id guess not at this early point in the search. Cadaver dogs are waay more expensive than scent dogs and not that easy to get on short notice.
If the FBI can't get you a cadaver dog then what the heck use are they?
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id guess not at this early point in the search. Cadaver dogs are waay more expensive than scent dogs and not that easy to get on short notice.
I can’t imagine the battery she’d need for 3 days working on editing videos.
They could barely keep their phones charged.
People living this lifestyle, usually have ways to deal with charging/power concerns. Also, even if he wasn’t near the van - we have no idea how close she was to it.
I’ve hitched rides in the backcountry before. Usually just people passing through pick you up.I cant believe people are out there in nowhere picking people up and hitching rides. Is there a time warp they drive though to get to these awful decisions?
Websleuths used to have some Search and Rescue members, I hope they join the thread soon.Could be, or over a cliff.
SAR in these rugged parts are experts though....there might be signs, broken twigs, pushed over shrubs or whatnot. This guy had no equipment with him. He's not an experienced outdoorsman or mountain man. Nor hunter likely. He's a kid. I have confidence that SAR will find her, if the can determine the general area.
At least I hope so.
I can’t imagine the battery she’d need for 3 days working on editing videos.
They could barely keep their phones charged.
I am thinking they planned an early morning hike up the Snake River. Somewhere along the way, he either ditches her or kills her, he continues up the Snake River to the showers, and hitchhikes back to the van.
I'm not discounting a push or a drowning or any other method for that matter. Nor am I making any judgement about an accidental or premeditated death.
That said, as hard as it to hide a body, it's harder to carry or move one.
I really believe he was just checking to make sure she was still hidden before he left town, knowing that he would not be able to do that again. I believe that what had transpired between them, happened earlier.
I cant believe people are out there in nowhere picking people up and hitching rides. Is there a time warp they drive though to get to these awful decisions?
they would need a jackery or something like it with a folding panel since they didn't have one on their van. Just fine for lap tops, cell phones etc. Going to need some real solar or generator for cooking, climate control, ice box and things like that. They clearly not that far into the van life.We manage on a Yeti 200 with a solar panel. They could have made it work with a similar setup.
Kind of reminds me of the Phoenix police officer who was hiking with Angela Tremonte (without water, just a few weeks ago, very very hot). She was later found dead (waiting on autopsy results personally) -- and he continued the hike to later take an Uber (???) back to the vehicle after he claims he became lost. Contradictory stories also came out whether he'd hiked this route before (incl. a claim the fire department later rescinded about how he hiked the trail all the time). The Uber ride seemed like such a weird thing to do (just turn around and hike exactly back? There was a bachelor party all on vacation that managed back just fine and saw you several times...) So, IMO, a quick ride with strangers COULD be a decent attempt at an alibi all things considered.I find it hard to believe that he would grab a ride for an alibi. It's so random that he'd just hope someone would pick him up and remember him. I doubt he was doing that much planning ahead. MOO of course
If the FBI can't get you a cadaver dog then what the heck use are they?
I don’t think he had to hide her body at all. If you recall the post GP made about climbing out on a dangerous ledge behind the famous arch in Moab they took risks. IMO they were hiking and did something beyond their skill level. Either he pushed her off a mountain ridge during an argument or she fell.True. True. I was thinking more along the lines of move her to bury her.
If she’s deceased, her body wasn’t in the van, otherwise her scent would’ve been picked up and he would’ve been in an interrogation room already.
Could be, or over a cliff.
SAR in these rugged parts are experts though....there might be signs, broken twigs, pushed over shrubs or whatnot. This guy had no equipment with him. He's not an experienced outdoorsman or mountain man. Nor hunter likely. He's a kid. I have confidence that SAR will find her, if the can determine the general area.
At least I hope so.
If the FBI can't get you a cadaver dog then what the heck use are they?
If the FBI can't get you a cadaver dog then what the heck use are they?
@PommyMommy said to go to the post number, click on it and select copy all. I hope that I have that right.I forget how to reply to a post in a closed thread. can someone help please?
One of their (I think his) early instagrams showed a solar panel, I'm assuming they had that and an inverter for charging.I can’t imagine the battery she’d need for 3 days working on editing videos.
They could barely keep their phones charged.
My supposition starts with the idea that they went off some distance to get a perfect Instagram sunset picture, not to close to be around a bunch of people but not so far that they couldn't get back before full dark. And then stuff went down hill fast. By the time he has carried her away from the spot and ditched her he has gotten himself lost. Might not have to go very far to get caught out after full dark and not be able to find your way back. Or heck maybe he just ran out into the wilderness after he realized what he did.
power banks, most of these van people like the jackery though i don't know what kinda van build they really had.
I can’t imagine the battery she’d need for 3 days working on editing videos.
They could barely keep their phones charged.