Found Deceased CA - Kiely Rodni Missing From Party Near Prosser Family Campground in Truckee #4

[RedHaus]

Thank you to @SMK777 and @pandamonium for helping track down the Day 6 presser for new item #10, below.

Here is the current list of LE / MSM verified facts. Please note what is NOT in this set of facts...

1) 6pm store surveillance image of KR with description of KR's apparel (black body shirt, green dickies, vans, etc.)

2) gold necklaces KR may have had

3) two sweatshirts / hoodies: a) KR wore a pink & white one at the Prosser Camp party per video; b) a black one she had

4) confirmation KR was at the Prosser Camp party

5) a text to Mom from KR's phone at 11:30pm

6) final ping from KR's phone at 12:33am from party location (near water and land)

7) KR may have gone somewhere after the Prosser Camp party (not to home?)

8) make, model and license plate # of KR's car (2013 Honda CRV, CA 8YUR127)

9) ram sticker is on back window of KR's car, below the windshield wiper.

10) some adults are trying to discourage people and possibly teens coming forward with information

Again, did I miss or misstate anything?

 

[Perch]

I do not believe that LE feel certain that Kiely, her phone, and her car, are still together in the same place, but they are certain that they were all together at some point, the evening she disappeared, and they are all missing now, While it seems logical to assume that they may all still be together, I am sure LE are exploring every possibility, and hoping that finding any of those three missing things may yield clues to the location of the others.

I do feel like if they all are not together, the highest likelihood is that she may have been separated from her phone first, and it may stil be very near the campground, perhaps in the lake. JMO

A few thoughts. If KR did get in her car to drive home there is a strong possibility she would plug her phone into the charger. There would have been more pings at least a little bit along the route home. While it is also possible she didn’t plug it in my thought is she would. To me this is a factor that would reduce the probability she and her car are off the road somewhere.

 

[ChuckInHouston]

What I have found puzzling is that no one besides Sammy has mentioned being in contact with her at the party, even if just in conversation. "oh yea, I was talking to that girl around midnight" stranger or some one she knew. Who was the last person Sammy saw her talking to. You know what I mean? I'm saying, ok you left with another ride, but where was she and who was she talking too, when you parted company? I mean you did not just leave her standing by herself in the woods. She would have been standing in a group at least. Was she talking to a bunch of strangers, did she say, I'm going to go and find so and so, or was she with someone else they knew.

 

[Curiousobserver]

I wonder how close she was to people at this party. Did she know them well, other than her few friends who have spoken? Was she well-known? Someone said she was homeschooled; is this true? It is possible people don’t remember her because they weren’t paying attention to her because they did not know her and had no reason to pay attention to who was leaving and when and in which car.

This is interesting and I hadn’t heard this yet. Did he mention whether she was asleep in her car, or just remembers a nearby CRV (that could or couldn’t be hers)?

I have read the account of this boy who parked next to her on social media many times but haven't come across the primary source or a name.

 

[SpicyFruit]

What I have found puzzling is that no one besides Sammy has mentioned being in contact with her at the party, even if just in conversation. "oh yea, I was talking to that girl around midnight" stranger or some one she knew. Who was the last person Sammy saw her talking to. You know what I mean? I'm saying, ok you left with another ride, but where was she and who was she talking too, when you parted company? I mean you did not just leave her standing by herself in the woods. She would have been standing in a group at least. Was she talking to a bunch of strangers, did she say, I'm going to go and find so and so, or was she with someone else they knew.

Her other friend Mags is who road with her to the party but did not stay. SS did mention that both her and KR are really social and had walked around talking to a lot of other people, meeting a lot of new people which is where the whole people from SF were there because one person they met was from SF. Maybe others have confirmed talking to her but LE has not said? But really there has only been the two ppl that have confirmed actually communicating to her. Unless I missed one?

 

[LeahBee]

The last ping from Kiely Rodni’s cellphone has placed the missing teenager at the edge of a lake at the campground where she was last seen more than one week ago.

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Captain Sam Brown of the Nevada County Sheriff’s Office revealed at a press conference on Sunday that the last known location from Kiely’s cellphone was at around 12.30am close to Prosser Lake – the constructed reservoir that goes around the campground.

He said that it is difficult to get an “exact pinpoint” for the cellphone location data and that it is also possible that the cellphone did continue to ping after that time.

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“The ping for the data points was near the water. It’s hard to tell an exact pinpoint,” he said.

“Just because it was last pinged there, that doesn’t mean that’s where the phone stopped pinging. There’s lots of reasons why those notifications or data points could be lost.”

