Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #56

[Warwick7]

We don't know if he was still in possession of the card. He could have withdrawn the money with her knowledge then gave her the card back and said I'm going to drive the van back now. She had plans to meet up with Rose remember? Perhaps Rose was going to meet up with her and they will complete the trip together at the godmother's house in Oregon . We don't know so many things.

It is well established BL didn't withdrawn the money with her knowledge then gave her the card back.

BL has been charged with bank-card fraud. A federal grand jury indictment states he withdrew or spent more than $1,000 using a Capitol One card after Gabby Petito went missing. Which is well documented here on WS.

 

[SouthAussie]

We don't know if he was still in possession of the card. He could have withdrawn the money with her knowledge then gave her the card back and said I'm going to drive the van back now. She had plans to meet up with Rose remember? Perhaps Rose was going to meet up with her and they will complete the trip together at the godmother's house in Oregon . We don't know so many things.

I think the federal charge of 'intent to fraud' is based on the fact that BL crossed state lines with Gabby's card, isn't it? And used it along the way.

" ... and by such conduct obtained things of value aggregating to $1,000 or more during that period, which affected interstate commerce."

https://twitter.com/cbenavidesTV/status/1441158734487638019/photo/2

Although we know VERY little, I think some things can be deduced from the warrant and other official sources.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Is this in anyway related?
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https://twitter.com/MeganMyersNews/status/1446201611798388737?s=20

 

[b2alicia]

Former assistant FBI director Chris Swecker expresses confidence in manhunt for Brian Laundrie
Former assistant FBI director Chris Swecker joined Fox News to discuss the search for Brian Laundrie.

"I know the FBI is is pulling out all the stops. They're in a full court press here trying to find him," Swecker said. "And they will find him. With the help of the U.S. Marshals and a nationwide dragnet, an international dragnet. I have every confidence they're going to find him."

Swecker also touched on the homicide investigation, saying he would like to know more about it amid mostly silence from the FBI on its progress.

He also expressed skepticism of reports of a campsite that was found in a swampy Florida reserve Laundrie was reportedly hiking in before his disappearance, saying the terrain and conditions in the swamp were too difficult to manage for more than a few days.
Gabby Petito: Brian Laundrie’s father leaves Florida park after flagging son's haunts: LIVE UPDATES

I love the puppy photo on your profile!

 

[Nikynoo]

The arrest warrant is for charging him for using her card after her death but it surely doesn't mean he is guilty of it. And it surely doesn't mean that there isn't another explanation for it other than "he killed her then stole her card to withdraw money" . JMO

Is there a copy of the arrest warrant somewhere?
ETA - I have found the arrest warrant - is there a public copy of the grand jury indictment?

 

[Keyedin]

I have another take on why the FBI or LE whoever was following CL today blocked the media from following CL home. That entire out of the way drive was for a reason and maybe its because BL is hiding out in a house in one of the places they all drove past. CL is used to being followed so it doesnt make sense that i would bother him today. We are missing something here. We need to look for the hidden clues in that route to his house.
MOO

They stopped briefly in that residential area and the black SUV pulled up beside CL's truck. I assumed they were talking back and forth for a moment. Then CL pulled out in front of the SUV and they continued on their route. Not long after that stop, the vehicles parted ways. I wondered if CL perhaps pointed the officer/agent in the direction of something/someone of importance.

 

[Karen MacLeod]

Here is the latest from the reserve. Christopher Laundrie is here with police. Former FBI Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer also answers some of your questions about what is happening in this video – how unusual it is – what she thinks is happening– could this get the dad to talk, etc.

Video at link

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1446161393221242887

I think there is more to this story than they are revealing

 

[Sassafrass]

That’s very interesting. CaL made it very clear how she feels about that attorney & that he does not represent her & in fact has thrown her under the bus (according to her & IMO I agree). I don’t think he should be speaking from the “entire” Laundrie family - he doesn’t specifically say CaL but that implies her. But I’m not an attorney & don’t know how their code of ethics - or whatever they call it…in engineering it’s a code of ethics - applies here. She def made it clear he doesn’t speak for her & in fact has spoken against her in her opinion. This is all JMO.

