Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #56

[Keyedin]

I also find this odd. Here are some things that might be accomplished by his physical presence in the reserve:

For LE:

• His absence elsewhere
• A chance to talk with him separately, away from his wife. (Did his lawyer accompany him to the reserve?)
• A chance to view his reactions
• An opportunity to say that they are doing everything they can to search for BL in the reserve.

For CL:

• An opportunity to look for BL
• An opportunity to show that he's looking for BL, whatever he may know about BL's actual whereabouts, thus gaining public sympathy
• Possibly a distraction from something going on at the house or elsewhere.

JMO

Question about attorney accompanying CL BBM - I wondered this same thing. CL left his home in his truck alone and returned in his truck alone. There's been no mention of SB escorting him to the reserve. What attorney sends their client off with ALL of the agencies that have been trying to question them with NO REPRESENTATION?

Attorney input - could there have been an agreement made prior to CL's joining the search that said any statements made unrelated to identifying trails, markers, etc., could not be used later? To me, that seems highly unlikely.

 

[JuneRose]

Oh the times i have told my kids, i dont have money for that......didnt mean i was broke!!

 

[Satchie]

The fact that 911 was called multiple times on the 10th and 11th tells me that things were reaching a boiling point in the Laundrie household.

The information about those calls does not state they came 'from' the home, the calls were about that address. IMO, most likely it was GB family members calling in about Brian and the van being there, without Gabby, asking for a welfare check or something.

 

[Deleted member 222031]

I agree. And while I am not too sure Rose is always reliable in what she says, her report of GP spending some nights at her house is probably true. In this article linked below she says it was "7 to 10 times" the year she knew her. I wonder if GP let the Laundries know when she wasn't coming home at night? My bet is no. Rose also says she spent the night at G&B's house. I wonder if the L's invited her? I kind of doubt it. My point is the parents and G&B may have lived relatively independent lives (at least as independent as possible under one shared roof.) And as you said in the quoted post, we don't know either when G&B switched from being the sister's roommates to being the parents'.

Brian Laundrie was controlling, had 'episodes': Gabby Petito pal

JMO

I read that GP was working 50 hours a week at Taco Bell before they hit the road. It makes me wonder if in addition to earning more, she wanted to spend as much time away from that home as possible. When Cassie's family moved out, perhaps the parents weren't thrilled to have GP there. Pure speculation but I don't think BL was as invested in van life GP was.

She purchased the vehicle and did the trip research. BL was up for the van prep and the fun but not the work involved to gain income from vlogging IMO. Were his parents in favor of this trip? I think maybe not.

We hear about communications while traveling between Gabby & her parents but not Brian and his. I'm curious about that.

Anything the FBI can do to increase their contact with the parents is good. I think we can get a break in the case that way. Getting the Dad out and interacting is promising.

Regardless of their lawyer's advice, the L's can help the FBI if they decide to for whatever reason - offer of immunity or whatever.

Until the L family retains criminal legal counsel & refuses contact, the FBI should seek out any way to interact with them face to face.

JMHO

 

[MayT]

He does look sad to me, though I wouldn’t read into it that he witnessed something at the reserve. I’m sure none of this makes him happy. I’m sure they are anxious, scared, and never expected this to go the way it has. MOO

eta I don’t feel pity for them. But I can understand they probably feel quite stressed.

Where was this image of CL after the search posted?

 

[putnam6]

Weird, when would that have been? At night when he didn’t come home? I find it hard to believe his dad would go searching around a flooded swampy park for hours in the dark.

Who knows what the family dynamics were?

but I could see a caring father doing this, I could also see a father urged by his wife doing this also. By this time they were getting flooded with calls from the Petito's and LE, he might have wanted to try and end the mess. It could have been his point of realization. So many possibilities.

 

[LAhiker]

Where was this image of CL after the search posted?

I think the image was removed by the moderators.

JMO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I also find this odd. Here are some things that might be accomplished by his physical presence in the reserve:

For LE:

• His absence elsewhere
• A chance to talk with him separately, away from his wife. (Did his lawyer accompany him to the reserve?)
• A chance to view his reactions
• An opportunity to say that they are doing everything they can to search for BL in the reserve.

For CL:

• An opportunity to look for BL
• An opportunity to show that he's looking for BL, whatever he may know about BL's actual whereabouts, thus gaining public sympathy
• Possibly a distraction from something going on at the house or elsewhere.

JMO

Or to isolate. A “verified insider/professional” could call Brian’s mom on the phone where she could speak. Alone…

 

[Sassafrass]

Could have been that he was extremely stressed/mad about the media trying to follow him home & his (& the FBI’s) attempt to lose them was unsuccessful. JMO.

I cannot imagine that there are too many days these days that the Ls are feeling upbeat and carefree. Regardless of their role or knowledge of anything, I wouldn't expect them to have any expressions but some version of downcast these last weeks.

 

[LAhiker]

For LE:
Keep LE from possibly getting killed from a possible "cray cray" BL as they close in on him - Let dad do the "bringing him in peacefully".

Keep BL from suicide. They want him alive.

For CL: He could keep his son alive and from committing suicide or hurting others.

The first LE reason might work if they knew BL was there.

