OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #75

[justtrish]

How much to passports cost?

 

[sunshineray]

Looks like two Walmart receipts were mismarked, as in not correctly distinguished from each other. One was in middle of March 2016 (at a Walmart I didn't catch where) and the other at a Waverly Walmart first week of April 2016. Sure hope that doesn't muck up using those receipts as evidence. Nash looked extremely perplexed by that testimony and went to his computer.

 

[Betty P]

Aha! The forged custody documents with Hanna's forged signature.

 

[Betty P]

How much to passports cost?

They're usually just fees to process, maybe pay for a photo. $60 or $70?

Checked the site, if its a first time passport it costs more - $130

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/passports/forms-fees/Passport%20Fees%20Chart_TSG_JAN%202022.pdf

 

[Chelly]

Oh, man, was it ever. Most exciting, though, was the day Jake confessed. It took a while to sink in.

OT - why were they spending $900 for passports? That just seems a little high. In the old days, kids could be on a parent's passport.

The fact they were even acquiring passports at that time was telling in itself.

 

[sunshineray]

How much to passports cost?

IIRC a couple hundred when alls said and done?

 

[justtrish]

Okay so google is my friend. lol

Passports are roughly $200 for adults and $150 for children under 16. So 4 adults and 2 children (let's just say at that time it was Angela, Billy, Jake, George, Sophia, and Bulvine) That would be $1100 and even with rush fees or something like that, I don't see how it costs over$3,000 for passports. I heard $900, $900, $750, and one other amount I didn't catch. Were they buying fake ones?

 

[Chelly]

Aha! The forged custody documents with Hanna's forged signature.

Thank goodness. Finally connecting the dots!

 

[justtrish]

Also, another point that little ledger of expenses shows it that they were operating as one with the bills too.

 

[Niner]

Okay - lots of pictures so I have to break up the tweets. And I switched to James - he seems to keep up.

James Pilcher
@jamespilcher
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Here is my recap from yesterday's testimony - getting ready to start Day 19 of the Pike County massacre murder trial of George Wagner IV - starting a threa

First up is BCI agent Todd Fortner. He previously testified about processing one of the crime scenes - he will testify about processing more of the Wagners' property under search warrants. More evidence all day today.

He oversaw search of another Wagner property where the family stored trucks and trailers.

The property was divided into scene 1-5.

Here’s what it looked like



BCI had to cut the padlocks off



Found a Gilley camouflage and a jacketed bullet



Also found cheats that included a laptop



Sent that laptop back to the cybercrimes lab for analysis

Plastic tote held several trail cams @Local12
and portfolio with George Wagners name on it



Now on to the truck and trailer. Search warrants were issued by Adams County court.

Totes in back of truck stuffed with documents- this search overall results in finding the Walmart receipt for the shoes

Totes also included newspapers from day after Rhoden murders



link: https://twitter.com/jamespilcher



continued...

 

[Chelly]

Really stupid of AW to leave behind her green notebook loaded with evidence

 

[sunshineray]

The fact they were even acquiring passports at that time was telling in itself.

Well they had to travel through Canada to get to Alaska. I've only been to Canada once, long ago, to Niagara Falls and we just had to show our, then filled out by pen, driver's licences to get in and out, back in the early 70's. I'm sure crossing the border changed drastically since 911. Does Canada require passports now?

 

[Chelly]

@Niner Bless you for posting the tweet reporting. You are able to post a day's worth of tweets in the time it takes me to post one.

 

[Chelly]

Well they had to travel through Canada to get to Alaska. I've only been to Canada once, long ago, to Niagara Falls and we just had to show our, then filled out by pen, driver's licences to get in and out, back in the early 70's. I'm sure crossing the border changed drastically since 911. Die Canada require passports now?

Good point.

 

[Niner]

James Pilcher
@jamespilcher
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3h
Another box in truck had lots of documents @Local12
they don’t say what it is



Found a black ski mask on the floor board of truck



Other documents include legal letter to Jake Wagner

Also included Walmart receipt for electronic camera kit for $299

Another trailer full of stuff covered with a tarp @Local12
took several agents hours to go through



Found a drawer tote with electronics including old cameras, TomTom, samsung cell phone

Also trail cameras



Also found a Glock gun case



But the box clearly says Glock 4 generation - the previous testimony says the shots fired at scene were .40 caliber Glock 2nd generation

Next is brass catcher found in trailer and lock pick set



Better pics of lock picks @Local12
also found Glock magazine loaded and replacement grips



Also found more broken cell phones and different shoes and boots - not the Walmart ones

Found drum magazine and rifle bullet




link: https://twitter.com/jamespilcher


continued....

