Ed Kemper who was the co-ed killer and decapitated all of them did not have an insanity defense. He knew the difference between right and wrong, as does ICA. Insanity is a legal term and ICA will never fit it. She is a sociopath and this is the way many of them act. She manipulates and mimics. She doesn't have one original thought. She lives in the moment. She will split people and use their own words against them.
She has plenty of Personality Disorders...all Cluster B, which are Axis IIs and do not qualify as a diagnosis of mental disorder. Axis I is needed to qualify for a mental disorder but even that doesn't qualify for insanity most of the time...unless there is psychosis (which she doesn't have).
:tyou: for this post Whisperer
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Your whole post was great, the part in bold in particular. You have offered your insights in previous posts, I find them to be extremely helpful in trying to understand a person like Casey-more than that, I look forward to the next time you share.
Any of the following I did on this case, (almost every single day for two years) did not prepare me for the Casey that is now revealed. I am overwhelmed at the realization she truly embodies all the characteristics I have read about regarding sociopaths. I agreed with that assessment as I was following but had not experienced it for myself. When Casey made the switch to an accidental drowning covered up by George-all that I had gleaned came rushing into focus with disturbing realizations as I am now able to apply that "data" to what I have personally witnessed. Those revelations leave me with this thought process: I think Casey Anthony is a good example of why it is important to cultivate your soul. Maybe she proves the existence of such a thing as a soul by not having one. Or having one that is not effective in keeping the ego in check. Less soul equals more ego, if you will.
And Caylee would be an example of a beautiful soul, also showing us souls exist. For people that do not believe in any such things, I would never argue any of this with anyone in any manner, I offer this in the spirit of being philosophical- as is my nature. My understanding of any thing metaphysical comes from an interest in any and all information. When all conventional information fails, I am not beyond looking for a unconventional explanation.
If Casey is not insane(to which I agree)in the sense her actions/behavior is effected by a disease of the mind, then what are we saying is wrong with her? Mind and body are intact, intellect is intact. What is left?
We say evil because we have no other word for what she is? What is wrong with her? In court we are saying someone like Casey is guilty or not guilty, not why she may have done what she did-although it has already been acknowledged a jury usually wants to know why. Even if we knew the "why" was because Casey wanted to get rid of Caylee/did not like Caylee, etc. we still feel this is not a sufficient explanation. It does not satisfy. Still speaking of the court, we have found no evidence to say she is insane or mentally ill as we define mental illness. So, again we are at a loss as to say to express what it is we do not know or understand about Casey.
Using biblical allegory, Cain and Able were both trying to please. Able gave the best of what he had right off the bat while Cain gave the second best of what he had. Able received praise and attention for what he had offered while Cain was told he could do better. Instead of Cain doing better next time, even mimicking Able by giving the best that he had-Cain opted to murder Able. Then he hid, and denied it when confronted with the evidence.
Sociopath.
If we deem Casey to be the way she is because of pure biology, or environment...even DNA, then it seems we are in the realm of it is not her fault. If I look at this case from a perspective of it being something that happened in history, I can be less personal and wonder what humanity will do to classify people who fall under this category. I do not think the court recognizes evil as a reality, well we know it does not so the court says guilty or not guilty, but as I said for some people that does not answer what it is we need to/want to know/understand about why there are these people. Maybe when we can fully understand DNA and its effects on our behavior/personality/etc. we will have more answers. In fact, I am sure we will. IMHO.
With respect and a hearty hello to those folk who don't care one whit what is "wrong" with Casey. They just want to see justice done. I admitted my philosophical nature but it is true I am thinking all that others are saying, and I feel that way about it too. It was yesterday and today that I started "not caring if Casey got the death penalty" to thinking/saying out loud to my husband, "I hope she gets the death penalty." I don't know who to apologize to when I say that was not easy for me to write that, it is not easy for me to feel that way. There is something very reactive and strong that Casey Anthony's lies and ways brings out in me that says, "get rid of her." I am not comfortable with feeling that way, but I do.
All that said, I have no issue accepting whatever the jury decides. I might have emotions and opinions but I would not take issue. I am ready to see what they decide. I respect them as those chosen to judge Casey Anthony according to our laws.
PS: the defense would not use a mental defense because Casey is not mental. She is sane as per the definition of what is sanity and insanity at this time.
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