Dr Phil w/ George and Cindy Anthony (Show airs 9.13.2011)

[Ricki]

Well, I watched the interview. What did I learn? Not much. Cindy is in denial. Nothing new there. Cindy thinks she is a Dr now and can diagnose brain disorders. She is a quack. GA, well I kind of knew that he knows his daughter did the dirty deed, but still can not come out and straight out say it. Ms Anthony did not want GA back in the house leading me to believe neck breaking and household weapons were met for him. George looks at his wife like she is crazy. Dr Phil could of asked much more detailed questions to pin A's down, especially about CA anger (fight). At least the Dr cut Cindy off at the path a few times. Oh, that had to be eating at her.
By the way, while searching Dr Phils site, I noticed he has Uncensored Dr. Phil area where he shows parts of shows that were cut and not aired. I am hoping that in the near future there might be some cut parts of this interview shown.
Wondered what will be revealed today that we don't already know.

 

[lorann]

They let Caylee down. No amount of new laws for grandparents can change that. They failed Caylee.

Exactly!!! I did not watch the program, just read Sumbunny's transcript and everyone's comments. I felt their testimony and comments were to keep their daughter off of death row before the verdict. I think besides needing a foundation to launder money, they may actually want grandparent's to have rights. Had they been assured they could have gained custody of Caylee, they may have done just that. They saw all the signs and had they acted in the baby's best interest, she would still be alive today. Their guilty feelings have fueled everything they have done- I say they when I think mostly Cindy. Will they use the funds from Phil to actually help other grandparents? That will take changing the laws and child protection policies. Maybe the rest of the interview will address their plans...

 

[natsound]

Well, I watched the interview. What did I learn? Not much. Cindy is in denial. Nothing new there. Cindy thinks she is a Dr now and can diagnose brain disorders. She is a quack. GA, well I kind of knew that he knows his daughter did the dirty deed, but still can not out and straight out say it. Ms Anthony did not want GA back in the house leading me to believe neck breaking and household weapons were met for him. George looks at his wife like she is crazy. Dr Phil could of asked much more detailed questions to pin A's down, especially about CA anger (fight). At least the Dr cut Cindy off at the path a few times. Oh, that had to be eating at her.
By the way, while searching Dr Phils site, I noticed he has Uncensored Dr. Phil area where he shows parts of shows that were cut and not aired. I am hoping that in the near future there might be some uncut parts of this interview shown.
Wondered what will be revealed today that we don't already know.

ITA about CA in denial. I wonder if Dr. Phil helped them a little bit during the interview... opened a door for them. GA and CA don't agree, but at one point Dr. Phil held CA's feet to the fire and said "George, what do you think about that?"

I wonder if GA and CA avoid talking about KC when they're together, and that's part of what keeps them together. IMO they're bonded by their experience, but they worry that talking about their disagreements over their daughter and what happened to their granddaughter will tear them apart.

 

[Velouria]

Just got home..NG is covering this so it's my only chance to see this unless someone uploads it to youtube..anyhoo she just said "after whooping it up in the sand and Sun of Mexico for the past few weeks..(meaning FCA)" Whaty what what? (credit I forget who) Is she getting this from that Natl Enquirer article?

I don't know, but I just had a thought...

Now that Baez has been hired to represent Gary Giordano, perhaps he'll get ol' Gary off the hook, too.

Then he can introduce Mr. Giordano to FCA and the former can take the latter to Aruba on a snorkeling trip. :whistle: :innocent:

 

[Etilema]

[snip]
Again CA using the "friend" word loosely when claiming that the felons mood was down the night of the hot body contest and that the felon reluctantly filled in for a girl that didn't show up. I'm not sure what friends CA was refering to because it seems most reports from the felons friends said they saw no change in the felons behavior except for some nightmares/sweating from TL.

I actually do remember this scenario being discussed on one of the recorded interviews, and I think it was TL who said it. Remember that Casey used to go with TL to help promote his events, and what I recall is that was his explanation for her participation--that it wasn't originally intended for her to be in the contest, but she was helping out. And TL has never gone out of his way to defend Casey. On the contrary, he seemed to want to really distance himself immediately upon realization of the magnitude of the situation. Still, it is just my recollection that it was TL. Could have been someone else. But I definitely remember that it was discussed in a police interview with *someone*.

 

[Little Black Dress]

I did not watch the "interview." Thank you to everyone here for their comments and above all, the transcribing of the interview. Priceless.

