CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered @ Home - Toronto #20

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But there is no indication that the shoes HS was wearing in this picture are the same shoes she was wearing when murdered?
If HS was in fact wearing her slip on shoes at the time of her murder, it is surprising that they did not fall off her feet when she was (presumably) moved to the swimming pool railing, imo.
2020 rbbm.
“Jonathon does not know if his parents took their shoes off when going into the house.” Other people interviewed by the police were also asked this question. The documents do not explain why police are asking, though it is possible it relates to specific details of how the Shermans were dressed when they were found.''

''In her interview, Alex is asked about shoes and she says her mother wore a pair of “black slip-on shoes” in the house and outside the home.''
 
I know LE dismissed the possibility of robbery based in part on the contents of their wallets Found in the house. But the one item that could have actually been stolen from the house, was HS‘ will. if it existed. LE could not have known that at the time, but that document may have been worth infinitely more than cash or jewellery to the murderer.
 
I know LE dismissed the possibility of robbery based in part on the contents of their wallets Found in the house. But the one item that could have actually been stolen from the house, was HS‘ will. if it existed. LE could not have known that at the time, but that document may have been worth infinitely more than cash or jewellery to the murderer.
I think if a will for HS did exist, her lawyer would have made that information known to the courts. If some lawyer had drawn up a will for HS, this case has so much publicity, the lawyer would have known HS was deceased. There would be no way, ethically, that she/he would have kept that information silent.

After five years, I believe it is safe to assume no will for HS existed, and one was not taken from the Sherman residence.
 
I think if a will for HS did exist, her lawyer would have made that information known to the courts. If some lawyer had drawn up a will for HS, this case has so much publicity, the lawyer would have known HS was deceased. There would be no way, ethically, that she/he would have kept that information silent.

After five years, I believe it is safe to assume no will for HS existed, and one was not taken from the Sherman residence.
I agree that is the most likely. But she could have taken an unexecuted or draft copy home and executed it there. With BS as a witness. Or drafted a new one based on that draft, again signing it with perhaps BS as a witness. I guess we may never know for certain.
 
Regarding HS’s personal will—We know at least one person claimed she had updated her will just prior to her murder, but KD reported she died intestate.


A recent case touched on the same topic. Brian Walshe was charged with murder in relation to his wife’s disappearance. As the story unfolded the press looked into his background and found that he was also implicated in fraud regarding his father’s estate.

“The only reason the world knows that the father of Brian Walshe left a will is that a friend took a cellphone picture of it.

Walshe is accused of destroying the will, which spells out in writing that he had been essentially disinherited by his father.

"I hereby bequeath to Brian R. Walshe my best wishes but nothing else from my estate," reads the will for Dr. Thomas Walshe…

…Brian is accused of taking the will out of his father's house in Hull and destroying it, and then selling the contents of the home, including jewelry, a car and artwork, including an original Salvador Dali painting.

But another friend of Dr. Walshe's — Jeffrey Ornstein — had taken a picture of the will with his cell phone.”

If that person hadn’t taken a photo of it just prior to Brian allegedly destroying it he might have gotten away with it. It is the only proof that his father couldn’t have destroyed it himself as Brian claimed.

The father’s lawyer and his friends did know of the will, but without the original signed document they would have been in a difficult position without that cell phone photo.
 
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I have difficulty understanding that if indeed multiple murderers/intruders escorted Barry down to the pool area, wrapped a belt around his neck, tied his wrists together and hung him without a struggle?!
We know there wasn’t defensive wounds, lacerations, bruises on Barry as a result of any resistance.
Why would he simply cooperate and willingly allow himself to be hung like a stuffed pig?!?!
 
I have difficulty understanding that if indeed multiple murderers/intruders escorted Barry down to the pool area, wrapped a belt around his neck, tied his wrists together and hung him without a struggle?!
We know there wasn’t defensive wounds, lacerations, bruises on Barry as a result of any resistance.
Why would he simply cooperate and willingly allow himself to be hung like a stuffed pig?!?!
He might have assumed that whomever was in the house wanted money or something along those lines, so he probably did not anticipate that cooperating with that person would result in death. That is, he might not have realized until it was too late that murder was the goal.
 
I have difficulty understanding that if indeed multiple murderers/intruders escorted Barry down to the pool area, wrapped a belt around his neck, tied his wrists together and hung him without a struggle?!
We know there wasn’t defensive wounds, lacerations, bruises on Barry as a result of any resistance.
Why would he simply cooperate and willingly allow himself to be hung like a stuffed pig?!?!
They may have had a weapon, and he knew that Honey was is the home and in danger, so he cooperated thinking that he was the primary target.

He would have likely thought of his children and grandchildren at that moment as well, thinking they’d be at risk if he didn’t comply.

I think they restrained his hands and loosely tied him to the railing with the belt. He wasn’t in the position to fight back at that point.

My view only based on what we know of the case.
 
I have difficulty understanding that if indeed multiple murderers/intruders escorted Barry down to the pool area, wrapped a belt around his neck, tied his wrists together and hung him without a struggle?!
We know there wasn’t defensive wounds, lacerations, bruises on Barry as a result of any resistance.
Why would he simply cooperate and willingly allow himself to be hung like a stuffed pig?!?!
Understand that 'experts' in the field of hand to hand combat, have the ability to immobilize their victim without a struggle. Barry was 75 years old, not known for his strength or athletic ability. There are numerous examples on the web, Here is one. Barry would have no defensive wounds, and would be quite compliant when held this way.
The attacker likely had his own arms covered, so no DNA under Barry's fingernails.


