Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #76

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orchidaceaes said:
To me, it looks too boxy to be that because you can see the corners. Maybe a shoebox? Idk if that would've lasted for this long but it is roughly the same size. jmo though.
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Yes, I agree, it looks like clear corners along the bottom, but it doesn't seem to be the same square shape all the way to the top. Like maybe it's boxy but at the bottom but L-shaped or triangular on top? I have no guesses to what it might be. I'm not certain if the dark object was inside the bag already when CL found it?
 
simplemind said:
I just don't think he is equipped to deal with the public in a front page case like this. He rants about Fox pundits and media talking heads speculating and essentially being sensational and hyperbolic. I mean, SB, it's the media, what do you expect...?
Speculation occurs in information vacuums.
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IMO SB’s been out of his depth from the beginning, he’s close to the family and has let his anger about things affect his professionalism. I pointed out yesterday they needed a better lawyer, I genuinely believe if they had a lawyer who specialises in these sort of situations, they wouldn’t have had this PR nightmare caused by text messages sent to the media and interviews where he slips up, he told them not to speak and I cannot understand why he is speaking to anyone except LE. I have 3 solicitors in my family and I cannot imagine any of them acting this way. IMO I feel like a lot of people have been enjoying the limelight too much with gabbys case, they need to remember she was a person and murdered brutally, this isn’t about 15 mins of fame it’s about gabby and getting her justice however that may come about now. MOO

ETA - sorry to rant a little, I can just see as most of us can how this could have all been handled so much better than it has.
 
ClottedCream said:
Also, if he’s known CL for 25+ years, why has he only known BL who is 23 “since he was a small child”(around 1:25 mark).

IMO I’ve had hammered home some somewhat obvious lessons, but reinforced by figure

1/ As per one of her interviews (sorry I’ve lost track of which). GP’s mum speaks about feeling like something was off; but ‘everyone’ kept reassuring her all was fine. LESSON: Listen to your intuition when it comes to your kids/grand kids. Mum and Stan knew felt something they couldn’t explain..Learn to listen to that feeling, it’s smarter than your frontal Cortes knows!
2/if your kid f’s up and LE starts calling/ parents of girlfriend who is MIA start calling… YOUR PRIORITY SURELY IS TO KEEP YOUR KID ALIVE. Achieve this by any means necessary.
3/DO NOT….I REPEAT…DO NOT, under any circumstances hire a real estate lawyer to represent you for any matter that does not pertain to real estate. And if you have a friend that’s some kind of lawyer that does specialise in the area of law you need, and DOESN'T REFER YOU TO SOMEONE WHO CAN… are they acting as a friend in your best interest? I mean, I have a friend that’s a board certified plastic surgeon, but there’s no way that’s who I’d turn to if I needed brain surgery….but they’ve both been to medical school…
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Yes, to all of this!!
 
GRT said:
I think he probably just sees the situation from a different perspective. We now know his clients were involved with the FBI from nearly the start and it was the media that whipped up animosity against them. Now, he is probably watching people he knows suffers through the worst thing that could possibly happen to them and he feels they've been treated unfairly.

In that sense, I have to agree with him. Brian parents were treated unfairly. People can legally follow the advice of their lawyers and say "No comment" without the media acting as though they should be ignoring their attorney and talking. JMOO, but why hire an attorney if you're not going to heed their advice?
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I'm not ready to agree with this sentiment just yet. I think it's been handled poorly all around. We don't know about cooperation levels with LE as we're only getting one side. Or maybe one and a half, as NPPD has put out opposite statements about lack of early cooperation. SB even admits to talks with the FBI about charges involving the family in another interview yesterday. He may have kept the Laundrie parents out of serious legal trouble but I can't help but feel that could have been done more gracefully with the Petito's, the public, and maybe even with his other client BL. Tragedy all around.
 
Kristin Esq. said:
I was able to watch Marnie's interview of Steve Bertolino and he's so angry. He's angry at the public, angry at our speculation.
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Do you have no room to believe the Laundries are innocent of what they're being accused of? If it could be proved that they are, would you still be unable to justify his anger and frustration?
 
GRT said:
I think he probably just sees the situation from a different perspective. We now know his clients were involved with the FBI from nearly the start and it was the media that whipped up animosity against them. Now, he is probably watching people he knows suffers through the worst thing that could possibly happen to them and he feels they've been treated unfairly.

In that sense, I have to agree with him. Brian parents were treated unfairly. People can legally follow the advice of their lawyers and say "No comment" without the media acting as though they should be ignoring their attorney and talking. JMOO, but why hire an attorney if you're not going to heed their advice?

What happened is all on Brian and Brian, alone. The media whipped this case into a frenzy, and social media did the same. Considering that half-a-million people go missing in the US every year, it's kind of an anomaly that this happened with this case.

But, in the long run, this case is no more important than the case of any missing/murdered person, and we still need to respect the laws that maintain our rights (the right not to speak).

