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Just like the Ramsey case.The first two weeks in this case were crucial in solving this case. Any opportunity of finding telling evidence has long gone now. It looks like a death bed confession is their only hope of solving this case now
With regards to the shirt and the book, I feel like they were put in the book bag to point the finger away from the perpetrator, to make seem like it wasn’t the FamilyWith this case, it really does make more sense if it was an inside job. So much evidence doesn't add up. Asha was afraid of the dark, of dogs, her brother didn't wake up when she disappeared, the door was found to be locked that morning, etc. However, the authorities ruled out the parents really early on. They were never considered suspects that I know of. I do think the Dad's claim of going out to get candy in the middle of the night as very strange. If it was the parents I think it was accidental IMO. I would look at who attended the family gathering a few days earlier. Her grandmother's house was nearby. She could have walked there. I always theorized that it was someone close to the family. Like a friend of a uncle, cousin's new boyfriend, etc. In regards to if it was a family member, how could the Dr Seuss book and NKOTB shirt tie into that?
Welcome to Ws andersgravlax, thanks for the well-thought out and detailed post!I disagree with the idea that the parents did it. I also have some thoughts on the case. Starting out, I think the parents are innocent. Here is why. First of all, I don't think they could have evaded the FBI and local police. During the early investigation, emotions would be rife, and they'd be caught up in the middle of the search. I really have difficult believing that, had they killed her, they wouldn't be found, slipping up and saying something leading investigators to them. Think about it: they've been up for hours, pretending to help look for their child, but they still wouldn't slip up, and refer to her in the past tense or something? I doubt it. Furthermore, during the later stages of the investigation (ongoing), I have difficulty believing that they'd be able to evade the spotlight, especially if information and leads are as dried up as some people seem to think. It's also worth considering that law enforcement personnel (especially FBI) spend their lives working cases like this. I'm generally a pretty skeptical person, but I'd imagine they'd be able to kind of "sniff" out suspicious characters, and just get a general gut feeling about who might be hiding something. If that was the case, and the parents were indeed guilty, why has the case not been closed by now. If it's the parents, there's exponentially less investigation to be done.
At any rate, I also think the notion that the parents not doing enough to advocate for Asha being found is a little shortsighted, especially when that is extended to implicate them in the crime. They could be private people, who either don't wait their personal lives broadcast, people who just have faith in the police, or, perhaps they know that progress is being made behind closed doors (i.e. disclosed to them, but not us). It's also worth considering why a case would have widespread media coverage to begin with. I think this can be broken down to two major reasons. Reason 1 is the desire of the parents to have the case broadcast. This can be nonexistent despite innocence, as discussed above. Reason 2 is the desire of the media to broadcast the case. Keep in mind the news in a for-profit business. If they don't think something will bring in the views, they won't broadcast it. Combining the potentially private attitudes held by Asha's mom and dad, combined with the disappearance of a black girl from an impoverished area, it's no surprise that Asha's case wasn't picked up by CNN and the like. The tragic reality is, a black girl disappearing from an impoverished area won't freak people out as much as other cases, and won't make as much money. It is for the above reasons I think we can really discount the lack of push for media coverage of Asha's case being anything that tells us about her parents' actions. At any rate I think that the Police know way more about this case than is being relayed to us. This idea supports Asha's parents lack of media engagement - why go to the media if the police are making progress? We all need to keep in mind that the Police are tracking down enough leads to justify paying someone full time wages to cover this case. That is not inexpensive. If leads had really properly dried up, why not assign the detective to a more active case? Spent taxpayer dollars and little to show for it don't look good come audit season - especially over the course of 20 years. This considered, my assessment is that they might even be waiting for a piece of evidence that will help them nail the person who did it, and secure a conviction in court (keep in mind they can only try the perp once - if I was an investigator, I wouldn't proceed pressing charges until I knew it would 100% result in a conviction). I think they do not want to publicize anything they find, as the Barron Ramsey confession largely derailed the investigation, and as we can all agree, resulted in nothing but wasted time. I think they want to ensure that information is kept under wraps, helping discount future false confessions (if they even happen). That is why I think the case hasn't dried up as much as some people suspect. Just joined web sleuths. This has been my pet case, hence the wall of text. I'd like to commend anyone who's made it this far though my writing here (I know my writing can be a little wordy!). Any responses or comments appreciated.
