Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #76

[kimch33kim]

Do we know this? Iirc, SB declined to share information with the public as to any formal retention with respect to any of the GP/BL issues. Which is fine.

source?

Yes he just said it in the interviews we watched last night in fact.

1:35

 

[Deleted member 121463]

I know that no one planted a body, but I will just never get over the sight of Dad deliberately walking off the trail with so much purpose, while Roberta just stares into the woods. imo.

 

[x_files]

Thanks for the link - G also says 'that he didn't hit me', 'he grabbed me with his hand'.

That's why I am getting confused, there have been many posts saying he hit her, and this is from a witness, not from G nor B.

Grabbing is also a form of assault. Also shoving, playing keep-away with her phone or keys to her van, and squeezing her face.
You can be arrested for taking someone's phone away and not allowing them to leave or make a call. It's illegal. A form of control.

 

[10ofRods]

Thanks for the link - G also says 'that he didn't hit me', 'he grabbed me with his hand'.

That's why I am getting confused, there have been many posts saying he hit her, and this is from a witness, not from G nor B.

Do you have a source for that witness? We keep hearing this, but it's not in the 911 call that I can see (two of them). Or is it? Am I missing something?

Typically, LE observe injuries and ask the parties to the incident to give their version of events - I believe Gabby and Brian were both present at the event and both told the same story.

 

[Lillymac]

the actual fight?

Re: GP's phone.

The officer asks BL about the phone and tells him to get it. BL gets the phone from inside the van and gives it to the officer.

 

[SDFinColo]

I still wish the Moab LE weren't so interested in buddying up with BL. But of course hindsight is 20/20. Hopefully in the future, LE will learn from this situation. IMO

 

[GreenEyes727]

I'm so curious about the notebook. Please let it have answers in it.

 

[Which_pancake]

I don't think there is anything to be gained from rehashing the Moab tapes again.

 

[GRT]

I know that no one planted a body, but I will just never get over the sight of Dad deliberately walking off the trail with so much purpose, while Roberta just stares into the woods. imo.

I'm guessing he might have smelled something. Since the water had just receded, you'd think there would have been a pretty strong odor.

I think both parents were pretty sure from the first that Brian might have taken his life, and they knew where he was going so they felt something had been overlooked.

 

[LietKynes]

Thanks for the link - G also says 'that he didn't hit me', 'he grabbed me with his hand'.

That's why I am getting confused, there have been many posts saying he hit her, and this is from a witness, not from G nor B.

Gabby Petito investigation: 911 call reveals Brian Laundrie seen hitting, 'slapping' her before disappearance

Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie's had 'explosive fight at Moonflower Co-Op where murdered Kylen Schulte worked'

Moonflower Community Co-operative worker speaks out on eerie link between Gabby Petito and double murder | The Independent

911 caller saw Laundrie slapping Petito in Utah | wtsp.com

LISTEN: 911 call details Laundrie 'slapping' Petito during Moab altercation

A 911 caller described seeing Brian Laundrie 'slapping' Gabby Petito in Utah weeks before she disappeared

The Fox news link is in the msm media thread, the other links are from the web.

The hitting occurred before the Moab police encounter; iirc ?
Apparently distressing enough that the caller felt compelled to make the 911 call ?
And there was also slapping on both sides, from the bodycam footage in the Moab stop.
At that specific time , I think their relationship was irretrievably broken.
I don't believe Gabby knew how much danger she was in, sadly !
Imo.

 

[GRT]

I'm so curious about the notebook. Please let it have answers in it.

I really hope it does.

 

[pcap]

I'm so curious about the notebook. Please let it have answers in it.

Assuming we ever get to see it...

 

[Nikynoo]

As someone else said, it is indeed upon the video. I remember its existence distinctly because in the early days, it also kept kicking off obsessive discussion about whether or not Brian was “lying’ when he said he did not have a cell phone, but then pulled his own out of his pocket (for the record, I opted for ‘an individual’s personal verbal lexicon’ explaining the difference, wherein Brian’s cell phone was so retro and inferior that in his mind he disdains it as being a ‘real’ cell phone).

As I recall, there is some sequence of events on the tape that results in one of the officers asking Brian to go get Gabby’s phone and bring it back to him, after which point Brian takes off with the keys.

In my mind, I thought this meant that Brian had taken Gabby’s own phone and tossed it into a center console between the two front seats or similar and was leaning on it or something, thus barring her from getting it.

Before they got in the car or after? See, if it was before, then how was B injured?

 

[Figuring]

Just read this in the CNN article someone posted (I think it got deleted due to copyright, as the whole thing appeared to be posted? I think this excerpt is ok?):

"On September 11 -- after Petito's family reported her missing -- Laundrie invoked his Fifth Amendment right when police went to the Laundrie home, North Port Police Chief Todd Garrison told CNN. Invoking the Fifth Amendment means a person cannot be forced to make statements they feel might be negative or used against them."

My question is... is this what we all understood about what happened, before now? That he invoked the 5th? I know they handed the police the lawyer contact info, but I didn't realize that automatically or explicitly equaled invoking the 5th? To me, this changes the contours of things, but perhaps it was just something I hadn't fully registered before. JMO

 

[10ofRods]

Her only mode? So BL did not take a plane back to florida? I guess she could not fly.

They were supposed to meet friends in yellowstone.
Lets play what if.
.

Snipped for focus. It keeps being said they were to meet "a friend" (not friends) in Yellowstone, but that friend (RD) has said several times that that's a misunderstanding. Instead, Gabby was supposed to call RD on RD's birthday (August 29) at which time they were going to discuss "meeting up," possibly in Yellowstone.

