is, and move on. At some point we need to come to grips with the fact that perhaps half the population fears this and half don't. How do we figure out a way for both groups to live in peace, for what may be a long time?
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Another question: how do we figure out a way for both groups to live?
 
Trump says Covid - which has killed 140,000 Americans - is a 'downer' while bragging about being in 'so many rap songs'

Trump says Covid - which has killed 140,000 Americans - is a 'downer' while bragging about being in 'so many rap songs'

Danielle Zoellner

3 hrs ago
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Donald Trump has called the coronavirus a “downer” and “dampener” on his poll numbers, less than one week after the United States hit the grim milestone of 140,000 deaths.

“We were doing a great job. We were sailing. George Washington would’ve had a hard time beating us,” Mr Trump said when speaking to Barstool Sports‘ Dave Portnoy on Friday at the White House.

He added: “And then when the China virus came in. It’s a dampener, it’s a downer.”
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"I was in so many rap songs," Mr Trump said prior to the presidency. "This was before I did this."

The president estimated references to his name were in "like 79" songs. Rapper Mac Miller notably created a song in 2011 entitled Donald Trump, and it helped put the musician on the map by breaking the Billboard Hot 100 chart and going platinum. The rapper later denounced the president in 2015 when he was running for election.

This was one example among others where Mr Trump's name was used to symbolise wealth and success in the US.
 
European countries considering new lockdown restrictions amid coronavirus surge

European countries considering new lockdown restrictions amid coronavirus surge

Peter Stubley

5 hrs ago
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A surge in new coronavirus cases across Europe has prompted several nations to consider tougher restrictions to prevent a “second wave”.

Spain, France, Belgium, Germany and Romania have all experienced a significant rise in infections amid concerns citizens are starting to drop their guard against the disease in the summer weather.

“Our recent habits have favoured the spread of the virus for several weeks now,” the French health ministry said in a statement after more than 1,000 cases were recorded.
 
weepingangel said:
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“If people can’t space out, then we’ll have to limit the number of people who can be there,” Baker said Friday. “That’s not something we want to do.
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Why do so many places just say this kind of stuff over and over and over and over? (Not sure if MA is one of those places.)

I see it said from all kinds of areas, about all types of covid protections. As if people don't know already.

It is like telling a small child 'next time you do that you will be sent to your room' and then never actually doing it.
 
JerseyGirl said:
For millions of America’s renters, there’s a cliff approaching. Enhanced unemployment benefits of $600 a week that have kept many afloat will expire soon.

And this week, a federal moratorium that had protected an estimated 12 million renters from eviction for four months is expiring.

A federal eviction moratorium is ending. Here's what renters should know.

Of the 110 million Americans living in rental households, 20 percent are at risk of eviction by Sept. 30, according to an analysis.
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What are the people who are evicted going to do?
20% is about 22,000,000 people at risk of eviction.

Evicted in autumn, winter approaching, rental properties sitting empty.
Perhaps the amount of illegal squatters is going to rise dramatically.
 
NEW ORLEANS — New Orleans’ mayor is shutting down the city’s bars because of rising coronavirus numbers and is also forbidding restaurants to sell alcoholic drinks to go.

Mayor LaToya Cantrell said Friday that some lines of people waiting to buy drinks were so long they became “a gathering in themselves, and no mask-wearing and the like.”

Cantrell says the city is seeing daily increases in confirmed coronavirus cases about double its threshold of 50 a day for more relaxed rules. The rule against take-out sales of alcoholic drinks takes effect at 6 a.m. Saturday.

The mayor’s orders came as the Louisiana Department of Health reported more than 2,000 new confirmed coronavirus cases, for a total of 103,734. New Orleans’ total rose 103, to 9,752.

The Latest: New Orleans shuts bars, bans takeout booze sales
 
Trino said:
Another question: how do we figure out a way for both groups to live?
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People in one group are doing that, now, through isolation.

In the beginning, during the anti-shutdown protests, it was mentioned (jokingly, at the time) that the protesters should sign a pledge not to seek medical attention if/when they get sick. Is it unrealistic to implement such a scheme?

Technically it would be pretty simple - setup a registry where people who plan on engaging in "high risk" activities are issued a sort of "membership" that would be required for access to places like bars, gyms, casinos, etc. In exchange they agree to go to the bottom of the triage list at hospitals. As ghoulish as it sounds, it would allow people to congregate without taking an ICU bed from someone who chose not to engage in high risk behavior.

Whatever it is, something needs to be done. If the people in all of these group pictures were truly just "ignorant," then education would work. If, on the other hand, they are making informed decisions to take these chances, then repeating that the behavior is dangerous is just going in one ear and out the other.
 
MrX said:
People in one group are doing that, now, through isolation.

