I see where you're coming from - but ohhh no. She was only skilled in the way of manipulation, and I don't believe Al didn't know she wasn't abusing his children but he probably just viewed it as "discipline" and didn't realize how bad it was. And I'm sure if Gannon or his sister went to complain to their dad about how badly they were being treated, Al likely thought they were exaggerating - but I bet their mama believed them. I don't believe Tee is insane but I think she probably has a very bad case of untreated borderline personality disorder (again my 2c)
If she was smart, she would not have Googled the things she did. She wouldn't have paid for a fake (prank) lie detector test lol. She would have a REAL degree and not one from a random online 'school' that nobody's heard of. If she was smart, she wouldn't have gone after Spencer for that interview and coached her teenage daughter on what to say while her mic was still on.
It seems, tragically, that many people make excuses for these kinds of people and tend to include them in their lives + lives of children because "they can't be that bad" or some other dumb excuse. They know excommunicating someone from their lives can and will stir the pot and some people will do ANYTHING... A N Y T H I N G to avoid stirring the pot amongst family, friends, local community. Don't ask me why because hell if I know, I've never had a problem telling people to stick it where the sun don't shine when necessary. A good example would probably be the Utah case of Susan and Josh Powell, and Josh's terrifying dad who was obsessed with Susan.
I think we're agreeing. You say you do not believe Al did NOT know and I don't think so either. I think he knew that she used corporal punishment on the kids, esp. Gannon.
I never said Tee was skilled, I said she was insane, defective, lacked character and abused the children. None of those are "skills" from my POV.
I never said she was smart. I am well aware and was likely the first to post the evidence that she went to a degree mill, lost job after job, etc. I know what a university is and isn't and have posted about it many times in re: Letecia Stauch. I think I was saying this even before Gannon was found.
I have no clue how you read my post that way.
Who in the world is making excuses for LS? It can't be very many people or I wouldn't be stopping by this thread. Those of us who have been here from the beginning do NOT make excuses for her, and WSers in general do not, either. IMO. I don't see how that's a tragedy, really. People can be soft-hearted, or evil-minded, neither is a tragedy. Most people still don't murder children. THAT is the tragedy, not whether or not people believe in evil or LS's craziness.
I personally don't like being told off, and pretty much take the approach of expressing myself calmly and moving on.
And excommunicating people from my life has never stirred a single pot. Indeed, I am pretty sure the characters in my own life simply assume I'm quite a busy person, with a full time job and a consulting business, and besides, I'm a hermit. But I do not allow any more crazy people close to me - not even on FB (which I frequent about once a month).
Excommunicating people is a way of setting boundaries. I believe the research shows that the ONLY thing that a family member can do with such people is to go low contact or no contact. It makes them less manipulative, as they can't play people against each other, as they do. Telling people off is what causes the high feelings and the drama, IMO.
Even better if the person is behind bars and the rest of us can walk free. I work in mental health research and I have my views on her Dx, but I'm not sharing them right now. OTOH, I am not sure we have a clear category to put her in and the Dx you suggest doesn't even begin to cover the bases, IMO.
MOO.
