kageykaren
Lindsey Love, Universal Child your are the star &
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Thank you Pat Brown on the Today Show !!! What path did KC take through the woods? "Psychopath" .
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Just one more note:
But I do have a nagging question about PPD and PPP (yes, I KNOW they are radically different): Can symptoms vary from one individual to another? For example, one person could be lethargic (gee, could 1 hour of sleep a day cause that?) whereas, another person could be agitated and manic?
Thank you Pat Brown on the Today Show !!! What path did KC take through the woods? "Psychopath" .
I also wonder if someone was already say bi-polar or had some other mental defect, if it would be enhanced or altered by that?
Oh - and not everyone who has an early miscarriage necessarily goes to the doctor...we also don't have KC's medical records to know whether or not she had a miscarriage. This is basically a supposition based on her statement regarding the miscarriage, not that anyone here believes her. I do believe that it could come up at trial...which is why I mentioned it.
That it could come up at trial: that's what I asked, if the defense could possibly try to use it. I guess we will see.
Just had to write my thoughts for the Anthony's on this sad Holiday. Regardless of what anyone might think of them, they were loving grandparents. I see them surrounded by everything that was Caylee, her room, toys, outside playhouse, the pool, child-sized picnic table & hundreds of her playthings. She was their world, & I can't imagine what it must be like to wake every morning in the presence of all of what WAS her!, & knowing it will be nevermore. It is tragic & more than a nightmare!
So, on this Christmas Eve, I feel we should pray for them in any way you can. Right or wrong, with all their human frailities, they are suffering more than I would ever want to imagine.
:hug: I have had issues with Psychosis (I honestly meant no harm to anyone in admitting I was frustrated with the terms Bipolar OR Psychotic being used to describe Casey. I just hate stigma) for as long as I can remember so I totally get what you mean about psychosis being terrifying. It is- it's like your mind have been taken over and there is nothing you can do about it. You lose interest in your own personal hygiene, you withdrawl from people, you become unable to focus on anything. Your speech is even affected. Simple outside noise and touch effect you differently, sometimes even makes one angry or irritable. Many become overly focused on religion or the occult. You become suspicious of everyone- accuse them of outlandish things!
Psychosis is not pretty, in any sense of the word. And sadly, it is uglier and harder on our loved ones than it is on us- we are insane and protected from it, they are not!
I had horrific guilt, was often suicidal- for a long time (therapy helps of course but it never goes away totally and that's OK, it's good to remember where ya came from.. it reminds you of why you don't ever want to go back!) because of the hurt that I caused my loved ones while manic and/or psychotic and IMO if people cannot see any of the other signs, that in itself (lack of guilt, of saddness for what she has done) shows Casey does not have either disease!
I am glad you feel better now :blowkiss:
There is no basis for a diminished capacity or mental defect defense
and I seriously doubt the prisoner would ever allow such a defense
to be presented. KC is innocent in her mind .
As much as KC wants to be special and unique there are many in prison
and walking around just like her . She isnt extraordinary but she certainly took things to the extreme. Cindy certainly contributed in the
same respect all parents affect the adult their children become but
she is not to blame . KC made alot of poor choices and she alone
is responsible for them.
Malignant narcissists come from normal loving homes and severely dysfunctional ones . KC chose her narcissism in many ways while Lee
may have other issues he doesnt appear to be narcissistic .
There are replicas of the Anthonys in every neighborhood - you may
know them and not even realize it . The public presentation is a mask
and the real dymanics lay hidden and behind closed doors.
Do you think it's possible that you read my questions before and you were thinking about this?
I asked this question BEFORE on the Psych. 2 thread, Post #190:
10-25-2008, 09:19 PM
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I put forth this question on some other threads here and sorry if it has already been addressed. I can really see the defense trying to get her ruled insane by undiagnosed post-partum psychosis; to favorably compound the issue, they could cite the miscarriage she told her friend about at the party.
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I also asked if the defense could use PPD. I never said she was psychotic. Only wondered if the defense could use it.
How many people live with someone who is a narcissist I wonder and they do not even realize it? Do you think the number is startling? It is something I would like to research!
Happy Holidays!
Cindy certainly contributed in the
same respect all parents affect the adult their children become but
she is not to blame .
Just had to write my thoughts for the Anthony's on this sad Holiday. Regardless of what anyone might think of them, they were loving grandparents. I see them surrounded by everything that was Caylee, her room, toys, outside playhouse, the pool, child-sized picnic table & hundreds of her playthings. She was their world, & I can't imagine what it must be like to wake every morning in the presence of all of what WAS her!, & knowing it will be nevermore. It is tragic & more than a nightmare!
So, on this Christmas Eve, I feel we should pray for them in any way you can. Right or wrong, with all their human frailities, they are suffering more than I would ever want to imagine.
Sorry I had to chuckle at the sentence above. Trust me, if you've ever known a true narcissist....you would realize it. I know. I was born and raised by one.
But that is not to say that a negative parent may have affected their own child into doing exactly the opposite. Not necessarily affect them towards the negative side. Example: my ex sis and brother in laws were huge pot heads and drunks. Horrible living environment. filthy home. I used to rescue my nephews as often as I could just to be sure they were safe. They all moved out of state and we couldn't "come to the rescue any longer"...however, both boys grew up, went to college..one is an engineer and is married with a few children and the other is married/no children and a teacher. Hence...the way a parent "parents" can have either effect on their children. (When you think of the movie "mommie dearest", think of me. That was my upbringing to the T. I learned plenty from my own mom....as to what NOT to ever do to children.)
Possible, but not always. Sometimes the seizures are very infrequent. We don't know for sure if she has had more and didn't tell anyone, or didn't know herself if she had more. As for physical symptoms...we also don't know if she suffered from headaches more frequently, etc. I'm not saying that she has a brain tumor, I am however saying it should be ruled out.