By that time, Gabby and BL ought to have been in Yellowstone - so unless they planned to stay quite a while or RD has lots of money, last minute fares to West Yellowstone are incredibly expensive. In fact, during August and September, it's almost impossible to find a last minute fare - so that was pretty much a pie-in-the-sky idea. It would have worked out, though, if RD had met them in Portland...

 

[mitzy]

Thanks for the link - G also says 'that he didn't hit me', 'he grabbed me with his hand'.

That's why I am getting confused, there have been many posts saying he hit her, and this is from a witness, not from G nor B.

I can’t believe we’re still going over this.

Ever heard of that cliche where a battered woman says she tripped? Hit the door handle? Slipped? Was simply clumsy?

It exists for a reason.

I have no doubts that the witness calls to 911 are truthful. One saw them fighting with each other, Gaby climbing over Brian. The other witness saw him slap and hit her, chasing her down the sidewalk.

Being stopped by the police must’ve been terrifying for Gabby after what she just went through. Having to explain yourself in that situation, when it’s hard to even admit things to yourself (like hey I’m in an abusive relationship, this isn’t okay)… the shame and guilt that come with that. The fear of punishment from the abuser for speaking up.

Just because Gaby didn’t admit to the cops on the spot that Brian had slapped her doesn’t make that less true. She pretty much took all the blame, she blamed herself for HIS lack of control over HIS emotions, his actions. It’s because of her behavior that I believe that wasn’t their first rodeo and she was used to excusing and justifying his behavior.

I really wish everyone would just read up on typical dynamics in abusive relationships, victim actions, etc.

 

[x_files]

I can’t believe we’re still going over this.

Ever heard of that cliche where a battered woman says she tripped? Hit the door handle? Slipped? Was simply clumsy?

It exists for a reason.

I have no doubts that the witness calls to 911 are truthful. One saw them fighting with each other, Gaby climbing over Brian. The other witness saw him slap and hit her, chasing her down the sidewalk.

Being stopped by the police must’ve been terrifying for Gabby after what she just went through. Having to explain yourself in that situation, when it’s hard to even admit things to yourself (like hey I’m in an abusive relationship, this isn’t okay)… the shame and guilt that come with that. The fear of punishment from the abuser for speaking up.

Just because Gaby didn’t admit to the cops on the spot that Brian had slapped her doesn’t make that less true. She pretty much took all the blame, she blamed herself for HIS lack of control over HIS emotions, his actions. It’s because of her behavior that I believe that wasn’t their first rodeo and she was used to excusing and justifying his behavior.

I really wish everyone would just read up on typical dynamics in abusive relationships, victim actions, etc.

The fact Gabby is a homicide victim speaks volumes to which person was more violent.
Gabby wasn't alive when BL died.

know to look at their video footage on August 27th. This case might have grown cold with no closure for Gabby's parents. I'm glad it did go viral. Let's help others next.

 

[CarolynAB2]

People are talking about the Laundry parents facing charges (and the possibility of them having made a deal with LE/FBI), but I think the possibility of them being charged is extremely unlikely, based on what we know to be true (facts). Here's why:

(1) The only thing the Laundries did that we know about, is to remain silent and to not answer/return texts/calls. These things are not criminal.

(2) IMO, BL appears to have been deceased since he left to hike in the reserve, based on the state of the remains being skeletal, which suggests that his parents were truthful about when he left and where he went.

(3) There is nothing to suggest that the parents assisted BL after he left, and certainly not after BL was charged with the bank card charge, because there were people watching their house/them around the clock. Anything they did to help him before he was charged was not criminal.

(4) It seems to me that it is unlikely that LE/FBI would have evidence of the parents doing anything to help BL after he was charged.
(a) Burner phones: unlikely
Apparently, there is no cell service in M. park or the C. reserve so it's unlikely that anyone was communicating with BL since he left home and went to the park or reserve.
(b) parents meeting BL and supplying him
People have been watching the parents' house around the clock and following them when they drive anywhere, so it's unlikely that they brought him supplies to the park or reserve.
(c) Bank withdrawals to help BL
There are unlikely to be any bank withdrawals to help BL after he was charged, because he was gone before that, so even if the parents bought him camping gear and supplies before he left, it would not have been criminal because he hadn't been charged at that time.

IMO, there is no reason for the parents to be charged for anything. It does not appear that they have done anything illegal.

 

[pcap]

I can’t believe we’re still going over this.

Ever heard of that cliche where a battered woman says she tripped? Hit the door handle? Slipped? Was simply clumsy?

It exists for a reason.

I have no doubts that the witness calls to 911 are truthful. One saw them fighting with each other, Gaby climbing over Brian. The other witness saw him slap and hit her, chasing her down the sidewalk.

Being stopped by the police must’ve been terrifying for Gabby after what she just went through. Having to explain yourself in that situation, when it’s hard to even admit things to yourself (like hey I’m in an abusive relationship, this isn’t okay)… the shame and guilt that come with that. The fear of punishment from the abuser for speaking up.

Just because Gaby didn’t admit to the cops on the spot that Brian had slapped her doesn’t make that less true. She pretty much took all the blame, she blamed herself for HIS lack of control over HIS emotions, his actions. It’s because of her behavior that I believe that wasn’t their first rodeo and she was used to excusing and justifying his behavior.

I really wish everyone would just read up on typical dynamics in abusive relationships, victim actions, etc.

I think you assuming Gabby was lying, which is certainly valid, is as valid as others assuming she wasn't. None of us were there, we only have her statements and witness statements to go by.

 

[Lillymac]

Grabbing is also a form of assault. Also shoving, playing keep-away with her phone or keys to her van, and squeezing her face.
You can be arrested for taking someone's phone away and not allowing them to leave or make a call. It's illegal. A form of control.

Hmm..guess I've been assaulted and just didn't know it. Playing keep away???