Call it #457425789 in the list of ethically dodgy things SB has said and done here.

 

[Karen MacLeod]

But, as far as I am aware, we have absolutely no idea what Brian told his family as to why Gabby didn't come back with him. They were operating off of whatever that was, and we can't assume what they did or didn't know, and project them as terrible people. Can we--should we? One of Brian's friends said that Brian and Gabby"s relationship was full of drama, to the point it sounded like he was tired of hearing about it. Maybe that's the case for the parents, as well.

And maybe we will eventually get the whole scoop on what he did tell them....when they decide to come clean

 

[oviedo]

Truly curious what that 911 call from the Laundries on the 10th was about.

It’d be interesting to see if it was them complaining about harassment from the Petitos/Schmidt’s wondering where GP was, or if they were calling to report GP missing themselves.

I’m leaning toward anything other than the latter.

I thought there was a third 911 call on the 10th?
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There were at least two calls placed on Sept. 10, one just before 4 p.m. and one just before 6:30 p.m. And three more were placed on Sept. 11, the day Petito’s mother, Nichole Schmidt, filed a missing persons’ report with the Suffolk County Police Department in New York. Police returned on Sept. 14, 15 and 16 and twice on Sept. 17, records show.

The records do not indicate who placed the 911 calls and all summaries have been redacted – only providing a brief description, such as "Problem Settled," "No Police Action Needed" or "Report Submitted."

The most recent records provided by police were from about 5:10 p.m. on Monday, with calls earlier in the day at 8:06 a.m., 8:28 a.m., 1:29 p.m., 2:45 p.m. and 4:13 p.m., records show. Apparent reasons for the 46 calls include "Disturbance," "Follow Up/Investigation," "Patrol Check" and "Public Service." "

Brian Laundrie case: Police answered dozens of 911 calls at home since day before Gabby Petito disappearance

 

[SouthAussie]

I read that GP was working 50 hours a week at Taco Bell before they hit the road. It makes me wonder if in addition to earning more, she wanted to spend as much time away from that home as possible. When Cassie's family moved out, perhaps the parents weren't thrilled to have GP there.

Gabby's mother has given the impression that BL's parents cared well for Gabby ... BL's mum knitting her a sweater among other things.

Though, if Gabby and BL still fought as much as their high school friend (Ben?) and vlogger friend (Chen?) say they did, I could see that getting old really fast for anyone who shared their home with them.

 

[rleigh123]

You didn't ask a question but I'll attempt anyway...
UBM
In this situation, how you feel about yourself is not the priority. Gabby was already gone. ......

I apologize if I wasn't clear. I wasn't making how I "feel about myself" a priority. I was conveying that IMO it would be abnormal, immoral, etc, if I did this, and also if others did this.

As for Gabby already being gone, did you mean if Ls knew that? IMO it would be even worse if they did.

....... Her parents were not going to get relief from anything the Ls could tell them. They had to choose between their own child and answers for the GP family. It may be ugly but it's not a difficult decision.

IMO it doesn't matter if "her parents were not going to get relief from anything the Ls could tell them."
MOO It's not a valid reason to ignore a family desperately looking for info on their missing daughter who lives with Ls.

 

[putnam6]

Goes back to my original point though, he left her without a bank card or the van, so to me still negligent.

Just hypothetically and I in no way think this happened, but

Theoretically, she could have met up with friends, after a day or so he tired of them, and wanted to split. Gabby didn't want to, they argued perhaps he said he is leaving she said she isn't, I'm staying with them. He said you can't leave me hanging. She may have threatened this earlier. Brian alluded to this fear in Moab.

Obviously, MOO

 

[Karen MacLeod]

Aa I said in my original post though, if they were acting on those assumptions doesn't it seem awfully careless to bring CL and his escort in there to possibly face a "cray-cray" with absolutely no protection? What if he just started shooting? They don't bring a civilian in to an uncontrolled environment like that in anything I've ever seen. It's not like when someone's holed up in an apartment and they get mom on the bull horn to plead with them. It just seems like they'd be open to all sorts of liability if something happened to CL. JMO

Exactly, great points

 

[Satchie]

But unless he was responsible, he couldn't have known she was dead. Why would he hire a lawyer? Why wouldn't he have searched for her?

