A still (presumably of DR’s actual vehicle) I pulled from a tv news report previously when looking at the wheel arch trim - looks to have standard road tyres fitted.
You are quickly getting up to speed!!!!No I am not "Will", I went on Sat, September 25th 2021
I might know what you're saying about it being rolled onto its passenger side, in this picture it shows some kind of rollover marks on the driver side.
This picture shows a smashed front fender some scrapes on the driver side pillar without much damage to the rest of the side
post picture It also shows what looks like the passenger airbag deployed and the rear removable top/hatch circled in red....from what i learned you need a key to unlock the top to be able to take it out, there is one in front and one in the back.
Crash #2 is I assume the ravine, if McGrath analysis holds. Buckeye PD is now saying they are bringing in a technical expert to re examine. (Yesterdays News conference reporting per local Channel 12
As I understand it the EDR counts “ignition cycles,” adding one to the tally every time the box is powered up. This happens when the vehicle ignition is turned on (but the engine not necessarily started) and also each time the box is powered up in order to extract data. Each EDR report resulting from a collision or significant event includes the ignition cycle count.I guess I’m just not knowledgeable enough about these things… but for whatever reason I don’t understand the Jeep’s “46 starts” after the initial crash.
Are they saying Daniel (or whomever) restarted the Jeep/turned the key on 46 different times after the vehicle wrecked the 1st time? As in trying to start it or as in actually starting it?? OR Does this mean something different entirely? Again, forgive me of any ignorance with this matter.
Crash 1 (unknown but presumably 11 miles from crash site, unless driven in circles after crash.
11 miles by Cactus Access road to Sun Valley puts him in front of Tartesso or Del Web Festival developments. However if crash that deployed airbags was at 30 MPH, that does not put him on Sun Valley Parkway (55-60 Mph). Going south and utilizing 315th Ave. puts him on Salome-Tonapah Rd. or in the middle of Tartesso subdivision. I took a quick drive through the main route in Tartesso and didn't notice anything. I have requested the June 23rd Incident report from Buckeye through public records law..
That was my understanding, not really lifted and not off road tires. I do think it is 4wd standard.
This photo shows what appears to be extensive “stove in” damage to the driver’s side wing ahead of the door, including extensive paint loss, a gouge mark running the length of the wing and a point on the leading edge of the driver’s door where whatever caused the gouge mark has snagged it.
Looking at it in conjunction with the police photo, it appears that the damage continues along the driver’s side, in a curve below the door handles. From that (if correct) my impression would be that the driver’s side scraped alongside something very heavy/solid which had one or two short but (again very solid) solid projections and the vehicle rode up on the driver’s side as it moved forward in contact with the object.
Thanks for that EDR Overview paper. Yes, nothing that converts analog into digital can be 100% accurate, but the CANbus system does have a general accuracy of 96% or better. Fully agree with the takeaway about combining data from the system with actual observations from the scene - for instance if two vehicles doing 30mph crash head on the actual impact speed is 60mph although they will both have recorded 30 mph.
Just to lob one in from “left field” - what’s your best estimate of the diameter of that well?I have pictures I would like to post so they wont go to waste, people could get a sense or view of the remoteness of the location he was working at and the isolation of where the vehicle was found that raises a lot of questions.
went in this gate Saturday Sept, 25th 2021 couple minutes after 8am and came out about 1:30pm that same gate covering about 14miles on my motorcycle and some walking(i do keep track of my miles since the bike is not equipped with a fuel gauge)
My bike at Daniels worksite according to the info provided
yes i am a proud owner ;]
Daniels worksite
picture of one of two hills i seen that could get you to the location where the jeep was found, the other hill is right next to the electrical facility that is a little more friendly but did not venture in..
In 354 thank you for posting a couple of stills from a video, one showing a close up of the impact on the drivers side. I wonder what kind of object would make that sort of round dent in the glass in just that one place plus the two little nicks in the A pillar? Those two nicks were something as hard or harder than the pillar, and there is little or no collateral scratching around the oval shaped windshield impact. Plus we have this 'paint transfer' thing going on elsewhere in the thread, and others have questioned the damage to the drivers side as well.
Tbh I’ve gone from thinking something like a crowbar/wrecking bar, to truck and now back towards wrecking bar/jack causing initial windscreen and pillar damage with other driver’s side damage resulting from a second incident (possibly collision with a transmission tower). Just to add re the driver’s side damage - to cause the ‘ride up’ along the driver’s side as a result of contact with a stationary object, my impression is that the Jeep would have needed to turn in towards it as it passed, suggestion deliberate intention (MOO).
Again just to add re a truck collision scenario - while I did think that some designs of metal truck bumper/fender could cause the driver’s side damage, my instinct is that the mirror would be too high to impact the Jeep windshield. Also, I think there would need to be an extra element of an altercation turned bad following any such collision for it not to be reported.
Could there be 1 crash?, wheels spin for the equivalent of 11 miles, then another sensor trips and records a second "crash" that deploys the airbags?
