Did Morphey know what he was involved in?

[dee10134]

Dee is there a place where the Cal Sag and Sanitary shipping Canal meet?

East of Lemont. Near 111th Street. The Cal Sag Channel goes Southeast from there while the S&S continues Northeast, following the path of I-55.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Oh Suzi Q, Drew has got so much explaining to do now doesn't he. I am so glad that Thomas has Walter for a friend..what a stand up guy he is.

 

[SuziQ]

The Cal Sag is no where near Shorewood. It's about 40 miles East.

The DuPage River runs directly through Shorewood. The Des Plaines is due east from Shorewood and is where the riverboat casino is located.

Thanks, I pulled google up and what you are saying is making sense now. lol.

 

[cheko1]

I hope they find her soon! So the scum can be arrested & get the kids out safely. I seriously don't think Drew will be a model prisoner to arrest.

 

[DeltaDawn]

East of Lemont. Near 111th Street. The Cal Sag Channel goes Southeast from there while the S&S continues Northeast, following the path of I-55.

Would there be fairly easy access to the water there..not to throw over a barrel or container..I think Drew got rid of them somewhere else..but would he be able to toss a hundred lbs body into the water from there?

 

[dee10134]

Delaney posted this in the barrel thread

Holy $hit! My mother lives two houses away from the bridge "on the floodplain" as the local Lockport "Porters" call it. It's called "the plain" because it's land located between the Des Plaines river and the I&M Canal.

The bridge in question is VERY difficult to stop on. Let alone to stop, dump a body, and have no one see you. VERY HEAVY TRAFFIC ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT and VERY narrow shoulders. It's just a two lane divided highway. It connects I-53 and IL-171 (State Street).

However, it would be quite easy for someone to access the waterways if they went into the residential area underneath the bridge........ it's not very populated "on the floodplain" and there are relatively few streetlights there.....

 

[SuziQ]

Oh Suzi Q, Drew has got so much explaining to do now doesn't he. I am so glad that Thomas has Walter for a friend..what a stand up guy he is.

Walter may have saved Thomas' life. Drew couldn't have that secret out there for long. We know what happened to Stacy because of her secret.

 

[dee10134]

Would there be fairly easy access to the water there..not to throw over a barrel or container..I think Drew got rid of them somewhere else..but would he be able to toss a hundred lbs body into the water from there?

Possibly, IF he had someone's help to drag the body. There is access to both the river and the canal in the IL-171/IL-83 area...

BUT... it is heavily wooded on both sides of the canal AND the river. Someone would have to help but it appeared that DP was able to EASILY carry Stacy when she was alive... so it's possible he could have parked by one of the junkyards over there and walked her body to the water and threw her in...

IDK if Morphey was involved in all of that. Sounds like DP could have handled that on his own if he was able to pick Stacy up (evident by the photos from that recent wedding).

 

[SuziQ]

Dee. I am looking at a google map. Is it west 9th street?

 

[dee10134]

Yes, it's also known as 159th Street and IL-7, but after the bridge it becomes Renwick. I know, very confusing. If you look, IL-7 turns and goes south down IL-53 at the end of the bridge.

We call it the 9th Street bridge or "the bridge to Romeoville" LOL.

 

[SuziQ]

Yes, it's also known as 159th Street and IL-7, but after the bridge it becomes Renwick. I know, very confusing. If you look, IL-7 turns and goes south down IL-53 at the end of the bridge.

We call it the 9th Street bridge or "the bridge to Romeoville" LOL.

Yes I see it, it does turn into Renwick. I'll post a link. Your mother needs to get her butt down there and tell us what's going on! lol.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...88.063316&spn=0.043584,0.080166&t=p&z=14&om=1

 

[Trino]

BUT... it is heavily wooded on both sides of the canal AND the river. Someone would have to help but it appeared that DP was able to EASILY carry Stacy when she was alive... so it's possible he could have parked by one of the junkyards over there and walked her body to the water and threw her in...

