OK OK - Stephen “Steve” Lee Murphy, last seen in Claremore sometime in 1976, not reported missing until July 2022

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carbuff said:
The Regional Program Specialist contact for this case is Michael Nance

Tulsa Police Department​

(918) 596-9143

Agency Case Number 2022035405

Personally, I would contact Michael Nance first; he's always been helpful and considerate when I've dealt with him. And he might have the name of a specific person to contact at Tulsa PD.
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I sent an email to Mr. Nance. Waiting for a response.
 
Laughing said:
Have you tried posting in any of the Lost & Missing Facebook pages? I don't know much about that, maybe others will chime in. We have posters from the Missing in Michigan group, vibrant & effective bunch.

Have you posted to veteran's sites? Someone who knew Mr. Murphy in the Marines may be able to fill in at least a little. Looks like some missing vets are included here:

www.veterandoe.com

Missing Persons Unidentified Persons

Missing persons who are unidentified in the USA where there is a possible connection to the US Military or veterans. Army Navy Air Force Marines Coast Guard Veterans
www.veterandoe.com

You've covered so much, a thorough search. I'll keep thinking....

That's a great offer on the cousin-sorting!

jmho ymmv lrr
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I will look into this site. Ill try to get his picture and NAMUS number into it as well. I havent been able to find any veteran sites. I did contact a gentleman that would have been in the military about the same time, but he didnt know him.
 
RememberingRyan said:
Anyone (whom you haven't identified) who shows up as being in the 1st-2nd cousin range? Some people in his birth year already have grandchildren and even great grandchildren. If you've got some unidentified matches with lower CMs that would fall into that range (like ~300-1000), those could be children/grandchildren of a half sibling.
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Ive contacted some of my matches that I believe are on paternal side but since that side hasnt really tested they arent really any help.
 
Snoangel26 said:
I will look into this site. Ill try to get his picture and NAMUS number into it as well. I havent been able to find any veteran sites. I did contact a gentleman that would have been in the military about the same time, but he didnt know him.
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@apearn, would any of the resources you found for Florida Paratrooper be useful for finding @Snoangel26's father? Marines 1976, probably on the west coast.
 
Local chapters of these organizations may be able to help:

The Veterans of Foreign Wars of the U.S.

As the largest and oldest war veterans service organization, we have a long and proven history of providing vital assistance and support to America's service members, veterans and their families. From fighting for veterans benefits on Capitol Hill, to financial grants, transition support and...
www.vfw.org www.vfw.org

The American Legion a U.S. Veterans Association

The American Legion is the nation’s largest wartime veterans service organization aimed at advocating patriotism across the U.S. through diverse programs and member benefits.
www.legion.org www.legion.org

or point you in a useful direction.

These veterans can start with Mr. Murphy's expected enlistment date & location. is number would help -- but the VFW or American Legion may lead you to those numbers.

Please keep us posted!
 
Snoangel26 said:
I actually did search bureau of prisons, he wasn't in there. I really don't know if he had a passport or not. Is there a way to find out if he had a passport? I haven't check state prisons individually.
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Okay, this could be a lengthy process. @carbuff asked if you've checked prisons. Each state has it's own system, too. Decades ago I worked for my state government in Child Support Enforcement -- if someone has been in prison, there are records.

I started with Texas, here: https://inmate.tdcj.texas.gov/InmateSearch/start

Oddly enough, there is no Steven Murphy, that's a fairly common name & the Texas Department of Justice is big. We'd often start there, just because there was a huge number of inmates.

Illinois offers a sort of one-stop-shopping:

Offender Search - IDOC

www2.illinois.gov www2.illinois.gov

Now Illinois has 2 inmates named Steven Murphy, both are African-American. Didn't check the other options.

California has no one listed: CDCR Public Inmate Locator Disclaimer

I searched for last name Murphy, first name just ste as there are at least 2 ways to spell Steven/Stephen.

Type (name of state) inmate search, generally will have a .gov address.

Just something to try, the AWOL story indicates Mr. Murphy may have had some legal trouble?

Did you find a divorce decree? Was that by publication? Those documents may have information new to you.

jmho ymmv lrr
 
Laughing said:
Okay, this could be a lengthy process. @carbuff asked if you've checked prisons. Each state has it's own system, too. Decades ago I worked for my state government in Child Support Enforcement -- if someone has been in prison, there are records.

I started with Texas, here: https://inmate.tdcj.texas.gov/InmateSearch/start

Oddly enough, there is no Steven Murphy, that's a fairly common name & the Texas Department of Justice is big. We'd often start there, just because there was a huge number of inmates.

Illinois offers a sort of one-stop-shopping:

Offender Search - IDOC

www2.illinois.gov www2.illinois.gov

Now Illinois has 2 inmates named Steven Murphy, both are African-American. Didn't check the other options.

California has no one listed: CDCR Public Inmate Locator Disclaimer

I searched for last name Murphy, first name just ste as there are at least 2 ways to spell Steven/Stephen.

Type (name of state) inmate search, generally will have a .gov address.

Just something to try, the AWOL story indicates Mr. Murphy may have had some legal trouble?

Did you find a divorce decree? Was that by publication? Those documents may have information new to you.

jmho ymmv lrr
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I got a copy of the divorce papers. It was published in Tulsa Oklahoma for four straight weeks, than my mother was granted the divorce. I didnt check each state. Just the bureau of prisons. The AWOL story i recieved from my Aunt, Im really not sure if she was telling me the truth or if she believed what her mother said. I did try to contact my grandmother over the years with no response from her.
 
carbuff said:
@apearn, would any of the resources you found for Florida Paratrooper be useful for finding @Snoangel26's father? Marines 1976, probably on the west coast.
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I'll dig around and see what comes up.