As for the second LE reason and the first CL one -- has CL publicly called for his son to turn himself in?

 

[Claire182]

The arrest warrant is for charging him for using her card after her death but it surely doesn't mean he is guilty of it. And it surely doesn't mean that there isn't another explanation for it other than "he killed her then stole her card to withdraw money" . JMO

Goes back to my original point though, he left her without a bank card or the van, so to me still negligent.

 

[moonlessnight]

It sounded to me like a shelter was involved in providing the hotel for the night. Can't remember the name but BL said on video "if ______ can get me a hotel". I don't think he paid for the hotel on 8/12. Doesn't me he didn't have the money for it tho.

Could be. But obviously they DID have the money on the 12th to pay for a hotel room. Maybe they (or more likely B) didn't want to spend money for that but they had it. They had to have had it-- they planned to be traveling for over 2 1/2 more months...they were barely a month into their trip. They couldn't have been out of money so soon. Skip a few restaurant meals, grill a little less store-bought salmon at the camp site if necessary but they had the money.
JMO

 

[nocommoncents]

I don't tubi

Well, as I said, unless they thought that he would run away and never be caught, they knew that eventually he would be questioned and possibly arrested (wtl fly or rightly). That's the only way it's about their son's life. Otherwise it's about evidence and opportunity to maximize time for him to get out of Dodge.

Again, it's one thing to have a long conversation sharing everything they know (or don't know), but another to respond to tell them you can't speak to them - much like handing LE your lawyer's card. Perfectly within their legal rights to ignore them, but, again, I was speaking morally. It's a lot of pain to inflict for little if any legitimate legal benefit.

I don't think we're in disagreement here.

 

[builder]

I have another take on why the FBI or LE whoever was following CL today blocked the media from following CL home. That entire out of the way drive was for a reason and maybe its because BL is hiding out in a house in one of the places they all drove past. CL is used to being followed so it doesnt make sense that it would bother him today. We are missing something here. We need to look for the hidden clues in that route to his house from the preserve. That was an odd diversion for some reason.
MOO

 

[Nikynoo]

But unless he was responsible, he couldn't have known she was dead. Why would he hire a lawyer? Why wouldn't he have searched for her?

In the hypothetical situation was are speculating about - it could be that the P's said B was the last person to see her, and that's why he lawyered up. Or, they got advice from the lawyer and he advised them of a strategy to deal with it (either rightly or wrongly). However, I think if B knew he wasn't the last person to see Gabby - he would have said so.

 

[TL4S]

The first LE reason might work if they knew BL was there.

As for the second LE reason and the first CL one -- has CL publicly called for his son to turn himself in?

Not that I'm aware of, but SB said in a statement that the parents hope the FBI finds their son. Anyone have that link?

 

[Sassafrass]

On Aug 12th they didn't have money for a hotel room for the night. Five days later they had money for a five night stay and a round trip flight to FL. I keep hearing that line from Springsteen's Atlantic City: "So, honey, last night, I met this guy, and I'm gonna do a little favor for him..." I can't shake the feeling that there are more hands in all of this.

On August 12, they (was it BL only? Doesn't matter) said they didn't have hotel money. But as situations change, sometimes needs must. Or the hotel stay was already budgeted. Or covered by parebts. Or any number of things.

 

[BUF]

Here is the latest from the reserve. Christopher Laundrie is here with police. Former FBI Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer also answers some of your questions about what is happening in this video – how unusual it is – what she thinks is happening– could this get the dad to talk, etc.

Video at link

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1446161393221242887

 

[EvieIvyOver]

I find it a hard stretch that not one of them would have returned a call out of courtesy, if nothing else, if they didn't have reason to believe that Brian had done something they would need to be very careful about.

As a parent, I believe I'd have called my kid's bluff if he came back solo, told me whatever, even said "please don't talk to them/bad breakup," but then I started getting contacted by his gf's family.

At a minimum - hey, Bri, this is rude. I'm not doing this to these people. Tell me what's what or I'm getting on the phone with them right nah.

5 minutes later: where the HECK is that idiot attorney's number? Geez, I hate that guy, but we've got no choice at this point. Brian, go to your room. Now!

But, as far as I am aware, we have absolutely no idea what Brian told his family as to why Gabby didn't come back with him. They were operating off of whatever that was, and we can't assume what they did or didn't know, and project them as terrible people. Can we--should we? One of Brian's friends said that Brian and Gabby"s relationship was full of drama, to the point it sounded like he was tired of hearing about it. Maybe that's the case for the parents, as well.

 

[Bluebythec]

For LE:
Keep LE from possibly getting killed from a possible "cray cray" BL as they close in on him - Let dad do the "bringing him in peacefully".

Keep BL from suicide. They want him alive.

For CL: He could keep his son alive and from committing suicide or hurting others.

Aa I said in my original post though, if they were acting on those assumptions doesn't it seem awfully careless to bring CL and his escort in there to possibly face a "cray-cray" with absolutely no protection? What if he just started shooting? They don't bring a civilian in to an uncontrolled environment like that in anything I've ever seen. It's not like when someone's holed up in an apartment and they get mom on the bull horn to plead with them. It just seems like they'd be open to all sorts of liability if something happened to CL. JMO