 

[sunshineray]

Okay - lots of pictures so I have to break up the tweets. And I switched to James - he seems to keep up.

James Pilcher
@jamespilcher
·
3h
Here is my recap from yesterday's testimony - getting ready to start Day 19 of the Pike County massacre murder trial of George Wagner IV - starting a threa

First up is BCI agent Todd Fortner. He previously testified about processing one of the crime scenes - he will testify about processing more of the Wagners' property under search warrants. More evidence all day today.

He oversaw search of another Wagner property where the family stored trucks and trailers.

The property was divided into scene 1-5.

Here’s what it looked like

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BCI had to cut the padlocks off

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Found a Gilley camouflage and a jacketed bullet

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Also found cheats that included a laptop

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Sent that laptop back to the cybercrimes lab for analysis

Plastic tote held several trail cams @Local12
and portfolio with George Wagners name on it

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Now on to the truck and trailer. Search warrants were issued by Adams County court.

Totes in back of truck stuffed with documents- this search overall results in finding the Walmart receipt for the shoes

Totes also included newspapers from day after Rhoden murders

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link: https://twitter.com/jamespilcher



continued...

They kept the newspapers from the day after the murders! Like people did when Kennedy was assassinated or man walked on the Moon!? I'm sorry if my best friend was murdered, I wouldn't have saved the newspapers.

 

[Niner]

James Pilcher
@jamespilcher
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1h
Found a bug detector



Back after 15 minute break. Found paperwork showing George Wagner IV bought a Beretta handgun just a week after the Rhoden murders

They also introduced a Walmart receipt dated 4/7/16 - just two weeks before murders. From Waverly Walmart. But didn't say what it was.

Found another ski mask in another truck



This search was going on the same day BCI agents were searching the Wagners' home at Peterson Road. Both properties are in Adams County.

Wilson asks if the records they found were separated by family member, or mixed together. Fortner says all mixed together. Wilson done with direct examination

Parker on cross: Can you tell who packed the truck? Did you test for DNA? Fortner says no - would not have been probative. Now asking about ski mask found in gooseneck trailer

Wagner says Jake Wagner will testify that he burned his clothes from the murder. Fortner says he did not interview Wagner. But knew some items were burned

Everything could be seen and not hidden. Property belonged to Unlimited Motors. Large cattle trailer/horse trailer that was empty

That finished cross. Redirect: Wilson asks Fortner if that kind of mask used in crimes? Yes. Also could keep DNA from shedding on scene. Fortner says agents were there more than 7 hours.

Parker asks whether wearing a mask would mean someone would not need to dye hair. Yes that would be the case. Now on lunch break until 12:30

They actually introduced three ski masks. One in each truck and another in a trailer.

Next witness after lunch will be the return of BCI special agent Ryan Scheiderer - who will talk about the evidence gathered so far.

Also expected is the return of the records analyst Julia Eveslage - who will probably testify about what they found on the recovered laptops and phones.


link: https://twitter.com/jamespilcher

 

[Betty P]

Well they had to travel through Canada to get to Alaska. I've only been to Canada once, long ago, to Niagara Falls and we just had to show our, then filled out by pen, driver's licences to get in and out, back in the early 70's. I'm sure crossing the border changed drastically since 911. Die Canada require passports now?

Yes, they do and did in 2016, probably.

 

[CIA Team Member]

They're usually just fees to process, maybe pay for a photo. $60 or $70?

Checked the site, if its a first time passport it costs more - $130

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/passports/forms-fees/Passport%20Fees%20Chart_TSG_JAN%202022.pdf

Adults could've just gotten enhanced drivers license for going to Canada. Only other reason to get a passport is to travel internationally.

 

[Betty P]

Adults could've just gotten enhanced drivers license for going to Canada. Only other reason to get a passport is to travel internationally.

Possible.