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I have difficulty understanding that if indeed multiple murderers/intruders escorted Barry down to the pool area, wrapped a belt around his neck, tied his wrists together and hung him without a struggle?!
We know there wasn’t defensive wounds, lacerations, bruises on Barry as a result of any resistance.
Why would he simply cooperate and willingly allow himself to be hung like a stuffed pig?!?!
It would appear that whoever restrained him had used a technique similar to using a straitjacket to immobilize him. Pulling his coat slightly behind his back and arms and zip-tying his hands together behind his back. Then he may have been choked by someone pulling a zip tie around his neck from behind. This must have happened very fast by someone who knew how to do this. This isn't something that someone would be able to do unless they knew how to do it before.
 
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He might have assumed that whomever was in the house wanted money or something along those lines, so he probably did not anticipate that cooperating with that person would result in death. That is, he might not have realized until it was too late that murder was the goal.
Sometimes people are more off guarded about things when it's someone who they know.
 
Sometimes people are more off guarded about things when it's someone who they know.
Perhaps, but it's also possible that with someone they know - people will immediately push back simply because they know who they're dealing with. With an unpredictable, unknown stranger, people may be inclined to cooperate in the beginning to give themselves time to assess the situation.
 
I have difficulty understanding that if indeed multiple murderers/intruders escorted Barry down to the pool area, wrapped a belt around his neck, tied his wrists together and hung him without a struggle?!
We know there wasn’t defensive wounds, lacerations, bruises on Barry as a result of any resistance.
Why would he simply cooperate and willingly allow himself to be hung like a stuffed pig?!?!
Has LE ever confirmed that there were no bruises or defensive wounds on BS? Such markings could be under the clothing. All we have been told afaik is that there was some Blood visible on HS face.
Try this order of things, I‘m pretty sure you will agree this makes more sense: Restrain wrists. Escort to pool area. Strangle. Drag to railing Area. Wrap belt around neck and railing.
 

Feb 13 2023​

''Who gets to tell the murder story of Barry and Honey Sherman?''​

More than five years have passed since the still-unsolved murders of philanthropists Barry and Honey Sherman in their Toronto home. Despite a $35-million reward for clues to solve their killing, the case remains a mystery.

Conspiracy theories abound over who did it and why, with fingers being pointed at the Clintons, Big Pharma, the Sherman children, a cousin or even the Mossad. Police haven’t released any clues in more than a year. But interest is about to heat up again as two major Canadian news outlets give the story the true-crime treatment, each releasing podcasts about the Shermans—this same month.

The two shows take very different approaches. One is hosted by Kevin Donovan, the Toronto Star reporter who broke most of the Sherman case and wrote a book about it; the other, produced by the CBC, is hosted by Jewish journalist Kathleen Goldhar. She has produced previous hit shows about a romance scammer and the cult that ensnared two Bronfman sisters.

Today, both podcasters join The CJN Daily to explain why they have been pursuing the case for years and whether either of their competing shows actually provide closure to the unsolved mystery.

What we talked about:.
 
Information that was new to me last week (can anyone add to this?):

-Barry’s phone was found on the floor with the home inspection report and his driving gloves.

-the housekeeper picked up more than one newspaper from the front door. KD previously reported the *one* had been found. They had the Star delivered to them every morning and Barry would routinely be reading in the kitchen by 8:30 am.

-two iPads were found in the master bedroom where Honey slept.

-Barry slept in a different bedroom because of snoring issues. The housekeeper said his bed was made, but not in the way she would usually find it. That is the same thing that was previously reported about Honey’s bed.

-the driveway was heated, but one side of the ramp leading to the underground garage was not working. That is where the furnace repair man noted that he saw ‘old’ frozen footprints.

-Barry *sometimes* used the underground garage where his car was found on December 15th.

-Honey’s wallet was found out in the open in the kitchen on the main floor. It contained $7500 in cash. The Star doesn’t know where Barry’s wallet was found, but it contained $372 dollars, credit & loyalty cards.

-there was more detail on the Star diagram of both victims, and Honey’s footwear appear to be slip on shoes similar to slippers or sandals. This is an important detail as there were drag marks in the pool area and the theory is that she had been attacked and possibly killed in another location and dragged there, but it’s surprising the shoes stayed on or were placed back in her feet if that’s true. Barry seemed to have regular dress shoes on, based on the illustration.

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-Star sources say the cash and portable valuables left at the scene contributed to LE’s m/s theory and why the police tried to calm neighbours’ fears that this was a robbery gone wrong. There had been many break-ins in the neighborhood prior to the murders.

-the CBC and the Star both have podcasts on the case with February start dates. As KW previously stated, a documentary based on KD’s work will be released this year.

-KD said in an interview that he believes the ‘Night Walker’ suspect may have been a lookout.

-KD also said he believes the killer or killers are local and the police are trying to obtain financial information linked to them in 5 foreign countries, some of which do not have a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty agreement with Canada.

I’m stumped with the last one. Any theories? I know KD previously reported about the foreign countries but he has now added the details about what they may be looking into. The Shermans had close ties to Israel and the US, but KD indirectly said the US is not one of the countries (he described all five as being ‘overseas’).

(My only guess is that it’s Barry’s money or valuables, but it’s listed under someone else’s name and they’re linked to the crime.)

The Star previously reported that at the time of his death, Barry had $1 billion invested in a Bahamas bank. I’d think based on that there were similar investments in other countries.
 
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He might have assumed that whomever was in the house wanted money or something along those lines, so he probably did not anticipate that cooperating with that person would result in death. That is, he might not have realized until it was too late that murder was the goal.
You’re serious?!?!
 
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