Nothing new was revealed in this interview. More lies, changing of their "story", additions, subtractions, blah, blah. I have always thought George was more forthcoming about Caylee's death, and to me, wanted justice for Caylee's death. It's too late now, so everything they spew now is irrelevant, should have happened a long time ago.

One thing that stuck in my head from Dr. P, the first time he referred to CAYLEE, he said something like "that child." What is wrong with all of them? She had a name, her name was Caylee, she was murdered, tossed in the woods, and nobody calls her by her name! CMA, that little girl, that child etc..WTF?? Her name is Caylee Marie Anthony!

The most frightening revelation is CA thinks FCA was a great Mom! Umm, your granddaughter is DEAD, how in the world is that even possible? Not only that, she wishes FCA to get married and have another child? :sick::sick::sick: Truly sickening. Why would you wish ANY of you on another child?

I'm still perplexed over the entire foundation thing. How in the world can the Dr. Phil justify giving the A's money towards a foundation for missing kids or grandparent's rights? First of all, Caylee was never missing!! Second, what kind of Grandparent's rights do the A's think they can help someone else with?? They are still in denial, never believed Caylee was killed, never thought FCA had anything to do with it. NOW, they are trying to collect $$ of of their Grandparent's rights? Right's to do what? They never held their daughter responsible for their granddaughter's death (disappearance), never tried to get Caylee away from FCA (from their own mouths), yet they now want to draw a salary (or whatever the phase du jour is) off their dead grandchild's memory. :maddening:

O/T. In regards to Baez representing Giordano, Baez seems to gravitate to cases where the victims have allegedly drowned. He called FCA all kinds of names at trial, wonder what he will call Robin? Grrr :banghead:

:drink::drink::drink::drink::drink:

Bolding mine. I agree, on the surface, her comment seems about as bizarre and bizarre gets. But when I remember Mrs. Anthony saying in trial that upon Caylee's birth, Ms. Anthony reminded her (Mrs. Anthony) of HERSELF as a young mother, it makes perfect sense that she'd maintain this "great mom" farce. She will forever do and say anything and everything that she has to do, in order to keep any suggestion of herself as a 'bad mom' (or that she's in any way responsible for Casey's actions) from being a reflection of herself. With Mrs. Anthony, it's all about image...HERS, and by extension, her family's. JMO.

 

[crimesnooper]

Is there a point when we stop giving credence to Cindy's bizarre take on things as a grieving mother and grandmother? I think her "denial" has to do with the fact that she and her big ego can't accept that she could spawn a psycopath. I think that is slightly different that not being able to accept that your daughter killed her child.Dr. Phil's interview was shallow IMO, beuase he accpeted their version that this was a normal home and chilldhood.Casey was showing signs of deceitful behavior way before her "post partnum schizoid attack(lol). Dr. P never addresses the enourmous anger in this family and if Casey was such a good mom, why all that anger toward her from Cindy. I would love a real family therapist, not a Dr. P, to anaylize the dynamics in the family.
IMO, Cindy is as manipulative as they come.

 

[Little Black Dress]

I don't get the logic in this, If CA thinks that Casey is such a great mother why are they saying the new foundation is for grandparents rights these rights for grandparents imply they need more legal authority to step in to protect the child. Whatever, my common sense feels like it is bruttaly attack everytime CA speaks. So many contradictions from story to story i just can't rap my head around all of it. Must be the siezures no wait maybe it's the brain tumor or maybe my hormones.

Bolding mine. Yes, quite the irony, isn't it?

BTW, welcome!

 

[Etilema]

i think the internet gambling and the nigerian scam are both lies. no proof of course but i have a feeling it was *advertiser censored*, paid webcam viewing, or escorts. i would almost bet on it. they both are liars i just think george is less looney and thinks more realistic.

Well that is an interesting and not unbelievable idea (about it being *advertiser censored* or whatever).

But it still leaves me with the question of why he told one story to Cindy and another to the FBI. He even told the FBI he had the documentation about the whole debacle at home somewhere (just like Casey had the SIM card in her office??).

Also, his story (for either the gambling or the scam) was that he felt like such a loser not being able to contribute to the family income that he was hoping to score big. That made psychological sense to me, to explain why he would get involved in something like that. If he was actually just dissipating it, it would be much harder for him to justify to himself. Which would speak volumes about his own mental processes.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I did not watch the Anthony's interview with Phil McGraw and will not watch today's continuing episode of "As the LIES Turn" ...

But ... I did read the threads here and a BIG THANKS to those who watched and reported ! "Excellent" Job !!

