I watched the news in the beginning. I heard that the family was unhappy with the findings of the investigation. At the time in the beginning when the family was unhappy and hired their own PI team and started the ball rolling to get an independent second autopsy done on each of the bodies, there had not yet been any findings and it was much too soon in the investigation for police to have apparently figured out what occurred. They were unhappy with the speculation and publicity and where it appeared things were headed. IIRC, they did this on the advice of the family of another couple who had been murdered (I believe in Florida?). It was also a way of keeping LE on their toes and letting them know they were going to be monitored. I heard that the very wealthy family was hiring a team to endorse the family belief that the parents were murdered, and the subsequent findings were the family team deemed the deaths a double murder. As indicated in my comments to your post upthread, when the second autopsy was done, it was done by a much more experienced ME, and fortunately the first ME was with him when it was done. I truly believe the first ME's hands were tied, and perhaps he also wasn't confident enough to proclaim the manner of death.. it was undetermined. When the second ME did the second set of autopsies, I read that the first ME agreed with his finding of murder. I will try to find that link.
If this was not a wealthy family, there would not be a new determination of cause of death - one that protects the reputations of the parents and the children, one that contradicted investigative findings. That is possibly true, and if so, disgusting. I really feel awful for people who vehemently disagree with the official determination, but it's either too late to do anything about it, or the people don't have enough funds to do something about it. I disagree that anyone was protecting anyone, however. I believe the ME's office was perhaps just too short-staffed (read the Gouge Report) to do a stellar job. imo.
It's possible that the injuries to Honey's face were caused by being dragged down the stairs, but wouldn't that be obvious in an autopsy? It would be obvious that her face had an injury, however it was described as 'scratched', IIRC. They say that facial injuries can tend to bleed a lot? And we are not privy to whta the autopsy results said. I'm not sure if they can say with certainty that a facial injury may have been caused by being scraped or banged or dropped on marble, or if hit with something. In any case, there hasn't been anything said about autopsy findings to indicate that even if H was assaulted, that it was by her husband. A punch is different from a bump to the back of the head while bumping her head on the stairs. Which is it? The injury is to her face. What's the theory, she was dragged downstairs with her face hitting each step and that caused one injury to Honey's face? Implausible.That would be implausible for sure, but that was merely speculation from those who knew her. Maybe she was heavy and the killer(s) dropped her at one point on the marble stairs/floor? Maybe the killers punched her if she got mouthy with them (which is my personal belief).
One article says that the property report for the house they were selling was found on the floor leading to the pool area. Another report says that Barry's driving gloves were also found with that report. No way did he bring his driving gloves into the house from his old car in the 6 car garage each evening.That is certainly something to think about. I always bring my gloves into the house. Possibly others do not. Another possibility is that someone was hiding out in the backseat and walked him into the basement from the garage, before strangling him, because they wanted it done inside the home, or for whatever other reason(s) the killer may have had?
He remained at work after the meeting about the new house. He remained at work, while H took the opportunity to do some shopping on her way home. Why would he have the property report with him that night? Wouldn't that be delivered to the house by the property report person, or the realtor? He wouldn't be bringing that home from work. There are many possibilities. Perhaps the home inspector dropped it off to B's office because that is where B is most of the time. Usually home inspectors like to review the report/paperwork with the client to ensure the client understands what has been indicated, so what better place to get a few minutes of B's time to review the report? As well, the report could've been issued in earlier days, but B may have taken it to the office to make some calls to certain types of contractors, with report in hand, to read what it said, so there was no confusion about what needed to be done - and then brought it home again - and that bringing and taking of the report wouldn't have necessarily have had to occur on the same day.. he may have left it at the office for a few days and perhaps H was bugging him to bring it home so she could read it as well? I don't believe that the property report documents were in his hands when he arrived home that evening.
I think there's a different reason that the property report is on the floor leading to the bodies. The property report is unrelated to Honey's recent purchase of a new property and putting their home on the market. I would think since H's purchase of the new property was demolished and plans were already created for the new build, it would have been useless to have a home inspection done on that property - I don't think anyone has ever indicated that the report was related to that property? Unfortunately the public isn't being told if the report was related to their current home being on the market. Although it was already for sale, they were obviously still getting work done to it, and perhaps that home inspection was exactly the reason for it?
What's interesting in terms of murders is that Honey was murdered wearing the clothes she wore at the meeting. She had not changed, which should be the first thing she does when home at 7 or 8 PM. Barry arrived something like an hour later, or was it sooner, and he too was murdered in what he was wearing earlier that day - including his coat. So to me, that would indicate that it absolutely was NOT Barry who murdered H. We know that B remained at the office and that H arrived home well before him. If H had been home for ANY amount of time prior to being murdered, surely she would've removed her coat, and presumably she also would've changed into something perhaps more comfortable. And same for B. It seems neither of them had a change to even get their coats off before they were accosted. imo.
I'd like to see more information about where they were between 5:30 PM and 8 PM on the day that they were murdered. It has been said there is video of B leaving the office, getting into his car at the time when he left to go home... therefore one might assume he was at the office. We've been told there are receipts and phonecalls and perhaps more info the police have, to say that H went to a mall to purchase some gifts for her grandson(s) for Hanukkah on her way home, and she made at least one phonecall on her way home. Police may also have security footage from the mall, or from cameras along roadways, who knows?
If they were both murdered wearing their coats, and they arrived home at different times, that seems more like double murder using murder weapons that were already at the scene Why would it seem the killer(s) used murder weapons already at the scene, rather than bringing their own? Secondly, perhaps this was not planned ahead of time? What if someone close enough to perhaps have a key, had gone over to have a conversation/ask for something, and it ended badly/not going their way? and no evidence of a break-in. It has been reported that the back basement door was unlocked, and the windows of the room being painted. I believe it was also reported that they didn't necessarily lock the doors while they were inside the home? Who could that be - benefited from both parents dead at the same time, happened to be at the house, happened to murder mom, happened to murder dad to cover up? I'm not sure B was murdered to cover up what had happened to H? Perhaps both were wanted dead? Is there anyone in the family that falls into that category? Why stage such a bizarre scene at the pool? Personally I don't understand at all why police would ever have even imagined that scene as being M/S, but if for whatever reason, it did look to be that way at first sight - is it possible the bizarre scene was staged for that exact reason? That seems to personal. Very personal indeed, imho.
So, in summary, yes, full circle.