MCRD San Diego does have recruit yearbooks for sale. It seems like his possible enlistment would be in 1976 if I'm reading this right.

Graduate Memorabilia - Marine Corps Recruit Depot Museum Foundation

We have photos and yearbooks for MCRD San Diego graduates only. You must know your boot camp platoon number and the year you graduated when placing your order.
www.mcrdmuseumfoundation.org www.mcrdmuseumfoundation.org

Also - there are National Archives researchers that work for private citizens and they may be able to get her past the SS # issue. IDK if/how Covid has effected their access.

Deed records for the 7313 E Newton St address may have some more info.
 
apearn said:
I'll dig around and see what comes up.

MCRD San Diego does have recruit yearbooks for sale. It seems like his possible enlistment would be in 1976 if I'm reading this right.

Graduate Memorabilia - Marine Corps Recruit Depot Museum Foundation

We have photos and yearbooks for MCRD San Diego graduates only. You must know your boot camp platoon number and the year you graduated when placing your order.
www.mcrdmuseumfoundation.org www.mcrdmuseumfoundation.org

Also - there are National Archives researchers that work for private citizens and they may be able to get her past the SS # issue. IDK if/how Covid has effected their access.

Deed records for the 7313 E Newton St address may have some more info.
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According to the copy of my parents marriage certificate a certified copy was sent to the V.A. and they got married June 1975. I couldn't find anything online going back to 1975 on the address on E Newton St. Who would I ask about help from National Archive researchers? I requested military records multiple times with the same result as they can't help me or find anything with the little information I have. I will look about the year books for MCRD. Thank you so much.
 
Laughing said:
Local chapters of these organizations may be able to help:

The Veterans of Foreign Wars of the U.S.

As the largest and oldest war veterans service organization, we have a long and proven history of providing vital assistance and support to America's service members, veterans and their families. From fighting for veterans benefits on Capitol Hill, to financial grants, transition support and...
www.vfw.org www.vfw.org

The American Legion a U.S. Veterans Association

The American Legion is the nation’s largest wartime veterans service organization aimed at advocating patriotism across the U.S. through diverse programs and member benefits.
www.legion.org www.legion.org

or point you in a useful direction.

These veterans can start with Mr. Murphy's expected enlistment date & location. is number would help -- but the VFW or American Legion may lead you to those numbers.

Please keep us posted!
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I will go talk with my local representative at the VFW. Might be easier doing that in person. Thank you
 
Snoangel26 said:
According to the copy of my parents marriage certificate a certified copy was sent to the V.A. and they got married June 1975. I couldn't find anything online going back to 1975 on the address on E Newton St. Who would I ask about help from National Archive researchers? I requested military records multiple times with the same result as they can't help me or find anything with the little information I have. I will look about the year books for MCRD. Thank you so much.
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I'd break it down like this:

Talk to the deeds office in the county that house is in and ask them if you can get a copy of the deed. Maybe he is on there and maybe not. Deeds can be rich in information and they are usually like $3 - $5

For MCRD San Diego - Get in touch with them and ask them if someone can check the books for you IF you think you know when he may have been there. They may have only been graduating one or two times a month so that's only 12 to 24 yearbooks a year. Since we know his name it's a fast thing to look up.

Go talk to his high school as well. Officially they probably can't tell you his SS# but if you ask nicely and show them he is officially missing I bet someone may unofficially give it to you.

National Archive Researchers are usually working for themselves so you'd need to Google that. It may be faster to talk to your Congressman's office to get his military records though.
 
I’m very intrigued by your story. When I was searching for information on a deceased family member, I found that if I was super polite and told my story most people were eager to help as much as they could without violating any privacy laws.i got a lot of information by visiting local offices as well as writing letters and making phone calls to out of area places. Privacy laws are more strict these days but it wouldn’t hurt to try.
 
apearn said:
I'd break it down like this:

Talk to the deeds office in the county that house is in and ask them if you can get a copy of the deed. Maybe he is on there and maybe not. Deeds can be rich in information and they are usually like $3 - $5

For MCRD San Diego - Get in touch with them and ask them if someone can check the books for you IF you think you know when he may have been there. They may have only been graduating one or two times a month so that's only 12 to 24 yearbooks a year. Since we know his name it's a fast thing to look up.

Go talk to his high school as well. Officially they probably can't tell you his SS# but if you ask nicely and show them he is officially missing I bet someone may unofficially give it to you.

National Archive Researchers are usually working for themselves so you'd need to Google that. It may be faster to talk to your Congressman's office to get his military records though.
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Thank you. I have been talking to my congressman office. I will get in touch with the high school and see if they can give me anything. I appreciate all the help and suggestions
 
The US Army’s aviation school, where all helicopter pilots are trained is located at Ft Rucker, AL. They employ a lot of helicopter mechanics. Is it possible he could have ties to this area ? Possible locations most of the mechanics live could be Enterprise, Ozark, Daleville, Level Plains.
 
apearn said:
Talk to the deeds office in the county that house is in and ask them if you can get a copy of the deed. Maybe he is on there and maybe not. Deeds can be rich in information and they are usually like $3 - $5
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Since he was only 19 when he lived there, it was probably a rental.
 
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