Identified! VA - Annandale, WhtFem ~60, 245UFVA, 'NO CODE, DNR, No Penicillin', Dec'96 #2 - Joyce Meyer Sommers

[PuzzlinEvidence]

This Christmas tree Jane doe look like almost Ann Bernadette Fulton

Interesting, I can definitely see a resemblance between them. Ann Fulton would've been missing for a full 25 years before this Doe was found, although she matches the height/weight. Also an apparent history of depression and a hidden drinking problem. Given the clothing and Mel Brooks I would've guessed this Jane Doe is from the East Coast too, though that's pretty speculative.

Either way, hopefully we will soon know from DNA.

 

[carbuff]

Height fits, and she would have been around 66 in 1996 so the age is right.

 

[DanceCard]

Bumping...

This Christmas tree Jane doe look like almost Ann Bernadette Fulton
Ann Bernadette Fulton – The Charley Project

There is a thread for Ann here :
NJ - NJ - Ann Bernadette "Bea" Fulton, 41, Bridgewater, 23 Apr 1971

I can definitely see a resemblance.

 

[Cattydcat]

There is a thread for Ann here :
NJ - NJ - Ann Bernadette "Bea" Fulton, 41, Bridgewater, 23 Apr 1971

I can definitely see a resemblance.

I see a resemblance too - I guess even if she was identified, it seems like she would have lived away from her family for a long time. Might not even be possible to figure out where she spent the later parts of her life.

 

[Bit of hope]

Thanks to everybody who is still looking out for her identity....It's very heartwarming to see. For me personally..I put a lot of hours in searching for her identity....and she has a ton of rule outs now...I prefer to wait for the DNA results. My guess is we are all are going to be surprised. I always called her "the red headed lady" the name of the file I have for her and I have searched my soul many times....should we let her go...she tried so hard to cover up her identity...or "go for it"..find her......I just want her to have peace, because I feel some kind of connection (love?) with her (like Ellery Doe) and maybe her family who might still be looking out for her get some peace too. Good thoughts.....

 

[carbuff]

Thanks to everybody who is still looking out for her identity....It's very heartwarming to see. For me personally..I put a lot of hours in searching for her identity....and she has a ton of rule outs now...I prefer to wait for the DNA results. My guess is we are all are going to be surprised. I always called her "the red headed lady" the name of the file I have for her and I have searched my soul many times....should we let her go...she tried so hard to cover up her identity...or "go for it"..find her......I just want her to have peace, because I feel some kind of connection (love?) with her (like Ellery Doe) and maybe her family who might still be looking out for her get some peace too. Good thoughts.....

I agree. She wanted to be alone; who am I to deny her that?

But at the same time I hope she knows that even if she didn't feel she had love in her life at the end, there are people who love her now.

 

[annpats]

She chose to die the way she wanted to. She had that.
I hope in death, she'll allow us to find out a little bit more about her, only out of the pure love and compassion we have for her.

 

[Hochman]

I wish there were a higher quality version of her reconstruction that isnt AI enhanced.

 

[CCJD]

I agree. She wanted to be alone; who am I to deny her that?

RSBM

I've always got it in the back of my mind that when she's ID'd (and I have no doubt she will be) that her family may honor her by not releasing her name.

 

[Cattydcat]

I agree. She wanted to be alone; who am I to deny her that?

But at the same time I hope she knows that even if she didn't feel she had love in her life at the end, there are people who love her now.

I agree completely with that. She went out on her own terms but there may be people who have missed her, looked for her or just remembered her in passing, like I do old work colleagues or neighbours who I would never have kept in touch with. We all deserve to be remembered and let's face it, I think we have all warmed to this lady and her sense of humour and politeness - whether we end up knowing about this lady's path in life or identity, I don't think it matters as I think she will be remembered by a lot of people now.

 

[Cattydcat]

Just a question on the privacy question of not identifying someone publicly - I understand and respect the need for that but does law enforcement etc actually cross reference if there is a missing report for the person and then close it down?

 

[rosesfromangels]

Just a question on the privacy question of not identifying someone publicly - I understand and respect the need for that but does law enforcement etc actually cross reference if there is a missing report for the person and then close it down?

Yes, they do. They will try to locate next of kin.

amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Cattydcat]

Yes, they do. They will try to locate next of kin.

amateur opinion and speculation

Thanks - I guess I was wondering how far the right to privacy extended in the US, in terms of no one being told. Thank you.

 

[HockeyMomDiva]

My gosh. So frustrating that this case has not yet been solved. it’s been a while since I last read about her here. I first learned about her on the Doe Network site back in 2004 and it’s haunted me ever since.

 

[carterkatt]

Just checking for any updates. I think of her often. As has been said... she's cared about by so many....

 

[Nell91]

Identified by Othram!!!! I am in shock.

 

[Nell91]

RIP Joyce, you were so, so loved.

 

[othram]

Identified by Othram!!!! I am in shock.

Here is our story: After 25 years, "Christmas Tree Lady" Is Identified.

 

[Nell91]

Forever in awe of you guys.
Joyce sounds like she had a tough life. I hope she found her peace.

 

[chaddylex]

Just saw on FB she got her name back! Thanks again @othram for all you do!

RIP Joyce. You were loved by so many here.