Found Deceased CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #49

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The holidays are fast approaching and my heart hurts as I think about Gannon and his family, and the emptiness and heartache they will endure. Each day is painful for them, but the holidays are always worse when family you love is not here. Every time I see a certain color blue, I immediately think of sweet, handsome Gannon and how blue the skies must be in Heaven! No punishment on this Earth will ever be severe enough for the wretched soul that took his precious life. Forever Gannon
 

Thanks @Seattle1!

For me, that was not a terribly persuasive brief. I have no idea what the judge will do but I guess the defense will have the opportunity to post one last brief before that decision is made.

CRS 16-8-5-401(1) ("defendant waives privilege")
doesn't mention recording even though we've had the ability to easily audio-record for over a half-century (and the ability to easily videotape for over a quarter-century.) The state claims the statute could include recordings. Yeah, it could. It could have been written to include alot of things not mentioned. Maybe it could even have said all parties can directly observe evaluations in real time. But that's not what it says. Observation, whether via audio- or videotape or in "the flesh" wasn't mentioned. And it seems to me there is good reason it wasn't for a pre-trial competency evaluation.

As a non-lawyer, the brief to me seems to rest mainly on the notion of "transparency is always best" and I'm not sure that's the case so far as a defendant's pre-trial rights go. (And I'm quite sure when it comes down to it, it's not how most DA's offices operate either!)

A second difficulty I have is with the argument the state makes about the possibility of conflicting reports. While admitting they aren't "soothsayers" and so there may not be a future conflict, the state argues recordings will be the "best evidence" for all parties to consider if there is a conflict in recommendations re: competency.

That argument makes it sound as though the state expects all parties to be able to properly function as fully-trained psychiatrists and psychologists, if necessary. Coming from a psychology perspective, I have trouble with that notion.

If there is a conflict, the best evidence, in my opinion, is not the recordings but the testimony of the evaluators. Anyone who does court-ordered evaluations is going to have a very clear idea why he/she made a particular recommendation. He/she will lay out his/her reasoning in the report to the court and will be prepared to discuss that reasoning.

For example, let's say the defendant said A, B, and C during the evals. (Of course, it wouldn't be this simple in a real eval situation.)

Evaluator #1 testifies A was key in his recommendation of competency. (A fact he included his report.) Evaluator #2 testifies C was key in her recommendation of incompetency. (A fact she included in her report.) It sounds as though the state is arguing:

1) Statement B, a statement neither evaluator thought particularly relevant, should be heard and considered by the "psychologically-untrained" court parties to determine competency.

2) Both Statements A and C need to be heard on tape/ seen on videotape by the psychologically-untrained court parties to determine which statement was "heard wrong" in real time by the trained evaluators.

Of course, the evaluators can be and should be examined about their recommendations and their weighting of Statements A and C contained in their respective reports. Of course, each evaluator will be allowed to read the other evauator's report and will be prepared to offer expert testimony to rebut the other report. And Evaluator #1 can be asked why he appeared to discount C while #2 can be asked the same about A. But the notion that the court has to hear/see both A and C on tape to decide which is "right" (or decide neither is and B is key instead) doesn't make sense to me. In fact, I can't think of other instances where conflicts in expert testimony even during a trial would be handled that way. For example, if there is a dispute about autopsy findings between the state's medical examiner and the defense expert, the court doesn't view a videotape of the autopsy to decide who is "right."

JMO
 
Thanks @Seattle1!

For me, that was not a terribly persuasive brief. I have no idea what the judge will do but I guess the defense will have the opportunity to post one last brief before that decision is made.

CRS 16-8-5-401(1) ("defendant waives privilege")
doesn't mention recording even though we've had the ability to easily audio-record for over a half-century (and the ability to easily videotape for over a quarter-century.) The state claims the statute could include recordings. Yeah, it could. It could have been written to include alot of things not mentioned. Maybe it could even have said all parties can directly observe evaluations in real time. But that's not what it says. Observation, whether via audio- or videotape or in "the flesh" wasn't mentioned. And it seems to me there is good reason it wasn't for a pre-trial competency evaluation.

As a non-lawyer, the brief to me seems to rest mainly on the notion of "transparency is always best" and I'm not sure that's the case so far as a defendant's pre-trial rights go. (And I'm quite sure when it comes down to it, it's not how most DA's offices operate either!)

A second difficulty I have is with the argument the state makes about the possibility of conflicting reports. While admitting they aren't "soothsayers" and so there may not be a future conflict, the state argues recordings will be the "best evidence" for all parties to consider if there is a conflict in recommendations re: competency.

That argument makes it sound as though the state expects all parties to be able to properly function as fully-trained psychiatrists and psychologists, if necessary. Coming from a psychology perspective, I have trouble with that notion.

If there is a conflict, the best evidence, in my opinion, is not the recordings but the testimony of the evaluators. Anyone who does court-ordered evaluations is going to have a very clear idea why he/she made a particular recommendation. He/she will lay out his/her reasoning in the report to the court and will be prepared to discuss that reasoning.

For example, let's say the defendant said A, B, and C during the evals. (Of course, it wouldn't be this simple in a real eval situation.)

Evaluator #1 testifies A was key in his recommendation of competency. (A fact he included his report.) Evaluator #2 testifies C was key in her recommendation of incompetency. (A fact she included in her report.) It sounds as though the state is arguing:

1) Statement B, a statement neither evaluator thought particularly relevant, should be heard and considered by the "psychologically-untrained" court parties to determine competency.