All MOO.
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I agree with all of this but have a slightly different look at it. I look at it from both sides. The lack of any communication from the Ls is what really ignited the vitriol towards them. It's an emotional case. And add in the link to SM from the beginning and it was a wildfire that burned out of control. I have always said that perception is 9/10th of reality and if you don't add in that other 1/10 to show what the actual reality is, you end up with the appearance taking flight as fact. None of us know what the truth is as far as the Ls go. And I would also say that if SB was on the other side of the coin, he would understand and, given his 'personality' that we have seen, would not be quiet. The Ls gave the perception that they were hiding something. That's the issue here. The appearance of disregard for GP and watching her grieving parents. The lack of actual facts of what the Ls motives were in their action/or the perception of lack thereof and mixed with the moral/ethical conflict with many of us of how we think people should behave led to the hate towards them. In the end, if they truly were just trying to protect BL and did not obstruct, I would hope that LE would come out and state as much to help squash the narrative that they were complicit. Not that it would help completely but it would at least help steer the narrative a bit. We saw with Richard Jewell how the stigma kind of stays with you but it would at least get some of the opinions put out there as facts by the public to be corrected.
I do think we will find out more as far as roles in this case goes and what happened, at least from the LE's investigation goes. We may never know what actually happened on that fateful day in Wyoming and only have a limited glimpse into things that led up to it. But we know that GP was murdered, BL was a POI and he is now deceased. I do hope that there is some kind of filling in some of the blanks from LE.
 
Keyedin said:
Was able to rewind GMA. I tooka video of the clip where he basically says they have info but isn't commenting on it, but it's too big to upload. Ugh.
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who has info? Sorry, confused!o_O
 
TL4S said:
Yes, I agree, it looks like clear corners along the bottom, but it doesn't seem to be the same square shape all the way to the top. Like maybe it's boxy but at the bottom but L-shaped or triangular on top? I have no guesses to what it might be. I'm not certain if the dark object was inside the bag already when CL found it?
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Yep! Or maybe it's at a backwards tilt making the other corner apparent towards the person holding it and hidden from the camera? idk if that makes sense. But I definitely think it's a box, like the size of a photo box or a shoebox. User priyaya posted earlier and informed me that CL and RL found the "dark object," IMO that's whatever this is, and put it in the bag.
 
ClottedCream said:
Also, if he’s known CL for 25+ years, why has he only known BL who is 23 “since he was a small child”(around 1:25 mark).

IMO I’ve had hammered home some somewhat obvious lessons, but reinforced by figure

1/ As per one of her interviews (sorry I’ve lost track of which). GP’s mum speaks about feeling like something was off; but ‘everyone’ kept reassuring her all was fine. LESSON: Listen to your intuition when it comes to your kids/grand kids. Mum and Stan knew felt something they couldn’t explain..Learn to listen to that feeling, it’s smarter than your frontal Cortes knows!
2/if your kid f’s up and LE starts calling/ parents of girlfriend who is MIA start calling… YOUR PRIORITY SURELY IS TO KEEP YOUR KID ALIVE. Achieve this by any means necessary.
3/DO NOT….I REPEAT…DO NOT, under any circumstances hire a real estate lawyer to represent you for any matter that does not pertain to real estate. And if you have a friend that’s some kind of lawyer that does NOT specialise in the area of law you need, and DOESN'T REFER YOU TO SOMEONE WHO CAN… are they acting as a friend in your best interest? I mean, I have a friend that’s a board certified plastic surgeon, but there’s no way that’s who I’d turn to if I needed brain surgery….but they’ve both been to medical school…
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My apologies I can’t edit… Cortes should be CORTEX
 
Claire182 said:
IMO SB’s been out of his depth from the beginning, he’s close to the family and has let his anger about things affect his professionalism. I pointed out yesterday they needed a better lawyer, I genuinely believe if they had a lawyer who specialises in these sort of situations, they wouldn’t have had this PR nightmare caused by text messages sent to the media and interviews where he slips up, he told them not to speak and I cannot understand why he is speaking to anyone except LE. I have 3 solicitors in my family and I cannot imagine any of them acting this way. IMO I feel like a lot of people have been enjoying the limelight too much with gabbys case, they need to remember she was a person and murdered brutally, this isn’t about 15 mins of fame it’s about gabby and getting her justice however that may come about now. MOO

ETA - sorry to rant a little, I can just see as most of us can how this could have all been handled so much better than it has.
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Sometimes, it is the better the devil you know. I believe that SB has given the L's good legal advice. I agree though, that media skills are not SB's greatest strength. There is specialised media training one needs to undertake to deal with the media effectively.

Re instructing different lawyers to deal with this. Perhaps the L's finances do not/would not stretch to a crim defence attorney with media training. Legal rep in criminal cases does not come cheap, nor is it free (unlike the UK).
 
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Keyedin said:
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1451404107827367937?t=fEkJMgTsnKbq-0FdDw4b9w&s=19

How did he know two lives were lost on 9/14?

Edit: 5:20ish mark I believe.
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I interpreted this as imperfect grammar/lack of transition. As in, two families have suffered a tragedy (missing), but without transition going from speaking about the past to speaking about currently, now that it has been proven that both have passed away. MOO

IMO my impression is that he did a lot of texting because it seems like when he has any emotion about the situation, he is not very good with words/speaking but all
MOO
 
Nikynoo said:
Sometimes, it is the better the devil you know. I believe that SB has given the L's good legal advice. I agree though, that media skills is not SB's greatest strength. There is specialised media training one needs to undertake to deal with the media effectively.

Re instructing different lawyers to deal with this. Perhaps the L's finances do not/would not stretch to a crim defence attorney with media training. Legal rep in criminal cases does not come cheap, nor is it free (unlike the UK).
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I like what you’re saying, I just think if he isn’t trained then he should have just kept quiet. I think what he’s done PR wise will impact them for a long time, it comes across as farcical. I’m not complaining that he’s speaking because we get information but from the other perspective I do feel like if the laundries had a different lawyer things may have not been as difficult as it has been for them. Obviously we don’t know their finances which could be a factor why they’ve kept him. Do you know if they have to give him permission to speak to media or can he just do that of his own back? I’m curious about this because I honestly can’t imagine them allowing him to say that they knew BL was grieving before GP was even found. MOO
 
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