ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 46

[KonaHonu]

Which is one (of many reasons) that I don’t think he’ll be escorted on a domestic flight.

The federal government runs its own airline for transporting prisoners. It is called JPATS. They charge local jurisdictions for their services. It would cost Latah County Idaho $3417 to have him transported. That seems like a bargain compared to 3 airline tickets (2 guards RT + 1-way for BK), hotel rooms in PA, and salary etc. But who knows what they will do.

Prisoner Transportation | U.S. Marshals Service

In 1995, the air fleets of the Marshals Service and the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement merged to create the Justice Prisoner and Alien

www.usmarshals.gov

 

[everybodhi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610061528169959427

I wonder how much they paid her for that

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[schooling]

My point has always been that LE most likely tracked the car to PA. LE did not say trailed nor followed but tracked. Tracking could have and in MO was after the car had already reached PA. We can surely agree to disagree.
The dates listed were from an earlier detailed post giving the various timelines. If LE had already identified that BK was connected to the Elanta on 12-12 or thereabouts, why would they allow him to travel all the way to PA? JMO

If it comes down to one speculator vs another. I’ll trust the former FBI Director and his interpretation.

So let’s agree to disagree on that point.

Also, earlier reports said LE was waiting on familial DNA to get their probable cause affidavit. Which is what I based my theory on. The latest ABC report contradicts that.

If you’re to believe the ABC report and reject familial dna coming in last second. then that means they knew his name in November. And they let him drive across the country. Completely on his own according to you.

Either way no reporting fits whatever version of the timeline you’re proposing. Unless you want us to ignore a bunch of the reporting I linked.

Edit: can you link the post? I’d love to see the post with the timeline that is not the one I posted.

 

[Ghostwheel]

"With assistance from the District Attorney’s Office, search warrants were obtained for the residence of Kohberger located at 119 Lamsden Drive, Albrightsville (Chestnuthill Township), Monroe County, a vehicle registered to Kohberger, and his person. "
Monroe County DA's office seems to say that the car is registered to Kohberger, imo. bbm

You don't suppose his parent's name is also Kohberger and they got confused, maybe?

 

[XtremeScorpio]

Here is an article providing more details into BK's heroin use, his transformation, and other oddities that people are now noticing in hindsight.

One thing I read, that I hadn't seen before, was that when the subject of the murders came up in class one day, BK just sat there "quiet & deadpan", not saying a word.

Everything revealed about Bryan Kohberger, suspect in the Idaho college murders, since his arrest

Bryan Kohberger was a “creepy” loner who went from being “perpetually exhausted” to eerily “chattier” after his alleged slaughter of four Idaho college students, chilling new details reveal.…

nypost.com

 

[JohnBull]

Very informative report, thanks for posting it.

The forensic team has BK's DNA from the CS. Where was it? Was he injured when Xana defended herself?

Blood is slippery. Did his hand slip on the blade of the weapon? Is that why he left before going downstairs?

Were his hands messy and sticky so he washed them in the kitchen sink before leaving? Crime Scene Detectives typically test water pipes and drains, even check the washing machine for blood.

Did detectives find and mark any shoe prints found around the CS?

Assuming at least one of the victims fought back, he might have stabbed himself in the hand or arm while trying to ward off said victim while furiously continuing the assault.

 

[Seattle1]

I didn't realise BK had a PA defense attorney yet. Is that certain?

As is his right, BK absolutely had counsel appointed to him in PA!

BK appeared before Commonwealth of PA, Monroe County, Mag District Judge Michael Muth on 12/30, and was appointed Pennsylvania public defender Jason Allen LaBar who has made several statements on BK's behalf.

Bryan Kohberger, Suspect in Idaho Murders, Won't Fight Extradition from Pennsylvania

Bryan Kohberger, the 28-year-old man accused of killing four University of Idaho students, will waive his extradition to Latah County, Idaho, a move that will accelerate the process of return to the community where the crimes were committed. Kohberger’s public defender in Monroe County, Pa...

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

Kohberger's public defender in Monroe County, Pa., where he was arrested by authorities Friday, made the announcement in a press release on Saturday afternoon.

"Mr. Kohberger intends to waive his extradition hearing to expedite his transport to Idaho," attorney Jason Allen LaBar, the chief public defender for Monroe County and Kohberger's counsel for the extradition hearing, said.

"Mr. Kohberger has been accused of very serious crimes," the statement continued, "but the American justice system cloaks him in a veil of innocence. He should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise - not tried in the court of public opinion. One should not pass judgment about the facts of the case unless and until a fair trial in court at which time all sides may be heard and inferences challenged."