MOO ... After spending a few hours reading here about the show and how the Anthony's CONTINUE to spin more "stories" and "lies" about their daughter ...

I have come to the conclusion that the Anthony's interview with Phil was a

WASTE, HUGE WASTE !​

:cow::cow::cow:

 

[Little Black Dress]

Is there a point when we stop giving credence to Cindy's bizarre take on things as a grieving mother and grandmother? I think her "denial" has to do with the fact that she and her big ego can't accept that she could spawn a psycopath. I think that is slightly different that not being able to accept that your daughter killed her child.Dr. Phil's interview was shallow IMO, beuase he accpeted their version that this was a normal home and chilldhood.Casey was showing signs of deceitful behavior way before her "post partnum schizoid attack(lol). Dr. P never addresses the enourmous anger in this family and if Casey was such a good mom, why all that anger toward her from Cindy. I would love a real family therapist, not a Dr. P, to anaylize the dynamics in the family.
IMO, Cindy is as manipulative as they come.

Bolding mine. Completely agree.

 

[pip]

Casey is just a clone of Cindy. Cindy will paint Casey as the victim until her dying breath to protect herself from being exposed for the real person she is. They are one and the same personality. Problem is, cats out of the bag. She doesn't realize how transparent and obvious it all is. Her last line of defense is to lunge like a doberman, spin stories and deny. There is so much to the real story not being told. They both know exactly why and who the perp is.
Red flags were there from day 1 for Cindy. She can deny that, like 31 days was no biggie, but I believe she was playing detective to find her from day 1 when she didn't come home with Caylee. Cindy has to be in control.

 

[LAMARQ]

Will that woman ever wake up, accept the facts, and see what her daughter actually is???? Her denial is some of the strongest I've ever seen!! It's like she's not even living in reality but a reality created in her head!

I hope I am NEVER in the position of GA and CA to find out how I would act and react. I'm not of big fan of theirs, but I'm sure I would also try to rationalize and deny that my own flesh and blood could do this to their child.

I wouldn't go on national TV with it all. It will probably take years for her to come to terms with this... if ever. GA seems to be coming around, but they both admit to denial and not wanting to believe.

 

[JBounds]

Brain tumors can and do cause extreme personality and behavior changes, depending on their locations. They can cause a person to become violent, to suffer hallucinations, to become paranoid, etc. But I don't think invisible tumors have those type of effects on people.

You're right. Not only does she imaginary friends and zanny's and so on. Now there is some imaginary brain tumor to go along with Cindy's imaginary reality.

 

[Little Black Dress]

I didn't watch the interview, but I thought I read here somewhere that Mrs. Anthony has been in therapy "for three years". I recall she had some therapy in earlier years (to learn how to deal with her daughter?), but I got the impression from what I read here that she has continually been in therapy for all of the last three years. Is that correct? Did she say that in the interview?

 

[Just K]

We laugh and joke around about those gas cans but did you ever think the Defense would just shut up about them at the trial? I was banging my head on my desk...If you count all the hearings and the number of times GA in trial was asked about those gas cans - it would take up a couple of full days about them.

Enough with the gas cans everybody! (not the peeps here of course).

The thought has occurred to me...more than a few times...and especially after the felon exploded in the courtroom...that after Caylee was dead it was the felon's intention to set her father up completely. Her gentle talk to her father, on the jail tapes, was contrived and just a way to make her appear as if she loved her father. What it seems is that GA has been the felon's target from the beginning.

Just remember when he was on the stand, he was speaking of suicide attempt and she openly mocked him and then mouthed, "I wish you had" or was it "you should have." She hates GA.

She used his duct tape
Used his gas cans
and put the same duct tape on his gas can

She may have been angry with her mother but she hates George.

 

[pip]

I didn't watch the interview, but I thought I read here somewhere that Mrs. Anthony has been in therapy "for three years". I recall she had some therapy in earlier years (to learn how to deal with her daughter?), but I got the impression from what I read here that she has continually been in therapy for all of the last three years. Is that correct? Did she say that in the interview?

Then she has wasted her and the therapists time. She is not being truthful. She has obviously spent 3 years with a therapist trying to deal with the symptoms rather than deal with the real problems.

 

[Etilema]

Being that the monies came out of her account while he was online, I'm sure that her statements would show where the monies went. Whether it was sent to a online gambling house or to Nigeria. I think that it was both. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. First he lost the money gambling online and then tried to recoup some money through the Nigerian deal to cover for his loss on the gambling and it ended up being a scam. I may be wrong but thought that's how I heard it.
(I think that online gambling is legal so that wouldn't matter to the LE.)