Wouldn't a body float? Would DP's car have had mud on it? I wonder if the car has been examined for this.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I think that Drew dropped Morphy off and then went on about his business later..a dark Sunday night, light traffic, most people in Bed by 11:30 PM to start the work week on Monday.. I think Drew could accomplish the task himself..and could have even put her body in the box in the car by himself..he wanted Thomas fingerprints and DNA there..so he could frame him too as well as Rosettto...that SOB..he isn't human , no warm blood flows threw Drew's viens..he's a reptile...with no conscious..the kids need tobe removed from that house to a safe house ASAP... because this whole thing is going to blow wide open in a matter of days..now that the barges and divers are getting ready.

 

[SuziQ]

Wouldn't a body float? Would DP's car have had mud on it? I wonder if the car has been examined for this.

In pics of the Denali on a towtruck, there is dried mud around the wheels.

A body only floats if it's free to. According to Walter Martinek, the container was a sealed blue tote. Not sure why Drew needed help with that.

 

[grace60]

I think Drew's earlier statements of Stacy being on antidepressants goes along with him using Tom in his grand scheme of things. He probably did offer her pills to him as a reason to get him over to his house. If Tom took some of them then...it could explain his memory lapses. Drew preys on the weaknesses in people and he is a master of manipulation.

Why would Tom stay at the coffee shop waiting on Drew for as long as he did? Didn't this strike him as odd behavior? He is invited out for coffee and the guy bolts? What did Drew tell Tom about where Stacy was at that time of the night and why Stacy wasn't there to help him load the barrel or container? Why didn't Drew have the oldest son help load an "innocent" container in the back of his vehicle? Did the children see Uncle Tom that night? (It was early enough they would have been awake and able to verify he was at least there.)

I wondered if Drew knew Tom was on antidepressants. He knew they were in his system and slipped some of Stacy's into Toms drinks a few at a time.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Wouldn't a body float? Would DP's car have had mud on it? I wonder if the car has been examined for this.

A body would not flost if it was weighted down with scuba weight, bricks, cinder blocks..etc.

I would think Drew may have popped by a car wash self serve on the way home. Those never get all the dirt off my car. the drive through ones, but the get the majority of it and they only take a few minutes to go through.

 

[DeltaDawn]

The sealed blue tote and even the barrel would float..which is why I beleive the barrel is a red herring and why Drew was suddenly so relaxed..he felt that if they were looking for the barrel that all was well.

I am sure he would not leave her body in either..he would want aquatic life and the water to do it's job..which they couldn't do if she was enclosed in either the box or a barrel. Both the box and barrel are so common place that just putting them in a dumpster or pitching them in a dump area would be all that was needed to seal the deal.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Well the Army Corps of Eng is going to drege the area to remove the old cars, trucks, trailers..then the divers will come in and hopefully be safe while looking for the body of Stacy.

Dee if your Mom lives near she probably will be able to see the drudging etc going on..I would think alot of people would be there to watch the Army Corps do their thing with their massive barges that dredge. The dredging is just to remove debris so the divers are safe in their search, so there isn't as much for them to get tangled up in water.

 

[SeekingJana]

From the interview with Thomas friend, this is the friend Tom turned to after the moving event with Drew..Thomas did not know what the was getting into and thought he was just helping move a box..but then because it was warm, about Stacy's weight, etc Thomas got suspisious..I feel for Thomas..I think he is another vic of Drew's. Drew probably hoped Tom would leave fingerprints and DNA behind..as well as if there was Stacy's DNA on the box he touched.
Then he was not only trying to frame Scott R but also his brother if Scott R story didn't pan out the way Drew hoped it would with cell pings..

And I absolutely do not beleive he is having memeory lapses..I think Thomas told everything not only to his friend but the police..the memory lapses was probably leaked to insure Thomas and his friends safety..Drew you can't go after someone who just can't remember can you?

IDK about the rest of you, but I am praying for Thomas M. to recover all of his memories and overcome his current problems with professional help, to get his legs underneath him, so to speak, and to be safe and protected. Maybe the golden opportunity to both redeem/exonerate himself and to put DP away will be very appealing to him when he regains his self- esteem and sobriety.

 

[dee10134]

In pics of the Denali on a towtruck, there is dried mud around the wheels.

A body only floats if it's free to. According to Walter Martinek, the container was a sealed blue tote. Not sure why Drew needed help with that.

By analyzing the mud, wouldn't they be able to get a better idea of where it came from and thus, a better idea of where to search?