Fleet White- Questions

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I have not read Schiller's book Perfect Murder Perfect Town but read somewhere Fleet White was upset about how he was portrayed etc- what exactly did Schiller say about Fleet in his book?

Did Fleet White testify at the Grand Jury? Is there any leaked info on his testimony?
 
I have not read Schiller's book Perfect Murder Perfect Town but read somewhere Fleet White was upset about how he was portrayed etc- what exactly did Schiller say about Fleet in his book?

Did Fleet White testify at the Grand Jury? Is there any leaked info on his testimony?

FY1234,

Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, Excerpt
At 6:00 A.M. the telephone awakened Cliff Gaston. It was Patsy Ramsey. Priscilla took the call, and within minutes the Whites were dressed and on their way to the Ramseys’ house. When they arrived, the police and John Fernie were already there. Patsy was on the floor, hysterical, and her hus- band was trying to comfort her. It was still dark outside. White told the detectives that he had been there only a few minutes when he started to search the house.

Alone, he went down to the basement, found some of the lights on, and started calling out JonBenét’s name. It was so cluttered down there—with boxes stacked everywhere and shelves overflowing with odds and ends—that he could hardly see any open spaces where she might be. He started in Burke’s train and hobby room, where he saw a suitcase sitting under a broken window. On the floor under the window, he found small pieces of glass. He placed some of them on the windowsill.

Then he moved the suitcase a few feet to get a closer look at the window. White said he was sure the win- dow was closed but unlatched. After he left the train room, he turned right, into the boiler room. At the back of the room, he said, he saw a door to what the Ramseys called the wine cellar. He turned the closed wooden latch and opened the door. The room was pitch-black, he said. He didn’t enter, and he saw nothing. When he couldn’t find a light switch, he closed the door and went back upstairs. He did not remember whether or not he relatched the door.

Later, when White saw John Fernie, he told him that a window downstairs had been punched open. The police wondered why White had not seen JonBenét’s body and later Ramsey had, since they both stood at the same spot after opening the door to the wine cellar.

At 6:45 A.M., White said, his wife called home and told her niece that JonBenét had been kidnapped. Her niece, Heather, woke the other adults in the house and told them why Fleet and Priscilla were with the Ramseys. White told the police that the Ramseys decided to wake their son, Burke, at around 7:00 and move him to his house. Fleet White and John Fernie, with Burke in hand, first picked up the Fernies’ children from their home and then took all the kids to the Whites’, where his guests looked after them. Forty-five minutes later, the two men returned to the Ramseys’. White remembered that just after 7:00, the Ramseys’ pastor, Rev. Rol Hoverstock, arrived.

Meanwhile, Ramsey had called Rod Westmoreland, his friend and Merrill Lynch broker, at home in Atlanta and told him what had happened and that he needed cash. Westmoreland started to make arrangements to transfer money from one of Ramsey’s cash management accounts—where he had over a million dollars—to a Boulder bank. Fleet White told the police that when the Lafayette branch of John Fernie’s bank opened, Fernie went there to see about collecting the ransom money from his own account. During this time Ramsey was distressed, White said; the pain he observed in John was unmistakable. He’d never seen Ram- sey this way, at the end of his rope. “He just put his head in his hands and cried and shook.”

White also told the police that he and Ramsey went down to the basement again at about 1:00 P.M. and first went into Burke’s train room, where they both looked at the broken window. Ramsey told White he had broken it to get into the house a few months earlier, when he came home one day without his house key. Then White described what had happened when John Ramsey found JonBenét’s body. He couldn’t forget seeing John standing in the doorway screaming, his back to White, the light being turned on and, when he entered the room himself, seeing Ramsey on his knees beside JonBenét. It all happened so fast, White said. He had no explanation for why he himself hadn’t seen the body on his first trip to the basement.

At about 1:30 P.M., White said, his wife called home and told her niece that JonBenét had been found dead. White also said that around 3:00 P.M., he had called Ramsey’s pilot to cancel a flight to Atlanta that John Ramsey had made arrangements for after finding his daughter’s body. White told the pilot the Ramseys might not be allowed to leave that night because of the police investigation. Around 4:00 P . M . Priscilla left the Fernies’ house, where they’d all gone with the Ramseys, and returned home. White went home later, he said, and they told their children, Daphne and Fleet Jr., that JonBenét had gone to heaven. Later that night, White stopped by the Fernies’ house on his way to Denver International Airport to pick up Jeff Ramsey, John’s brother, and Rod Westmoreland. Ramsey asked to go along. The four men were back at the Fernies’ home by around 11:00 P.M., White said.

Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, Excerpt
What Patsy’s sister Polly noticed at her parents’ home was that Fleet White was quarreling angrily with her brother-in-law John. Patsy was standing to one side of them while Fleet hovered over John, telling him he had to go back to Boulder and help the police. It was wrong for him to hire his own investigators and criminal attorneys, said Fleet. His job was to cooperate with the police, not stonewall them. John’s face reddened. It was obvious that he was embarrassed to have this conversation in front of his wife and family. But Fleet kept at him. What was this he’d heard about John contacting CNN for an interview? His daughter had just been buried! How could Patsy and John even think about going on television? Even if they wanted to respond to rumors that were going around, a TV appearance was unthinkable. By that point, Fleet had his hands at John’s face, but John wasn’t saying much. Then the room fell silent. The two friends separated, knowing they would never speak to each other again.

Fleet White’s behavior seemed odd to some of the Ramseys’ friends too. John Fernie felt uncomfortable speaking to Fleet, who seemed too focused on John’s behavior. Others at the house felt that Fleet’s behavior was so out of character for him that maybe he was involved somehow in JonBenét’s death. Nedra, however, thought it was silly to judge anyone’s conduct as inappropriate at a time like this. Who could act normally under these circumstances?

Yes Fleet White testified to the GJ, more here:
https://www.westword.com/news/jonb...ot-derailed-and-why-it-still-matters-6053856

Podcast here, towards the end, the White's suggest reading Kolar's book to find out who killed JonBenet, e.g. avoiding litigation and hinting bigtime that the case is RDI !
http://peterboyles.podbean.com/e/peter-boyles-show-dec-18-2014-hr-4/

More links, some to Kolar:
https://www.facebook.com/foreign.faction/posts?_fb_noscript=1

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According to Stephen Singular, Patsy told Pam Griffin that the Secret Santa was Fleet White. And Pam Griffin testified to this during the grand jury investigation.

Also, I don't take Kolar or Steve Thomas seriously. part of the cover-up to shift the blame off John (or off both John and Fleet White) and onto Patsy or Burke. Thomas and Kolar were incredibly sexist and biased - or paid off by John.
 
FY1234,

Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, Excerpt


Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, Excerpt


Yes Fleet White testified to the GJ, more here:
https://www.westword.com/news/jonbenet-ramsey-how-the-investigation-got-derailed-and-why-it-still-matters-6053856

Podcast here, towards the end, the White's suggest reading Kolar's book to find out who killed JonBenet, e.g. avoiding litigation and hinting bigtime that the case is RDI !
http://peterboyles.podbean.com/e/peter-boyles-show-dec-18-2014-hr-4/

More links, some to Kolar:
https://www.facebook.com/foreign.faction/posts?_fb_noscript=1

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But if Fleet White and John did it together, which is what I suspect, then Fleet White in my opinion shouldn't be taken seriously. Of course, White wants to shift the blame onto Patsy and Burke, and wants to portray it as an accident.
 
But if Fleet White and John did it together, which is what I suspect, then Fleet White in my opinion shouldn't be taken seriously. Of course, White wants to shift the blame onto Patsy and Burke, and wants to portray it as an accident.

PremeditatedCrime,
Yet there is no forensic evidence to link Fleet White to JonBenet's bedroom or the wine-cellar.


Whereas the Ramsey's are linked by various forensic markers.

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PremeditatedCrime,
Yet there is no forensic evidence to link Fleet White to JonBenet's bedroom or the wine-cellar.


Whereas the Ramsey's are linked by various forensic markers.

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Actually, there is some evidence. Plus the Grand Jury testimony from Pam Griffin that Fleet White was the Secret Santa. However, that could just be John Ramsey's framing of Fleet White.
 
Actually, there is some evidence. Plus the Grand Jury testimony from Pam Griffin that Fleet White was the Secret Santa. However, that could just be John Ramsey's framing of Fleet White.

PremeditatedCrime,
Sure, what Pam Griffin has to say is just hearsay and open to interpretation.

John Ramsey flung Fleet White under the investigation bus with all his allusions targeting Fleet White.

This included having him interviewed by his attorney in an attempt to frame the legal discourse.

An absence of forensic evidence means as distinct to the Ramsey's, there is nothing to link Fleet White to the crime-scene.

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For FW to have been involved with the murder, either he was in the R's residence Christmas night, with or without their knowledge, and then managed to sneak back to his home; or JB was killed at some unknown location, and then moved without detection into the WC. All this accomplished without FW leaving any fingerprints or DNA. Somehow the RN must be fitted into the scenario.
 
For FW to have been involved with the murder, either he was in the R's residence Christmas night, with or without their knowledge, and then managed to sneak back to his home; or JB was killed at some unknown location, and then moved without detection into the WC. All this accomplished without FW leaving any fingerprints or DNA. Somehow the RN must be fitted into the scenario.

Fleet White was suspected of removing evidence. He was somehow involved, at least in the coverup.

Fleet was extremely anxious to endorse the theories that Patsy or Burke did it, and that it was an accidental murder. He should have remained neutral.

Maybe Fleet White was being framed. But I think he was involved, at least in the coverup.

It's amazing how people give John and Fleet a pass, and shift the blame onto Patsy and Burke.
 
PremeditatedCrime,

Most definitely I am not giving JR a pass.
If FW were covering up for JR, that should indicate that there were some prior involvement between him and JB.
 

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