Last cellphone ping places missing teenager Kiely Rodni at lake edge

Search of the lake is complicated by the water’s depth of around 57 feet and poor visibility, officials admitted

www.independent.co.uk

I just want to add on before this becomes a whole thing again....
LE stated in that same press conference that the phone ping was just as much on land as it was on water.

jmo

eta: timestamp 3:10

 

[Beekarina]

What I have found puzzling is that no one besides Sammy has mentioned being in contact with her at the party, even if just in conversation. "oh yea, I was talking to that girl around midnight" stranger or some one she knew. Who was the last person Sammy saw her talking to. You know what I mean? I'm saying, ok you left with another ride, but where was she and who was she talking too, when you parted company? I mean you did not just leave her standing by herself in the woods. She would have been standing in a group at least. Was she talking to a bunch of strangers, did she say, I'm going to go and find so and so, or was she with someone else they knew.

100% agree.

It doesn't fit with what we know of Kiely's personality, at least from the interviews about her and from SS describing their behavior at the party.

If Kiely was really flitting about all evening, easily moving between groups of people, meeting all kinds of people, and being sociable, others would definitely remember talking with her, even if they were drunk.

As I mentioned previously, even though there obviously was a lot of drinking and other stuff going on, there would have been young people there who were not seriously impaired, just because there are ALWAYS kids who simply are not wired that way, but still want to go where the fun is, to fit in. They would remember Kiely, at minimum.

Super strange....

 

[Beekarina]

Also? One of my sisters was a serious party girl, back in the 80s She can still tell stories, in detail, all these years later, of parties where she was pretty inebriated, among other things, and so can her friends. She also finds a lot of this very odd. No one remembers Kiely? No one saw her leave? No one saw her talking with anyone as the party ended/the "mass exodus" occurred? Or they're just not talking....

I hope LE is simply not sharing.

 

[Rosiebones]

If Kiely is super social and walked around talking with everyone wouldn't she have said something like " Hi, I'm Kiely" or isn't that the way it is done. Wouldn't someone have remembered that?

 

[SpicyFruit]

Also? One of my sisters was a serious party girl, back in the 80s She can still tell stories, in detail, all these years later, of parties where she was pretty inebriated, among other things, and so can her friends. She also finds a lot of this very odd. No one remembers Kiely? No one saw her leave? No one saw her talking with anyone as the party ended/the "mass exodus" occurred? Or they're just not talking....

I hope LE is simply not sharing.

I have not read anything on the time the party ended but have seen it mentioned here a few times. Do you by chance have a link?

 

[RedHaus]

10) some adults are trying to discourage people and possibly teens coming forward with information

So let's take item #10 from the list of verified LE / MSM facts per my post a few minutes ago.

The full text from the Day 6 presser regarding this item is:

"...some adults are trying to discourage people and possibly teens coming forward with information that could help us locate Kiely. So we'd like to remind everyone again...our interest is not arresting any individuals or prosecuting individuals... holding them accountable for any under age drinking or illicit drug use that did occur, that we know occurred at the Prosser Family Campground Friday evening." Angela Musallam, PIO, Placer County Sheriff's Office.

Presuming this may still be an active fact (and that we don't know of course), I wonder what illegal or embarrassing activity may have occurred the night KR went missing to cause adults to discourage others from coming forward. For the moment I am going to presume it is not illicit drug use or under age drinking that the Sheriff's Office has offered not to prosecute.

Some possible ideas of reasons adults would discourage people from coming forward with information:

1. Illicit drug selling or trading
2. Someone (not necessarily KR) was raped or molested
3. Partiers were racing cars on the streets near the campground
4. Fighting occurred and some people got seriously hurt
5. An underaged group from the party went to a Reno or Tahoe (NV side) casino
6. Some partiers were engaged in explicit sex acts for entertainment
7. Property was damaged (i.e. cars)
8. One or more partiers OD'd on narcotics and were revived by other partiers (NARCAN®)

Not sure why this is important to me, as it may not help find KR. But maybe if we had a clue as to what else was going on at the party that could have endangered KR, scared KR, or attracted a more sinister and older crowd to the party...?

 

[SMK777]

A few thoughts. If KR did get in her car to drive home there is a strong possibility she would plug her phone into the charger. There would have been more pings at least a little bit along the route home. While it is also possible she didn’t plug it in my thought is she would. To me this is a factor that would reduce the probability she and her car are off the road somewhere.

I agree, unless her inebriated state would cause her to neglect to do this.

 

[Beekarina]

If Kiely is super social and walked around talking with everyone wouldn't she have said something like " Hi, I'm Kiely" or isn't that the way it is done. Wouldn't someone have remembered that?

Watching my teens, while not at parties per se, they usually follow one another on social media when meeting new people at events (friends of friends at day parties, sports stuff, etc) I would think some combination, probably, yes?

 

[ChuckInHouston]

100% agree.

It doesn't fit with what we know of Kiely's personality, at least from the interviews about her and from SS describing their behavior at the party.