I think we have to get used to this becoming a more common strategy, it is being spread widely throughout the culture that no one should talk to police without a lawyer present, and the lawyer, when you contact them, will say: do not talk to police, period.

There is widespread distrust of police and there have been cases of wrongful conviction, and these are being leveraged to promote this idea very widely. Not surprisingly, it's a very popular idea with lawyers, that way they get paid every single time the police want to interview a witness.

IMO it's all part and parcel of the continuing move toward individualistic values and away from community values.

 

[kimch33kim]

It is well established BL didn't withdrawn the money with her knowledge then gave her the card back.

BL has been charged with bank-card fraud. A federal grand jury indictment states he withdrew or spent more than $1,000 using a Capitol One card after Gabby Petito went missing. Which is well documented here on WS.

I am well aware of the charges thank you. So...if there is reasonable explanation for why he left with the card while she was alive that means he is guilty of theft which is far from murder. We don't know anything about the bank account and if he deposited money into her account before or shared money.
I'm just trying to look at this unbiased as possible as difficult as it is.

 

[nocommoncents]

In the hypothetical situation was are speculating about - it could be that the P's said B was the last person to see her, and that's why he lawyered up. Or, they got advice from the lawyer and he advised them of a strategy to deal with it (either rightly or wrongly). However, I think if B knew he wasn't the last person to see Gabby - he would have said so.

None of that plays unless she was the target of a random stranger murder, which is rare in itself, much less in such a remote place. *right after he last saw her

 

[r131313]

I think we have to get used to this becoming a more common strategy, it is being spread widely throughout the culture that no one should talk to police without a lawyer present, and the lawyer, when you contact them, will say: do not talk to police, period.

There is widespread distrust of police and there have been cases of wrongful conviction, and these are being leveraged to promote this idea very widely. Not surprisingly, it's a very popular idea with lawyers, that way they get paid ever single time the police want to interview a witness.

IMO it's all part and parcel of the continuing move toward individualistic values and away from community values.

This is the same advice lawyers have given since police and lawyers have existed. It's good advice.

 

[Sassafrass]

But, as far as I am aware, we have absolutely no idea what Brian told his family as to why Gabby didn't come back with him. They were operating off of whatever that was, and we can't assume what they did or didn't know, and project them as terrible people. Can we--should we? One of Brian's friends said that Brian and Gabby"s relationship was full of drama, to the point it sounded like he was tired of hearing about it. Maybe that's the case for the parents, as well.

I was clearly (I thought) hypothesizing a scenario favorable to the Ls and saying what I would do even in that situation where my kid had told me nothing truly alarming, but then I started getting calls and texts from my kid's gf's parents. It would be normal to reply, unless (assuming I'm not just a jerk) my child had either told me something tgat had already caused me to clam up (on lawyer advice or otherwise), or had asked me to stay out of an innocuous situation. Once the calls/texts come in, I would be back trying to have a talk with my kid, and absent a really good reason (say, one that prompted me to call a lawyer), I would then be calling them back.

 

[Skigirl]

It sounded to me like a shelter was involved in providing the hotel for the night. Can't remember the name but BL said on video "if ______ can get me a hotel". I don't think he paid for the hotel on 8/12. Doesn't me he didn't have the money for it tho.

On the second body cam video, at around 18:30-19:00, the officers were talking over options with BL.

Officer 1: You said you can't afford a hotel?
Officer 2: No?
Brian: Um... v-v-v-very little money we have, for sure.

Then they went on to discuss Seek Haven (a DV organization) and the fact that Seek Haven would get him a hotel room for the night and take care of his transportation in the morning. BL nodded along with the plan, and that's how he ended up in a free hotel for the night.

Given what we know about Gabby's hotel stay and his plane ticket, it doesn't seem like he was telling the truth, but he definitely implied to the officers that they could not afford a hotel room.