I had replied to your post that you will see and also wanted to add something else.
Johnny, I do remember that, but at the time we were not allowed to discuss it because we couldn't link it to a MSM source. Now that it has been brought out in public court, we can discuss some of it.
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He mentioned 4 Aces and also mentioned the dead man's hand when he was testifying. It almost seemed like he was saying there were two different tattoos that G4 had. It was a little confusing. I have listened to it a few times and each time I am not sure what he meant.Johnny, I do remember that, but at the time we were not allowed to discuss it because we couldn't link it to a MSM source. Now that it has been brought out in public court, we can discuss some of it.
I have been researching some of the possible meanings behind the tattoo. I'm going to link some sources but understanding they are all just opinions and certainly not considered MSM!
Here is what I have found.
The playing cards in G4's tattoo do not appear to be the "Dead Man's Hand". The "Dead Man's Hand" is the story of Wild Bill Hickok's poker hand the night beforehe was murdered. It is two aces (Spades and Clubs), two eights (Spades and Clubs) and an unknown fifth card.
1) G4's tattoo appears to be The Four Aces
Possible meanings:
"The first meaning associated with the 4 aces tattoo is good luck. This tattoo is generally seen as a sign of good luck, and many people believe that it will bring them good fortune.
The second meaning associated with the 4 aces tattoo is strength and power. This tattoo is often seen as a symbol of strength and power, and it can be a great way to show off your power.
What Does 4 Aces Tattoo Mean?
4 aces tattoo can mean a lot of different things to different people. To some, it might represent the four suits in a deck of cards - hearts, spades
The third meaning associated with the 4 aces tattoo is victory. This tattoo is often seen as a symbol of victory, and it can be a great way to show off your inner strength."
What Does 4 Aces Tattoo Mean?
4 aces tattoo can mean a lot of different things to different people. To some, it might represent the four suits in a deck of cards - hearts, spades
2) 8 Ball -
"The eight ball is what would be called the most important ball out of the rack, this is because it determines whether you win or lose. The image of the eight ball can both be a symbol of luck, and a symbol of bad luck. This being said, the eight ball is kind of a mysterious, black figure that keeps people wondering ‘what will happen?"
8 Ball Tattoo Meaning, Designs & Ideas
What does 8 ball tattoo mean? We have 8 ball tattoo ideas, designs, symbolism and we explain the meaning behind the tattoo.
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"Since it can represent both good and bad luck, it is an appealing tattoo design to emphasize the idea of "chance." It can be a reference to taking the good with the bad, or of balance. The eight ball tattoo is perfect for anyone who lives life on the edge or presses their luck."
"It is believed that the eight ball tattoo first appeared in prison and became a popular symbol among inmates and gang members. Even today, you can find inmates or former prisoners with them. The image is also popular among drug dealers who sell cocaine. In this context, the design became a bad luck symbol.
Eight Ball Tattoo Ideas, Meanings, and Pictures
Eight balls symbolize both good and bad luck. Incorporate an eight ball into a tattoo design that includes gambling symbols or other good or bad luck items.
3) The Skull -
"The human skull tattoo generally represents death, the person wearing this tattoo usually uses it symbolize the fact that death does not scare them. It also reminds people that death is inevitable, therefore we should live always live life to the absolute fullest. In other words, a fear of mortality should not dictate your quality of life.
CELTIC SKULL TATTOO
This tattoo is viewed by the Celtic culture as “the seat of the soul.” It represents a type of portal that leads to a higher form of power, knowledge, and understanding."
TYPES AND MEANINGS OF SKULL TATTOOS
Skull tattoos are an extremely popular form of symbolism seen in both culture and tattoos. These tattoos may be representative of both the positive and negative, good and evil, and also life and death. For the most part, skulls represent some sort of positive aspect that comes from the negative...
There are clearly different meanings in tattoos and in their combinations. I have just thrown up a few here for review.
Anyone have other thoughts as to what they may mean??
JMO
ETA - I don't know how to delete these images at the end of my post. Please disregard.
Johnny, I do remember that, but at the time we were not allowed to discuss it because we couldn't link it to a MSM source. Now that it has been brought out in public court, we can discuss some of it.
I have been researching some of the possible meanings behind the tattoo. I'm going to link some sources but understand they are all just opinions and certainly not considered MSM!
Here is what I have found.