"Mr. Kohberger is eager to be exonerated of these charges and looks forward to resolving these matters as promptly as possible," LaBar added.

Kohberger's extradition hearing had been scheduled for Tuesday afternoon. His arrest took place at a home in Chestnuthill Township on Friday, court docs say. Pennsylvania State Police say they assisted the FBI, the Moscow Police, and the Idaho State Police in the arrest.

 

[cottonweaver]

As is his right, BK absolutely had counsel appointed to him in PA!

BK appeared before Commonwealth of PA, Monroe County, Mag District Judge Michael Muth on 12/30, and was appointed Pennsylvania public defender Jason Allen LaBar who has made several statements on BK's behalf.

Bryan Kohberger, Suspect in Idaho Murders, Won't Fight Extradition from Pennsylvania

Bryan Kohberger, the 28-year-old man accused of killing four University of Idaho students, will waive his extradition to Latah County, Idaho, a move that will accelerate the process of return to the community where the crimes were committed. Kohberger’s public defender in Monroe County, Pa...

www.nbcphiladelphia.com

Kohberger's public defender in Monroe County, Pa., where he was arrested by authorities Friday, made the announcement in a press release on Saturday afternoon.

"Mr. Kohberger intends to waive his extradition hearing to expedite his transport to Idaho," attorney Jason Allen LaBar, the chief public defender for Monroe County and Kohberger's counsel for the extradition hearing, said.

"Mr. Kohberger has been accused of very serious crimes," the statement continued, "but the American justice system cloaks him in a veil of innocence. He should be presumed innocent until proven otherwise - not tried in the court of public opinion. One should not pass judgment about the facts of the case unless and until a fair trial in court at which time all sides may be heard and inferences challenged."

"Mr. Kohberger is eager to be exonerated of these charges and looks forward to resolving these matters as promptly as possible," LaBar added.

Kohberger's extradition hearing had been scheduled for Tuesday afternoon. His arrest took place at a home in Chestnuthill Township on Friday, court docs say. Pennsylvania State Police say they assisted the FBI, the Moscow Police, and the Idaho State Police in the arrest.

sorry yes, I thought you meant a second attorney ( besides Lebar) I should 've been clearer

 

[ReyInVA]

I’m not really sure what to think about it. I’d have to believe that the FBI would clue Indians state police (assuming he was pulled over on the interstate) about a quadruple murder suspect under surveillance driving through their state…

But who knows. Once is a coincedence….twice? Hmmm

Federal agents can go about their investigative business without notifying local law enforcement.

Source: my spouse is a federal agent.

MOO, IMO, etc.

 

[XtremeScorpio]

Sounds like Latah County needs to think very hard about getting good representation for BK, especially if these end up being DP charges (I assume they are). Surely the county prosecutor and the state AG realize how badly it reflects on them if BK ends up getting a favorable judgment on appeal if they didn't provide adequate qualified counsel. It's a no-brainer, JMO.

I can't stop the thinking that he, at some point, will announce he want to represent himself. With his conflated ego, I can't see him allowing a public defender to represent him, and (without trying to sound judgemental) I don't think his parents can afford a top notch attorney.

JMO

 

[wary]

INSANITY DEFENSE in ID & WA? BCK's ACTIONS, REAL or RUSE?

@wary Good point. Maybe he assumed insanity defense was available in all states, like in PA. his home state.

OTOH, is this hypo possible?
Perp plans to commit horrific crime in WA, where he knows state allows insanity defense in crim cases.
One day/night, impulsively carries out plan in ID., a state w no insanity defense. Oops.

Maybe he was never aware ID does not allow insanity defense, or maybe it just slipped his mind. Moscow is a quick, short drive from Pullman apt.

His "unusual behavior" in PA jail now --- real? Or a ruse which he thinks may help him? IDK.
[EDIT: Adding link re his (alleged) actions in jail.
'I cut them, I'll cut you': Idaho 'killer' shows genitals in jail rant ]

Now, Brian Entin, a reporter, says that the story isn’t true—that it was a different jail inmate who behaved like that.

I’m tentatively ready to assume that Entin has the right story—until further notice, at least. <modsnip>

 

[schooling]

Federal agents can go about their investigative business without notifying local law enforcement.

Source: my spouse is a federal agent.

MOO, IMO, etc.

I wasn’t implying that they couldn’t. Or that they needed permission. I just thought it might be courteous to say “hey we have this guy that we think brutally murdered 4 people coming through your state and we don’t have enough to arrest him. and if we lose him he might brutally murder more people”.

