Possible Victim: Valerie Mack, 24, Manorville Jane Doe #6, missing 2000, found Nov 2000 & Gilgo Beach Apr 2011

[LR1]

She left home in Oct 2000 to visit her son and sister in Wildwood (about 40 miles down the coast) according to her mom in the article. “It was at that point that I heard of Valerie going to New York" The sister in wildwood, who Valerie had lived with years earlier, has since passed. I'm thinking she might've been the one with knowledge of the trip and that was relayed to Mrs. Mack when Valerie didn't return. I've yet to make sense of the discrepancy in the "last seen" narrative of spring/summer vs Oct 2000.

Adoptive or otherwise, these parents seem like wonderful people.

 

[SharD]

And the internet and cellphones weren't a thing back then, so, he couldn't put his "adds" on things like Craigslist. He had to do it a different way. I don't see how it would have been easy for him to groom girls before the internet and cellphones became commonplace, like they were in 2007 and onwards. He changed his MO because the new MO became more convinient. He may have had to either abduct them the old fashioned way, or chat them up in person before he could use adds and phones.

The nose is an odd thing. I am not sure who the "target" of that drawing was. I'd imagine that, if someone from her family needed to recognize her, they'd had drawn her WITHOUT the crooked nose. But maybe they couldn't reproduce what the nose actually looked like before it was broken. Ideally, they'd had that picture drawn with -and- without the crooked nose. Not just with.

 

[DetectiveB]

That was quite an emotional read. Especially the part with the ring.

I had to read that article with an anti paywall website, but it didn't give me the video. Does anyone have it?

They HAVE to find out who it was. This has gone on for far too long.

Video re: VM that may or may not work

Gilgo Beach victim Valerie Mack's family speaks to Newsday

Valerie Mack was 24 years old when she abruptly disappeared from her family's lives around October 2000. Newsday TV's Faith Jessie talked with Newsday reporter Anthony M. DeStefano about Mack's muder.

www.newsday.com

 

[DaisyChains]

Interesting theory & makes sense that he might be keeping these girls for some time doing whatever. He definitely would need a place to put these girls where their screams can not be heard when tortured from the outside world.

Wasn’t there a random signal from MBs phone a bit after she disappeared - as if someone turned it on? It happened in the Hempstead area right?

I’m interested in where all the calls were made from (tower locations) when LISK was taunting and calling his victim’s loved ones.

They were generally in NYC and LI right?

I still think he’s in/from Hempstead . It’s the most populated town in NY so statistically it’s more likely he could be there. Also the Hempstead Jane Doe always reminded me of a LISK victim.

 

[wcasewatch]

Wasn’t there a random signal from MBs phone a bit after she disappeared - as if someone turned it on? It happened in the Hempstead area right?

I’m interested in where all the calls were made from (tower locations) when LISK was taunting and calling his victim’s loved ones.

They were generally in NYC and LI right?

I still think he’s in/from Hempstead . It’s the most populated town in NY so statistically it’s more likely he could be there. Also the Hempstead Jane Doe always reminded me of a LISK victim.

The taunting phone calls were all made from the Port Authority and Penn Station in Manhattan. Busy places that would be difficult to canvas.

 

[hafom8840]

Bump for Valerie.

 

[DaisyChains]

The taunting phone calls were all made from the Port Authority and Penn Station in Manhattan. Busy places that would be difficult to canvas.

This is true, but Melissa’s cellphone was turned on in Hempstead and I believe voicemail was checked during the time she was missing.

The theory with this is that LISK might have been checking out her phone and turned it on which produced a signal. He wanted contacts from her phone or to check her voicemail to see if anyone had called her concerned etc. he did not spend much time with her phone on.

Whether or not he intentionally turned on the phone in the Hempstead area SPECIFICALLY in order to throw off authorities as to his location is also to be theorized. I do think the location in Hempstead was in a busy area but nearest to a hotel. Was Melissa being kept in a hotel room? We know trafficking victims often can be confined in hotel rooms so much so that entire safety networks have been created for tracking and prevention.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

LONG ISLAND, N.Y. — Police on Long Island have added another link in a chain of 11 unsolved Gilgo Beach killings believed to be the work of a serial killer.

Using genetic genealogy, Suffolk County police investigators have identified one of the slain women, initially dubbed “Jane Doe No. 6,” as Valerie Mack, police officials said Thursday. Mack’s identification comes 20 years after she vanished.

Mack, a Craigslist escort who lived and worked in Philadelphia, was 24 years old when she was last seen in the spring or summer of 2000 in the area of Port Republic, New Jersey. Her partial remains were found in Manorville that November and near Cedar Beach in 2011.

Investigators use DNA, genetic genealogy to ID another victim of Long Island serial murders

Suffolk County police investigators have identified one of the slain women, initially dubbed “Jane Doe No. 6,” as Valerie Mack, police officials said Thursday. Mack’s identification comes 20 years after she vanished.

www.boston25news.com

 

[wazdorf]

Gilgo Beach murder court documents | PDF | Dna Profiling | Forensic Science

Wonder if the searches for redheads are a reference to Valerie.