The playing cards in G4's tattoo do not appear to be the "Dead Man's Hand". The "Dead Man's Hand" is the story of Wild Bill Hickok's poker hand the night before he was murdered. It is two aces (Spades and Clubs), two eights (Spades and Clubs) and an unknown fifth card.
1) G4's tattoo appears to be The Four Aces
Possible meanings:
"The first meaning associated with the 4 aces tattoo is good luck. This tattoo is generally seen as a sign of good luck, and many people believe that it will bring them good fortune.
The second meaning associated with the 4 aces tattoo is strength and power. This tattoo is often seen as a symbol of strength and power, and it can be a great way to show off your power.
What Does 4 Aces Tattoo Mean?
4 aces tattoo can mean a lot of different things to different people. To some, it might represent the four suits in a deck of cards - hearts, spades
The third meaning associated with the 4 aces tattoo is victory. This tattoo is often seen as a symbol of victory, and it can be a great way to show off your inner strength."
What Does 4 Aces Tattoo Mean?
4 aces tattoo can mean a lot of different things to different people. To some, it might represent the four suits in a deck of cards - hearts, spades
2) 8 Ball -
"The eight ball is what would be called the most important ball out of the rack, this is because it determines whether you win or lose. The image of the eight ball can both be a symbol of luck, and a symbol of bad luck. This being said, the eight ball is kind of a mysterious, black figure that keeps people wondering ‘what will happen?"
8 Ball Tattoo Meaning, Designs & Ideas
What does 8 ball tattoo mean? We have 8 ball tattoo ideas, designs, symbolism and we explain the meaning behind the tattoo.
also
"Since it can represent both good and bad luck, it is an appealing tattoo design to emphasize the idea of "chance." It can be a reference to taking the good with the bad, or of balance. The eight ball tattoo is perfect for anyone who lives life on the edge or presses their luck."
"It is believed that the eight ball tattoo first appeared in prison and became a popular symbol among inmates and gang members. Even today, you can find inmates or former prisoners with them. The image is also popular among drug dealers who sell cocaine. In this context, the design became a bad luck symbol.
Eight Ball Tattoo Ideas, Meanings, and Pictures
Eight balls symbolize both good and bad luck. Incorporate an eight ball into a tattoo design that includes gambling symbols or other good or bad luck items.
3) The Skull -
"The human skull tattoo generally represents death, the person wearing this tattoo usually uses it symbolize the fact that death does not scare them. It also reminds people that death is inevitable, therefore we should live always live life to the absolute fullest. In other words, a fear of mortality should not dictate your quality of life.
CELTIC SKULL TATTOO
This tattoo is viewed by the Celtic culture as “the seat of the soul.” It represents a type of portal that leads to a higher form of power, knowledge, and understanding."
TYPES AND MEANINGS OF SKULL TATTOOS
Skull tattoos are an extremely popular form of symbolism seen in both culture and tattoos. These tattoos may be representative of both the positive and negative, good and evil, and also life and death. For the most part, skulls represent some sort of positive aspect that comes from the negative...
There are clearly different meanings in tattoos and in their combinations. I have just thrown up a few here for review.
Anyone have other thoughts as to what they may mean??
JMO
My opinion. Parker is in way over his head. Especially
i would think if its 4 aces that would refer to the 4 wagners being victorious against the 8 rhodens by killing them. eightball could stand for both the number of victims, and the fact that if you scratch/call wrong an 8 ball you lose everything. skull seems pretty obvious death etc.Johnny, I do remember that, but at the time we were not allowed to discuss it because we couldn't link it to a MSM source. Now that it has been brought out in public court, we can discuss some of it.
I have been researching some of the possible meanings behind the tattoo. I'm going to link some sources but understand they are all just opinions and certainly not considered MSM!
Here is what I have found.
The playing cards in G4's tattoo do not appear to be the "Dead Man's Hand". The "Dead Man's Hand" is the story of Wild Bill Hickok's poker hand the night before he was murdered. It is two aces (Spades and Clubs), two eights (Spades and Clubs) and an unknown fifth card.
1) G4's tattoo appears to be The Four Aces
Possible meanings:
"The first meaning associated with the 4 aces tattoo is good luck. This tattoo is generally seen as a sign of good luck, and many people believe that it will bring them good fortune.
The second meaning associated with the 4 aces tattoo is strength and power. This tattoo is often seen as a symbol of strength and power, and it can be a great way to show off your power.
What Does 4 Aces Tattoo Mean?
