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With a possible sexual aspect to the SL mystery...
Isn't it interesting that SLs friend for many years, described in Stephens book as her closest friend and confidant, herself went on to become a leading UK media expert celeb and authority on many aspects of sex!?
Books, TV appearances readily giving us her expertise, on a topic most of us would know just the basics!
A coincidence or matter of course?
I tend to agree, my sole purpose when I started looking at this (well over 2 years ago now) was to try and bring closure for the Lamplugh family. SJL’s brother really struck a cord with me, he’s such a nice guy and at this time in his life would appreciate being able to put Suzy to rest.Without a chance discovery of a body now, I don't think this mystery will ever be solved.
I'm sure though, over these pages we've sailed very, very close to what was going on in July '86. Perhaps in to terroritory and reasoning that the Met have never even considered.
Police incompetenance, failings and genuine mistakes, has meant a vast amount of money has been spent on this case, with virtually nothing to show for it.
We'll probably have a glut of rehash from tv and the tabloids as JCs seeks to exit prison.
Bottom line is, you do have to feel for SLs siblings, nephews and nieces who probably still believe that she just headed off from Shorrolds Rd with a bogus house buyer 'Mr Kipper' that day, never to be seen again.
They've been failed and denied justice for their loved one .....
I tend to agree, my sole purpose when I started looking at this (well over 2 years ago now) was to try and bring closure for the Lamplugh family. SJL’s brother really struck a cord with me, he’s such a nice guy and at this time in his life would appreciate being able to put Suzy to rest.
DV showed the errors made by the Met and highlighted another possibility, while this may seem remote, the police have wasted money on other investigations, while DV has some foundation, not just gossip.
I know the police probably just wish they could drop this 35 year old case, but it’s not going to fade away. So they should walk the walk and follow the last two leads:
The Met are good at talking, but not so good at putting the talk into action.
- The JD witness dumping the large bag in the canal.
- DV’s PoW cellar and railway embankment survey.
Did I read or have I misremembered that that canal is only about four feet deep and is dredged quite frequently anyway?
- The JD witness dumping the large bag in the canal.
- DV’s PoW cellar and railway embankment survey.
He was dating a solicitor from Bristol at some point, maybe she had a bolthole in London and stayed with her.There are a number of coincidences, but then so were there with Barry Bulsara and Jill Dando, Colin Stagg and Rachell Nickell, Lesley Molseed and Stefan Kiszko, Joanna Yeates and Christopher Jefferies, and so on. For me the plod have stumbled into the too-many-coincidences rather too often, and coincidences aren't evidence.
There seem to me to be some practical issues around this being Cannan as well. JC's account is that after leaving the prison hostel, he had nowhere to go but his mother's house in east Birmingham, so that's where he went. She and others later confirmed that alibi for at least the first few weeks of his release. His involvement in SJL's disappearance would mean he had to have acquired some sort of base in west London. Where was that, and how was he paying for it? He couldn't even afford a car - he shared the use of a red Sierra with another lag.
Speaking of which, the show Faking It has their 'experts' examine the evidence in the case against JC. No doubt that their 'experts' will side with the police and say he's guilty as far as Suzy's concerned.
According to the witness he used a shopping trolley, you are right canals are usually 4 / 5 ft deep, however, that section is part of the river Brent. Yes, they dredge every 5 years, I discussed it with local River / Canal trust. They said back then dredging was deposited at the side of the canal. But now they have to take it away.Did I read or have I misremembered that that canal is only about four feet deep and is dredged quite frequently anyway?
JC was always a bit of a weed and I'd be surprised if he was capable of heaving a suitcase with a body in it very far. Including the weight of the case we're talking about at least 130lbs of weight, maybe as much as 150lbs. Unless you're Arnie, you couldn't throw that sort of weight very far from the canal bank at all. So any suitcase is probably right by the bank in shallow water and should be easy to find.
There are a number of coincidences, but then so were there with Barry Bulsara and Jill Dando, Colin Stagg and Rachell Nickell, Lesley Molseed and Stefan Kiszko, Joanna Yeates and Christopher Jefferies, and so on. For me the plod have stumbled into the too-many-coincidences rather too often, and coincidences aren't evidence.
There seem to me to be some practical issues around this being Cannan as well. JC's account is that after leaving the prison hostel, he had nowhere to go but his mother's house in east Birmingham, so that's where he went. She and others later confirmed that alibi for at least the first few weeks of his release. His involvement in SJL's disappearance would mean he had to have acquired some sort of base in west London. Where was that, and how was he paying for it? He couldn't even afford a car - he shared the use of a red Sierra with another lag.
It would be interesting to hypnotise a witness to see what actually happened 30 years ago
Did you read the bit about her on the ship? She walked into a fairly crowded cabin and straddled a man lying on the bed ...the rest is up to your imagination
One of her 'shipmates' from QE2 days also regularly met up with her just for sex.
Is Stephens virtually telling us what she did, without actually able to label it?
Remember the Stephens book was originally comisioned by the Lamplugh family who quickly then maligned the piece because of the seedy details.
This caused much pain to the anthor, a top respected journalist who was only reporting who he uncovered. He was just doing his job, well....
ISTR from the AS book - but it's been 30 years, so I could easily be wrong - that the police never did identify the rich guy with the Mayfair flat. Of course, if said rich guy was a john who booked SJL through an agency, of course they'd struggle.
If any of our speculation is accurate - promiscuous, bunny girl (interesting, Pinkizzy), on the actual game - it would probably have been catastrophic for the investigation. Because suddenly she's not an innocent any more so far as Joe and Jane Public are concerned.
@WiseOwl makes a good point that if this was suspected, the police, obviously in thrall to the Lamplughs, would probably have felt obliged to suppress it, like AS did.
The only thing that makes me consider JC could have been involved is this. During the Yorkshire Ripper hunt, the WY plod focused first of all on fitting up a local minicab driver who was a known peeping Tom. Every time there was a killing, they'd round up their usual suspect. Then they fell for the Wearside Jack hoax, so they started dismissing all suspects who weren't Geordies, hoping to find a suspect who was. Following Sutcliffe's arrest (by another force) and trial, Sir Laurence Byford wrote a report into the shortcomings of the investigation. One thing he did was pull the photofit of every stranger assault in the area for the last 15 years and cover a wall with them. Every single one was a recognisable sketch of Sutcliffe.
Had the WY police done this, they'd have realised one man whose name they knew was their entire crime wave. Any other conclusion would imply there were at least two different criminals out there, with the same MO in the same area at the same time. That would be so vanishingly unlikely they would surely have suspected and arrested Sutcliffe. They didn't because they'd already decided who was doing it.
So perhaps it is equally unlikely that, as well as JC, there was another abductor of random women at large in the area. Of course, if SJL was not a random civilian but something else, this may not have been the work of anyone similar at all...