 

[hafom8840]

Gilgo Beach murder court documents | PDF | Dna Profiling | Forensic Science

Wonder if the searches for redheads are a reference to Valerie.

God those searches are nauseating. Especially considering the murders he's charged with. What a degenerate.

 

[Truly_Mysterious]

Valerie Mack's remains were found in two different dump site locations on Long Island Gilgo Beach in April 2011 and a Manorville wooded area in Nov 2000.

Jessica Taylor's partial remains were also found in the same two body dump locations Gilgo Beach in Mar 2011 and Manorville wooded area in July 2003.

This means if that if Rex Heuermann ever gets linked to Valerie Mack's or Jessica Taylor's murder then this would show two of his body dump locations to be the Gilgo Beach, and the Manorville Wooded area. It would also show that his murder spree began from at least the year 2000 (see below)


Also, the Manorville Wooded area where parts of Valerie Mack's and Jessica Taylor's remains were found would be difficult to access with a normal vehicle as there don't appear to be any proper roads, only what looks to be wooded maintenance access routes.


So I wonder if Rex Heuermann may have used the military style jeep (see below) that's shown on streetview in his front garden, to carry their remains and to more easily access this wooded area.

 

[hafom8840]

Valerie Mack's remains were found in two different dump site locations on Long Island Gilgo Beach in April 2011 and a Manorville wooded area in Nov 2000.

Jessica Taylor's partial remains were also found in the same two body dump locations Gilgo Beach in Mar 2011 and Manorville wooded area in July 2003.

This means if that if Rex Heuermann ever gets linked to Valerie Mack's or Jessica Taylor's murder then this would show two of his body dump locations to be the Gilgo Beach, and the Manorville Wooded area. It would also show that his murder spree began from at least the year 2000 (see below)
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Also, the Manorville Wooded area where parts of Valerie Mack's and Jessica Taylor's remains were found would be difficult to access with a normal vehicle as there don't appear to be any proper roads, only what looks to be wooded maintenance access routes.
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So I wonder if Rex Heuermann may have used the military style jeep (see below) that's shown on streetview in his front garden, to carry their remains and to more easily access this wooded area.
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Interesting theory. I dare say I think that jeep could possibly be the vehicle used to transport victims. If so, I really hope it doesn't get in the public's hand and have people with such poor taste wanting to see it in a museum like OJ's bronco or bundy's beetle.

 

[Truly_Mysterious]

Interesting theory. I dare say I think that jeep could possibly be the vehicle used to transport victims. If so, I really hope it doesn't get in the public's hand and have people with such poor taste wanting to see it in a museum like OJ's bronco or bundy's beetle.

I did notice in news footage yesterday (see below) that the police were removing a vehicle covered with green tarp that maybe the same military style Jeep. I guess taking it away for forensic analysis.

Yes, it seems very odd when you think about it that some people have a morbid curiosity about such objects used by famous serial killers for murderous intent. Much like the so called "Death tourism" where people are fascinated with visiting places where horrific murders took place.

 

[hafom8840]

I did notice in news footage yesterday (see below) that the police were removing a vehicle covered with green tarp that maybe the same military style Jeep. I guess taking it away for forensic analysis.

Yes, it seems very odd when you think about it that some people have a morbid curiosity about such objects used by famous serial killers for murderous intent. Much like the so called "Death tourism" where people are fascinated with visiting places where horrific murders took place.

This jeep is confirmed the vehicle, I guarantee Massapequa Park will have death tourists bothering residents.

 

[fidgeypie]

The photo they have of her, she looks so sad

 

[Truly_Mysterious]

The photo they have of her, she looks so sad

I believe the sad photos they tend to show of her are taken from police mug shots after they brought her in during hard times. For example street workers do sometimes get booked into the police station due to the the illegal nature their work and sometimes due to their use of illicits.

Here's a photo from happier times
https:// unidentified-awareness . fandom.com / wiki / Valerie_Mack?file=ValerieMack4.png

 

[fidgeypie]

I believe the sad photos they tend to show of her are taken from police mug shots after they brought her in during hard times. For example street workers do sometimes get booked into the police station due to the the illegal nature their work and sometimes due to their use of illicits.

Here's a photo from happier timesView attachment 436126
https:// unidentified-awareness . fandom.com / wiki

What a beautiful photo thank you for posting that. It makes my heart break for her just that little bit more. I feel for them all, don't get me wrong, but something about Valerie just grabs me everytime they show all of their photos, I wish I could explain it.

 

[Lex141]

I believe the sad photos they tend to show of her are taken from police mug shots after they brought her in during hard times. For example street workers do sometimes get booked into the police station due to the the illegal nature their work and sometimes due to their use of illicits.

Here's a photo from happier timesView attachment 436126
https:// unidentified-awareness . fandom.com / wiki / Valerie_Mack?file=ValerieMack4.png

Thank you for posting this photo of Valerie. She had a beautiful smile