4 aces tattoo can mean a lot of different things to different people. To some, it might represent the four suits in a deck of cards - hearts, spades
The third meaning associated with the 4 aces tattoo is victory. This tattoo is often seen as a symbol of victory, and it can be a great way to show off your inner strength."
What Does 4 Aces Tattoo Mean?
4 aces tattoo can mean a lot of different things to different people. To some, it might represent the four suits in a deck of cards - hearts, spades
2) 8 Ball -
"The eight ball is what would be called the most important ball out of the rack, this is because it determines whether you win or lose. The image of the eight ball can both be a symbol of luck, and a symbol of bad luck. This being said, the eight ball is kind of a mysterious, black figure that keeps people wondering ‘what will happen?"
8 Ball Tattoo Meaning, Designs & Ideas
What does 8 ball tattoo mean? We have 8 ball tattoo ideas, designs, symbolism and we explain the meaning behind the tattoo.
also
"Since it can represent both good and bad luck, it is an appealing tattoo design to emphasize the idea of "chance." It can be a reference to taking the good with the bad, or of balance. The eight ball tattoo is perfect for anyone who lives life on the edge or presses their luck."
"It is believed that the eight ball tattoo first appeared in prison and became a popular symbol among inmates and gang members. Even today, you can find inmates or former prisoners with them. The image is also popular among drug dealers who sell cocaine. In this context, the design became a bad luck symbol.
Eight Ball Tattoo Ideas, Meanings, and Pictures
Eight balls symbolize both good and bad luck. Incorporate an eight ball into a tattoo design that includes gambling symbols or other good or bad luck items.
3) The Skull -
"The human skull tattoo generally represents death, the person wearing this tattoo usually uses it symbolize the fact that death does not scare them. It also reminds people that death is inevitable, therefore we should live always live life to the absolute fullest. In other words, a fear of mortality should not dictate your quality of life.
CELTIC SKULL TATTOO
This tattoo is viewed by the Celtic culture as “the seat of the soul.” It represents a type of portal that leads to a higher form of power, knowledge, and understanding."
TYPES AND MEANINGS OF SKULL TATTOOS
Skull tattoos are an extremely popular form of symbolism seen in both culture and tattoos. These tattoos may be representative of both the positive and negative, good and evil, and also life and death. For the most part, skulls represent some sort of positive aspect that comes from the negative...
There are clearly different meanings in tattoos and in their combinations. I have just thrown up a few here for review.
Anyone have other thoughts as to what they may mean??
JMO
He does not have much to work that is for sure. It might be hard for G4 to say that he had ineffective legal counsel because I think they are giving him the best representation possible under the circumstances.
I consider the tattoos of G4 and BW after the murders a form of silent bragging. There have been quite a few cases that tattoos have come up in. One football players trial comes to mind where his tattoos were brought up when on trial for murder.
Totally agree. If I were Georgie I would not hesitate to take any plea deal. He's sunk. IMO
Thanks for the time stamps. When I have a few minutes the next couple days I'll listen to it.
Thanks to CC and CO for the info. I'm sure I've asked that before and looked it up myself online, but for some reason I can't keep it straight in my head. I wrote it down in my notes this time!!Profile | Portsmouth, Ohio Lawyer | Richard M. Nash Jr.
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Unfortunately, only GW4 can make the decision to change his plea to guilty. For all we know, his attorneys could have been telling him to take the LWOP deal all along, especially since JW and AW's confessions. If GW4's ego won't allow him to accept that he's guilty of murder simply by being present when the murders were committed and assisting BW and JW, then his attorneys have to keep plugging away until GW4 either changes his mind about pleading guilty or the case goes to trial.
I agree.
Glad to help and glad to have you helping too!
Opinion - Following the filings the last few days the defense and prosecution seem to be in a battle over JW ex information. Deering even said in the May 16th hearing they would contact the Supreme court to determine if a judge with a blanket appointment could hear the Certification of Non Disclosure or the Supreme Court would have to appoint a judge. I am worried if they do not get this settled fairly soon it could hold up the trial.
| 05/16/2022 | CERTIFICATION OF NON-DISCLOSURE PURSUANT TO CRIMINAL RULE 16(D) FILED |
| 05/18/2022 | MOTION NO. 90 MOTION FOR IN CAMERA HEARING FOR REVIEW OF PROSECUTING ATTORNEY'S CERTIFICATION OF NON-DISCLOSURE FILED Attorney: PARKER, JOHN PATRICK |