2) Both Statements A and C need to be heard on tape/ seen on videotape by the psychologically-untrained court parties to determine which statement was "heard wrong" in real time by the trained evaluators.

Of course, the evaluators can be and should be examined about their recommendations and their weighting of Statements A and C contained in their respective reports. Of course, each evaluator will be allowed to read the other evauator's report and will be prepared to offer expert testimony to rebut the other report. And Evaluator #1 can be asked why he appeared to discount C while #2 can be asked the same about A. But the notion that the court has to hear/see both A and C on tape to decide which is "right" (or decide neither is and B is key instead) doesn't make sense to me. In fact, I can't think of other instances where conflicts in expert testimony even during a trial would be handled that way. For example, if there is a dispute about autopsy findings between the state's medical examiner and the defense expert, the court doesn't view a videotape of the autopsy to decide who is "right."

JMO
Seems to me the defense didn't like LS being recorded but since it happened, they want to use it but not share it with the State. I agree that the defense can't have their cake and eat it too! Otherwise, I thought the State's argument on the statute was weak. I'm in no hurry for the decision.
 
The holidays are fast approaching and my heart hurts as I think about Gannon and his family, and the emptiness and heartache they will endure. Each day is painful for them, but the holidays are always worse when family you love is not here. Every time I see a certain color blue, I immediately think of sweet, handsome Gannon and how blue the skies must be in Heaven! No punishment on this Earth will ever be severe enough for the wretched soul that took his precious life. Forever Gannon

I quite agree! So sad.

JMVHO.
 
Lance Benzel@lancebenzel

#LeteciaStauch's second competency eval will be performed by Dr. Jackie Grimmett of Colorado Springs. This eval will consider whether def. has a "rational understanding" of case against her, and whether she can assist in her own defense. #GannonStauch

12:48 PM · Sep 8, 2020·

I’m sorry if the answer to this has been posted already....

Will she stay in jail for this second evaluation? Do we know if it has been completed? I periodically look for her on the El Paso County inmate search, and I see her name every time, since she’s been back from the 1st.
 
I’m sorry if the answer to this has been posted already....

Will she stay in jail for this second evaluation? Do we know if it has been completed? I periodically look for her on the El Paso County inmate search, and I see her name every time, since she’s been back from the 1st.
Yes. LS will not be out of custody. I recall the professional contract included approval for travel time. I believe I posted the link in the media thread.

Eval has not commenced -- there's an issue before the court on whether or not the evaluation should be video recorded or not.
 
Yes. LS will not be out of custody. I recall the professional contract included approval for travel time. I believe I posted the link in the media thread.

Eval has not commenced -- there's an issue before the court on whether or not the evaluation should be video recorded or not.

Thanks for your help, as always!
 
Yes. LS will not be out of custody. I recall the professional contract included approval for travel time. I believe I posted the link in the media thread.

Eval has not commenced -- there's an issue before the court on whether or not the evaluation should be video recorded or not.

Considering WHO is before the court, no one should be in a room alone with her. Video at a minimum! She's dangerous!

JMO
 
Yes. LS will not be out of custody. I recall the professional contract included approval for travel time. I believe I posted the link in the media thread.

Eval has not commenced -- there's an issue before the court on whether or not the evaluation should be video recorded or not.

RBBM

Ugh, delays . . . patience is not my strong suit!

In the meantime, today's goodies while we wait.

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I keep checking in for updates on this case. I’m so disappointed with the delays but on the other hand, I want all the little ducks lined up appropriately so that this woman never sees the light of day again! Does anyone know if the daughter will ever be charged at minimum as an accomplice after the fact?
 
I keep checking in for updates on this case. I’m so disappointed with the delays but on the other hand, I want all the little ducks lined up appropriately so that this woman never sees the light of day again! Does anyone know if the daughter will ever be charged at minimum as an accomplice after the fact?

Maybe others on WS know something I don't but I've never seen evidence that would support charging LS's daughter.

A teenager buying stuff at mom's direction that is later used to clean up the scene and driving mom around or picking mom up in a car at mom's direction isn't really enough to be charged as an accessory so far as I know. Those actions can easily be a matter of being LS's minor daughter and did not require the daughter to have had knowledge LS was guilty or knowledge of LS's intended future actions. And we don't have evidence the daughter actively aided in the body disposal so far as I know. We'll likely know more after LS's trial.

If strong evidence implicating others as intentionally, voluntarily, and actively participating in the crime is available, I'd expect them to be charged.
JMO
 
Maybe others on WS know something I don't but I've never seen evidence that would support charging LS's daughter.

A teenager buying stuff at mom's direction that is later used to clean up the scene and driving mom around or picking mom up in a car at mom's direction isn't really enough to be charged as an accessory so far as I know. Those actions can easily be a matter of being LS's minor daughter and did not require the daughter to have had knowledge LS was guilty or knowledge of LS's intended future actions. And we don't have evidence the daughter actively aided in the body disposal so far as I know. We'll likely know more after LS's trial.

If strong evidence implicating others as intentionally, voluntarily, and actively participating in the crime is available, I'd expect them to be charged.
JMO

I think you're correct here.
If LE had any evidence at all that anyone else was involved, I have no no doubt they'd have already been charged.

jmo
 
I can’t imagine living with that woman that there was not an inkling by anyone that her relationship with Gannon was off kilter. I so wish for a time rewind so that this could have been stopped before this child experienced the ultimate horror.

I'd like a time rewind as well.

Justice for G'Man.
 
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