In the beginning, during the anti-shutdown protests, it was mentioned (jokingly, at the time) that the protesters should sign a pledge not to seek medical attention if/when they get sick. Is it unrealistic to implement such a scheme?

Technically it would be pretty simple - setup a registry where people who plan on engaging in "high risk" activities are issued a sort of "membership" that would be required for access to places like bars, gyms, casinos, etc. In exchange they agree to go to the bottom of the triage list at hospitals. As ghoulish as it sounds, it would allow people to congregate without taking an ICU bed from someone who chose not to engage in high risk behavior.

Whatever it is, something needs to be done. If the people in all of these group pictures were truly just "ignorant," then education would work. If, on the other hand, they are making informed decisions to take these chances, then repeating that the behavior is dangerous is just going in one ear and out the other.
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While I agree with you that the messages are going in one ear and out the other, it seems to me that people are learning to just 'live with it'. With the only people who are kicking up a stink being those who are flouting the advisements.

Though the ones who are forced to stay home by the ones who won't follow the advisements may become more than a little tired of the lack of effort in suppressing the virus.
 
tmar said:
European countries considering new lockdown restrictions amid coronavirus surge

European countries considering new lockdown restrictions amid coronavirus surge

Peter Stubley

5 hrs ago
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A surge in new coronavirus cases across Europe has prompted several nations to consider tougher restrictions to prevent a “second wave”.

Spain, France, Belgium, Germany and Romania have all experienced a significant rise in infections amid concerns citizens are starting to drop their guard against the disease in the summer weather.

“Our recent habits have favoured the spread of the virus for several weeks now,” the French health ministry said in a statement after more than 1,000 cases were recorded.
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This will be a critical 5-6 weeks on the continent as so many Europeans take "holidays". A lot of business slows to a crawl in August as people head to the beaches or other popular destinations within Europe. For many vacationers, they won't want to change their plans now.
 
JerseyGirl said:
Woman Refuses to Wear Mask, Compares It to Pants Not Stopping 'Fart' Smell

In the clip, the woman can be seen in the video with her back turned to customers filming and criticizing her for not wearing a mask. The woman appears to be filming those filming and criticizing her, keeping her back to them and holding her phone next to her head. ...

"You think that mask is going to protect you?" she asked. Pointing to the back of her pants, she adds: "when you fart out your *advertiser censored*, you can smell it! You think that mask is going to protect you?" She then heads for the exit.
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Another idiot getting her scientific info from memes. This is a real problem in the US.
 
CSIDreamer said:
Hey, good news. Florida's RT is down to .98!

Rt COVID-19
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And yet when I click on the filter (on the right) for the 'Ten Largest', FL shows a 'latest' RT of close to 1.2.

I guess that I am not understanding the way they are calculating and displaying the RT? By showing one rate under latest as .98, and another latest rate under Ten Largest as close to 1.2.
 
Tropical Storm Hanna heads for Corpus Christi, a coronavirus hot spot — The Texas Tribune

“Already dealing with nearly 10,000 coronavirus cases and more than 100 deaths, Nueces County is now preparing for Tropical Storm Hanna, headed for the Texas coast.”

“The virus wasn’t always spreading so rapidly in Nueces County, which reported fewer than 100 cases and three deaths before Texas’ stay-at-home order expired April 30. But people spent the summer gathering at beaches and restaurants in the popular beachfront community, and now the county has seen a spike in cases.

Just last Friday, Nueces County Medical Examiner Adel Shaker was shocked to learn that a baby boy, less than 6 months old, had tested positive for COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus, and died shortly after that.”
 
beatrixpotter said:
Gee, anyone remember when TX insisted their hospital systems could handle the impending case load? How come a housewife in GA knew that was a lie? What the heck is wrong with these people so invested in being delusional at the expense of people's lives?!?!
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This is the first I've read about hospitals sending patients home to die. This just doesn't seem right. This is not cancer. I can't imagine having to give up on a COVID patient. Not to mention the risk to family members when their loved one comes home to die - especially in a poor area like this which is likely to have multiple generations under the same roof. Very sad and a poor reflection on our country's ability to care for the sick and elderly after having six months to prepare for this. Where's our safety net? Where are my tax dollars going, if not here?
 
beatrixpotter said:
Gee, anyone remember when TX insisted their hospital systems could handle the impending case load? How come a housewife in GA knew that was a lie? What the heck is wrong with these people so invested in being delusional at the expense of people's lives?!?!
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A Texas border county had the coronavirus under control. Then the governor stepped in.

“The county has a 49-bed hospital. Critical cases usually go to a hospital in McAllen, about 50 minutes away, but neighboring Rio Grande Valley counties are seeing their hospitalizations and emergency room numbers increase too, Vasquez said.
The county is one of the poorest in the nation and the state, is majority Latino, and many are not insured or are underinsured.”
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49 Beds. Border county.
 
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