If Kiely was really flitting about all evening, easily moving between groups of people, meeting all kinds of people, and being sociable, others would definitely remember talking with her, even if they were drunk.

As I mentioned previously, even though there obviously was a lot of drinking and other stuff going on, there would have been young people there who were not seriously impaired, just because there are ALWAYS kids who simply are not wired that way, but still want to go where the fun is, to fit in. They would remember Kiely, at minimum.

Super strange....

Exactly. I mean, there must have been people they actually knew there and sociable or not, people tend to gravitate towards people they know in this environment. When SS and her parted company, had they been in a group of people prior to. So and So from SF, etc. (just for reference) You know what I'm saying. " we were talking to Dick and Jane, blue hat, weird mustache, etc etc. It just doesn't make sense that they met up, talked about a ride, and then KR then vanished into thin air. Also there would have been others they knew there and that SS knew was still there when she left, so hey, go talk to joe blow, he was still there when I left, he may know something. Also, ML rode with KR. Said she was only there for 10min. Left with her BF. Also mentioned guys approaching her about smoking the bong, within min of arriving. So if she was only there 10 min and her BF was not present when guys were asking her to hit the bong (per ML) then where was her BF who she left with?

 

[RedHaus]

These cases always upset me. This one with the outdoor party that got too big, with tons of teens and strangers, the friends leaving early and leaving her alone at the party, police begging for video or picture footage—it is reminiscent of the Chelsea Bruck case and gives me very uneasy vibes. I pray pray pray that this is more innocent and resolved soon. But I feel icky about it.

Late night thoughts:
Lack of pings could be phone dying rather than last location. Possible her phone died, and she went to the car to charge it. Perhaps then someone snuck up to her at her car; or someone offered to drive her home, etc.

I wonder even if (complete speculation, but just to show how messy this stuff can be)—someone could have offered to drive her home but she was drunk & fell asleep in the passenger seat, & say, they decided to go to an after party instead, leaving her in the car, she wakes up and is scared and tries to drive herself home, crashes from a different location, and no one wants to admit they’d last driven/seen her for fear of looking sketchy. Or say she willingly goes to an after party and whoever took her doesn’t want to admit that, knowing that the second location isn’t on the radar, and something happened there. I don’t think we can be sure that just because she wasn’t seen leaving, means that the party was her last location. Someone knows something but I unfortunately think that someone is involved in some way and won’t be coming forward willingly.

*edited to add:
I also am not entirely confident that her last text to her mom saying she’d be leaving in 45min @ 12:15am definitely came from her. She could already have been injured or simply too intoxicated by the time of that text…and even if it wasn’t sinister, a friend could have sent the text on her behalf to let her mom know she’d be home late to give her time to sober up etc. And then something happens and everyone is freaked out. I’m sure if they were all heavily intoxicated there is a lot of confusion of memories about how everything went down, as well. Ugh.

Thank you @dtowndetective411. I had not heard of the CB case until you mentioned it. I don't want to violate WS rules about discussing other cases within the KR case. But I did listen to the 1 hour podcast you linked. And of all the facts that caught my attention in that case, it was the fact that CB's friend ended up with CB's phone by the end of the party. That left CB exceptionally vulnerable - in an intoxicated state she was seen late at the party crying, alone and cold.

That got me wondering, to the point you added to your post - what if KR had given her phone to someone? Perhaps for the 11:30 text to KR's mom, KR gave her phone to someone else to send the text because she was too messed up and just wanted time to sober up before heading home. Then that person who sent the text forgot to give the phone back to KR.

 

[Beekarina]

Exactly. I mean, there must have been people they actually knew there and sociable or not, people tend to gravitate towards people they know in this environment. When SS and her parted company, had they been in a group of people prior to. So and So from SF, etc. (just for reference) You know what I'm saying. " we were talking to Dick and Jane, blue hat, weird mustache, etc etc. It just doesn't make sense that they met up, talked about a ride, and then KR then vanished into thin air. Also there would have been others they knew there and that SS knew was still there when she left, so hey, go talk to joe blow, he was still there when I left, he may know something. Also, ML rode with KR. Said she was only there for 10min. Left with her BF. Also mentioned guys approaching her about smoking the bong, within min of arriving. So if she was only there 10 min and her BF was not present when guys were asking her to hit the bong (per ML) then where was her BF who she left with?

Right.

<modsnip - no link from an approved source>

Related to this, SS (and media sources) have mentioned this was a "senior send off party" and Kiely was considered a senior. Ss also indicated that "all grades" were welcome. This sounds like a very school focused party. <modsnip - no link from an approved source>

Also, Kiely worked in the local Boba Tea shop. quotes from a couple of her coworkers:

“She was literally the most badass person,” said Mesh Depaoli, 16. She worked with Rodni at a local boba tea shop. “You could talk to her about anything,” she said. “She knows the solution for everything.”