With regards to the shirt and the book, I feel like they were put in the book bag to point the finger away from the perpetrator, to make seem like it wasn’t the Family
I disagree with the idea that the parents did it. I also have some thoughts on the case. Starting out, I think the parents are innocent. Here is why. First of all, I don't think they could have evaded the FBI and local police. During the early investigation, emotions would be rife, and they'd be caught up in the middle of the search. I really have difficult believing that, had they killed her, they wouldn't be found, slipping up and saying something leading investigators to them. Think about it: they've been up for hours, pretending to help look for their child, but they still wouldn't slip up, and refer to her in the past tense or something? I doubt it. Furthermore, during the later stages of the investigation (ongoing), I have difficulty believing that they'd be able to evade the spotlight, especially if information and leads are as dried up as some people seem to think. It's also worth considering that law enforcement personnel (especially FBI) spend their lives working cases like this. I'm generally a pretty skeptical person, but I'd imagine they'd be able to kind of "sniff" out suspicious characters, and just get a general gut feeling about who might be hiding something. If that was the case, and the parents were indeed guilty, why has the case not been closed by now. If it's the parents, there's exponentially less investigation to be done.
At any rate, I also think the notion that the parents not doing enough to advocate for Asha being found is a little shortsighted, especially when that is extended to implicate them in the crime. They could be private people, who either don't wait their personal lives broadcast, people who just have faith in the police, or, perhaps they know that progress is being made behind closed doors (i.e. disclosed to them, but not us). It's also worth considering why a case would have widespread media coverage to begin with. I think this can be broken down to two major reasons. Reason 1 is the desire of the parents to have the case broadcast. This can be nonexistent despite innocence, as discussed above. Reason 2 is the desire of the media to broadcast the case. Keep in mind the news in a for-profit business. If they don't think something will bring in the views, they won't broadcast it. Combining the potentially private attitudes held by Asha's mom and dad, combined with the disappearance of a black girl from an impoverished area, it's no surprise that Asha's case wasn't picked up by CNN and the like. The tragic reality is, a black girl disappearing from an impoverished area won't freak people out as much as other cases, and won't make as much money. It is for the above reasons I think we can really discount the lack of push for media coverage of Asha's case being anything that tells us about her parents' actions. At any rate I think that the Police know way more about this case than is being relayed to us. This idea supports Asha's parents lack of media engagement - why go to the media if the police are making progress? We all need to keep in mind that the Police are tracking down enough leads to justify paying someone full time wages to cover this case. That is not inexpensive. If leads had really properly dried up, why not assign the detective to a more active case? Spent taxpayer dollars and little to show for it don't look good come audit season - especially over the course of 20 years. This considered, my assessment is that they might even be waiting for a piece of evidence that will help them nail the person who did it, and secure a conviction in court (keep in mind they can only try the perp once - if I was an investigator, I wouldn't proceed pressing charges until I knew it would 100% result in a conviction). I think they do not want to publicize anything they find, as the Barron Ramsey confession largely derailed the investigation, and as we can all agree, resulted in nothing but wasted time. I think they want to ensure that information is kept under wraps, helping discount future false confessions (if they even happen). That is why I think the case hasn't dried up as much as some people suspect. Just joined web sleuths. This has been my pet case, hence the wall of text. I'd like to commend anyone who's made it this far though my writing here (I know my writing can be a little wordy!). Any responses or comments appreciated.
False sightings happen from well intentioned people all the time. How so quickly the police looked at this as runaway case has doomed it. I just can't see Asha sneaking out that early in the morning, dark, bad weather. I do hope we ultimately find out what happened
I just read online an Interview that Asha’s mother gave. In it she says that we know Asha left the house on her own free will. How does she know that? She doesn’t know ****, her and the whole Degree Family are creating a narrative that Asha ran away which is a lie. Asha I am sure was hurt by the people who were meant to protect her the most, her own parents.