But I could see how that wouldn’t be logistically realistic, plausible, and maybe unnecessary.

 

[Vegasgrl]

After reading through most of the threads here ( I love this place), and accessing links, and using past knowledge from other violent crime cases, I agree with the poster that suggested that BK is an "injustice collector". He may take a plea at some point (possibly to save his life), but he wants everyone to know his plight. He wants everyone to know what leads a man to commit this crime.
I don't think he's a killer that will take enjoyment or satisfaction from seeing the victim's families in court. He doesn't care one way or another. But he wants everyone to know he's been wronged, bullied, rejected by young women that he pursued. He likely knows in detail every perceived slight in his entire life, and thinks somehow his parents will eventually understand - once they see the whole picture. His picture.
I don't think from the perspective of the victims, that they could have done anything to avert this tragedy. They were young, hard working and kind people that somehow fell into the sight of this very disturbed individual. But, I feel very certain that others knew that he was a menace, and when rejected by women would become extremely upset. The example that I think is crucial is the owner and the female workers at the bar in PA. The owner, IMO, was very reasonable when confronting BK when he returned to the bar. He didn't kick him out or call him names. He explained the facts - you can't mistreat employees or call someone a *advertiser censored*, and BK left. Someone else may have said, "I apologize, I had a bad day, I had too much to drink", whatever... BK just left and never returned.

 

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610140368489644033

 

[cottonweaver]

Thanks for this @Cindizzi .
I no longer find NN to be a credible source.
I used to love it but I can no longer recommend it.
Edit, sorry @cottonweaver, it was you I should have tagged.

yep
why didn't they just interview the brother directly ( he's already done separate interviews this week) rather than ask the sister to relay what the brother has said.

 

[Palinsmom]

My point has always been that LE most likely tracked the car to PA. LE did not say trailed nor followed but tracked. Tracking could have and in MO was after the car had already reached PA. We can surely agree to disagree.
The dates listed were from an earlier detailed post giving the various timelines. If LE had already identified that BK was connected to the Elanta on 12-12 or thereabouts, why would they allow him to travel all the way to PA? JMO

Possibly waiting on DNA?
Just a guess on my part. I’m sure we will all find out at some point in time.
I’m thinking that ALL OF US ARE GUESSING at this point in time. Lol

 

[Jealoushe]

I have a close family member who was and probably still is a meth user. It is pure he double LL to deal with. Meth users literally lose their minds. It is go go go for days til they crash. Steal from anybody. Lie. Live in their cars packed down with possessions and go from sofa to sofa.

Just reading about BK’s rapid weight loss (and ability to keep it off), the running long distances, gaunt looking, up all night per neighbors. Coffee drinking - which meth users do to boost their high with caffeine. I really believe meth was his thing. Not heroin. Would not doubt if he was using meth in WA.

Agree. The users I knew also took percs when they couldn't get meth to keep them going. He may have done the same. His teeth will tell the story if we see him smiling *shudder*.

 

[cottonweaver]

I can't stop the thinking that he, at some point, will announce he want to represent himself. With his conflated ego, I can't see him allowing a public defender to represent him, and (without trying to sound judgemental) I don't think his parents can afford a top notch attorney.

JMO

afaik I know ( Angenette Levy's timeline) parents have already said that they will not be able to afford anything other than a PD for any future trial in Idaho.

 

[wary]

Oh ok. I haven’t seen that, so if there’s another attorney I didn’t know about them. It moves so fast it’s hard to keep up!

I wonder if people could have been talking about the Idaho attorney he’ll have to get, as well as the Pennsylvania one he has now? Or, there was talk here today that he’d need to have two Idaho death-penalty-qualified attorneys? Could one of those ideas have produced the ‘two attorneys’ concept?

Just my wild speculation

 

[DeDee]

Yes, it has been reported that his phone pinged as often being at the same locations as the victims for 2 or 3 weeks prior to the murders. And yes, it does appear that he may have been stalking his victims but don't forget, we have not seen any proof of that AND BK still has to be considered innocent UNTIL proven guilty, per the U.S Constitution.

In regards to BK breaking into their King Rd house, police have already said numerous times that there was no sign of forced entry so, technically, he did not break in......unless he was "that good" so as to not leave a sign or you know something I don't.

Bryan Christopher Kohberger, 28, was arrested in his home state of Pennsylvania and charged with four counts of murder in the first degree, as well as felony burglary in connection with the stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho students in November, according to Latah County Prosecutor Bill Thompson.

Authorities tracked the Idaho student killings suspect cross-country to Pennsylvania, sources say | CNN