Abby Bunker, another co-worker, said Rodni had an illuminating presence. “She walks into a room and she just makes the whole room brighter.”

Kiely Rodni disappearance: Officials turn focus to massive Truckee campground party where she was last seen

The massive search for a missing Truckee teen continued Tuesday afternoon, with law...

www.sfchronicle.com

Long winded way of making the point that I also think it sounds like the party would have had LOTS of people who knew Kiely.

 

[annpats]

Then that person who sent the text forgot to give the phone back to KR.

Or even discarded the phone. Threw it in the lake/trash/ocean.

It's quite possible it could've happened, if someone had Kiely's phone and was pretending to be her (with or without her permission.)

We've got no Kiely, no phone and no car.
Yes, they could all still be together in the same place.....or they all could not be.

This is one of those cases where people DO seem to vanish without trace. You can't believe it's possible, but time and again it happens.

MOO.

 

[PiperAria]

Some possible ideas of reasons adults would discourage people from coming forward with information:

1. Illicit drug selling or trading
2. Someone (not necessarily KR) was raped or molested
3. Partiers were racing cars on the streets near the campground
4. Fighting occurred and some people got seriously hurt
5. An underaged group from the party went to a Reno or Tahoe (NV side) casino
6. Some partiers were engaged in explicit sex acts for entertainment
7. Property was damaged (i.e. cars)
8. One or more partiers OD'd on narcotics and were revived by other partiers (NARCAN®)

Not sure why this is important to me, as it may not help find KR. But maybe if we had a clue as to what else was going on at the party that could have endangered KR, scared KR, or attracted a more sinister and older crowd to the party...?

sbm
My first post on Kiely’s thread but I’ve tried to read every one.
Trying to be brief; I’m on break at work at a construction site
My first thought was someone (likely not one of the teens/students) did something felonious and is threatening enough to keep younger people silent. A very similar situation occurred during my party years; thankfully I had instinctively left the party (bad vibes) before a fight broke out and a young man was killed after someone knocked him out and on his way down, he hit his head on a table. Took so much to get anyone who saw it to talk.
Second thought was that a child of a public figure did something felonious and people are keeping quiet.

All very MOO and speculation; just hadn’t seen those mentioned yet iirc. I do not and have not lived in the area and do not personally know anyone currently living there

 

[ChuckInHouston]

So let's take item #10 from the list of verified LE / MSM facts per my post a few minutes ago.

The full text from the Day 6 presser regarding this item is:

"...some adults are trying to discourage people and possibly teens coming forward with information that could help us locate Kiely. So we'd like to remind everyone again...our interest is not arresting any individuals or prosecuting individuals... holding them accountable for any under age drinking or illicit drug use that did occur, that we know occurred at the Prosser Family Campground Friday evening." Angela Musallam, PIO, Placer County Sheriff's Office.

Presuming this may still be an active fact (and that we don't know of course), I wonder what illegal or embarrassing activity may have occurred the night KR went missing to cause adults to discourage others from coming forward. For the moment I am going to presume it is not illicit drug use or under age drinking that the Sheriff's Office has offered not to prosecute.

Some possible ideas of reasons adults would discourage people from coming forward with information:

1. Illicit drug selling or trading
2. Someone (not necessarily KR) was raped or molested
3. Partiers were racing cars on the streets near the campground
4. Fighting occurred and some people got seriously hurt
5. An underaged group from the party went to a Reno or Tahoe (NV side) casino
6. Some partiers were engaged in explicit sex acts for entertainment
7. Property was damaged (i.e. cars)
8. One or more partiers OD'd on narcotics and were revived by other partiers (NARCAN®)

Not sure why this is important to me, as it may not help find KR. But maybe if we had a clue as to what else was going on at the party that could have endangered KR, scared KR, or attracted a more sinister and older crowd to the party...?

it is not. LE updated in last press conference, stating it was an isolated incident and they were able to work through it.

 

[steeltowngirl]

100% agree.

It doesn't fit with what we know of Kiely's personality, at least from the interviews about her and from SS describing their behavior at the party.

If Kiely was really flitting about all evening, easily moving between groups of people, meeting all kinds of people, and being sociable, others would definitely remember talking with her, even if they were drunk.

As I mentioned previously, even though there obviously was a lot of drinking and other stuff going on, there would have been young people there who were not seriously impaired, just because there are ALWAYS kids who simply are not wired that way, but still want to go where the fun is, to fit in. They would remember Kiely, at minimum.

Super strange....

I would be interested in any additional information that Elsa shared about her possible interactions with Kiely. If anyone has details beyond this article, please share.

August 6, 12 a.m. - Elsa Pekarek who was at the party saw Kiely around 12 a.m.

Timeline: The disappearance of 16-year-old Kiely Rodni

An exact timeline of missing Truckee teenager Kiely Rodndi.

mynews4.com