I disagree with the idea that the parents did it. I also have some thoughts on the case. Starting out, I think the parents are innocent. Here is why. First of all, I don't think they could have evaded the FBI and local police. During the early investigation, emotions would be rife, and they'd be caught up in the middle of the search. I really have difficult believing that, had they killed her, they wouldn't be found, slipping up and saying something leading investigators to them. Think about it: they've been up for hours, pretending to help look for their child, but they still wouldn't slip up, and refer to her in the past tense or something? I doubt it. Furthermore, during the later stages of the investigation (ongoing), I have difficulty believing that they'd be able to evade the spotlight, especially if information and leads are as dried up as some people seem to think. It's also worth considering that law enforcement personnel (especially FBI) spend their lives working cases like this. I'm generally a pretty skeptical person, but I'd imagine they'd be able to kind of "sniff" out suspicious characters, and just get a general gut feeling about who might be hiding something. If that was the case, and the parents were indeed guilty, why has the case not been closed by now. If it's the parents, there's exponentially less investigation to be done.
At any rate, I also think the notion that the parents not doing enough to advocate for Asha being found is a little shortsighted, especially when that is extended to implicate them in the crime. They could be private people, who either don't wait their personal lives broadcast, people who just have faith in the police, or, perhaps they know that progress is being made behind closed doors (i.e. disclosed to them, but not us). It's also worth considering why a case would have widespread media coverage to begin with. I think this can be broken down to two major reasons. Reason 1 is the desire of the parents to have the case broadcast. This can be nonexistent despite innocence, as discussed above. Reason 2 is the desire of the media to broadcast the case. Keep in mind the news in a for-profit business. If they don't think something will bring in the views, they won't broadcast it. Combining the potentially private attitudes held by Asha's mom and dad, combined with the disappearance of a black girl from an impoverished area, it's no surprise that Asha's case wasn't picked up by CNN and the like. The tragic reality is, a black girl disappearing from an impoverished area won't freak people out as much as other cases, and won't make as much money. It is for the above reasons I think we can really discount the lack of push for media coverage of Asha's case being anything that tells us about her parents' actions. At any rate I think that the Police know way more about this case than is being relayed to us. This idea supports Asha's parents lack of media engagement - why go to the media if the police are making progress? We all need to keep in mind that the Police are tracking down enough leads to justify paying someone full time wages to cover this case. That is not inexpensive. If leads had really properly dried up, why not assign the detective to a more active case? Spent taxpayer dollars and little to show for it don't look good come audit season - especially over the course of 20 years. This considered, my assessment is that they might even be waiting for a piece of evidence that will help them nail the person who did it, and secure a conviction in court (keep in mind they can only try the perp once - if I was an investigator, I wouldn't proceed pressing charges until I knew it would 100% result in a conviction). I think they do not want to publicize anything they find, as the Barron Ramsey confession largely derailed the investigation, and as we can all agree, resulted in nothing but wasted time. I think they want to ensure that information is kept under wraps, helping discount future false confessions (if they even happen). That is why I think the case hasn't dried up as much as some people suspect. Just joined web sleuths. This has been my pet case, hence the wall of text. I'd like to commend anyone who's made it this far though my writing here (I know my writing can be a little wordy!). Any responses or comments appreciated.
BBMI have to say that a lot of the messages posted here are very in depth and knowledgable which has given me a lot of new insight into this case and made me reconsider my viewpoints. But I still can’t imagine a 9 year old girl leaving her home at night in a storm with no coat on her back, while at the same time casually eating candy. I think we can all agree on one thing and that is a conclusion is sorely needed in this sad story
He says he found out 4 months ago... Hmmm. So is that implying the perp is also an inmate there as well? And he says what town she is in... So she was taken out of Shelby... Hmmm.. I really hope this leads to something."Marcus Mellon wrote to the news outlet to say that the child was killed, and he knows how and where to find her.
Letter to the editor
Mellon, 53, was convicted of sex crimes against children in Cleveland County in 2014.
In his letter to The Star, Mellon says he has information and asked that it be passed along to the FBI.
Mellon asked investigators to come see him to find out what happened. Here is what he wrote:
Asha Degree has been missing for over 20 years. About four months ago I had found out her whereabouts and what had happen to her. She was killed and then took and buried. I do know how and what town she is in. I hope you get this letter and do come see me. It's on the up and up."
Inmate says he knows what happened to Asha Degree