His claim was that it was only the scam and that he lied to Cindy about it (saying it was gambling). Good point about it being transferred directly from her account. Maybe the notation is ambiguous enough that GA could spin it how he wanted to. Maybe he did a straight withdrawal of funds and send it by wire somewhere (or gave it to prostitutes or lawyers or henchmen or whatever it actually was).

 

[dog.gone.cute]

MOO MOO MOO ...

Many of the TH's, attorneys, doctors ... "weighed in" yesterday on the Anthony's interview with Phil McGraw ... including Mr. Drew Kesse, father of Jennifer Kesse who has been MISSING for over 5 years !

I applaud Mr. Kesse for his "truthful" and "honest" responses ! I hope that Jennifer is found soon !


Below is Mr. Keese's comments from his appearance on the NG Show (bold is by me).

snipped from : http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1109/13/ng.01.html


GRACE: To Drew Kesse, father of missing Jennifer Kesse that we have covered many times here. And he is angry about the Anthonys` interview on ``Dr. Phil.`` Drew, thank you for being with us. Why are you angry?

DREW KESSE, FATHER OF MISSING JENNIFER KESSE: I guess it`s hard to be in a position such as myself, having a daughter missing through abduction for over five-and-a-half years, and to be in the same city as this was happening for the last three-plus years, and really, to hear and honestly not be a part of it, but to really know so much about it.

You know, one thing I have to say, Nancy, is George said he got a little belligerent with his daughter. I will tell you that if that was my daughter or my son, only one person would have come out of the room, or two people would have come out of the room and one would have gone directly to jail. It`s the hardest thing you have to do, but -- you hold off because you don`t want to get your daughter mad? Come on! We`re talking about murder here.

And if you really looked at that entire interview -- you talk about a powder puff interview. It was absolutely incredible. We learned -- outside of bringing in, I think, the fifth response or excuse about Caylee, I think now we`re -- we`re not fools. I`m not a fool. And it was just -- there`s even lies told within it.

When you look at body language, you know that Cindy is lying. When she looks down and won`t look at Dr. Phil and plays with her fingers answering questions -- you know, that`s what they`re taught in the FBI. That`s a lie.

GRACE: But Drew...

KESSE: It`s just horrible, but you have to accept it. Yes?

GRACE: Drew -- but what about that is making you angry? For all I know, they`re still in mourning and having a hard time believing that their daughter did this.

KESSE: Yes. The anger that I truly have really has nothing to do with what they say, or what have you. The anger I have is the money trail that Dr. Phil is putting into their foundation that I feel is fraudulent.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MCGRAW: Did it ever occur to you that, He`s hidden substantial things from me before? Could he have done it again?
CINDY ANTHONY: No, not when it came to his family as far as Casey and Caylee. George would never have put us through those six months of not knowing where Caylee was if he knew where Caylee was, because I watched his heart break every single day. And I watched him, as frantic as he was.
(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: You`re seeing video of Dr. Phil`s interview with grandparents George and Cindy Anthony from CBS.

As we were going to break -- everybody, our whole panel is taking your calls. Drew Kesse is with us. He is the father of missing Jennifer Kesse. We`re showing you footage of her throughout this whole thing. I`m also going to give you the information for her tip line in case you have information on her disappearance. We`ve covered her story here many times.

And Drew is angry about the Anthonys` interview on ``Dr. Phil.`` Drew, what were you saying just before we went to break?

KESSE: Sure. The real problem that I have in -- I don`t know if I`d call it anger. It`s the money flow that is happening that, really, Dr. Phil is pimping his show. He is interviewing garbage. It`s another excuse, as we all know, after everything is over.

And it`s really phenomenal what Cindy just said coming out of that break -- Oh, he would never put us through this. He wouldn`t? He would put you through having two female accompaniments. He would put you through attempted suicide. He would put you through, quote, unquote "incest." But he would never put you through this? Come on, Cindy! I mean, you know, let`s -- sometimes you have to stand up...

GRACE: Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Are you saying -- are you responding to Cindy Anthony saying that George Anthony would never have stood by knowing that Caylee was dead, knowing where her body was disposed of, and allow Cindy to suffer so much?

KESSE: No. I would say...

GRACE: Because I believe that. I totally believe that.

KESSE: No, I...

GRACE: I absolutely do not believe that George Anthony would have stood by and let Cindy suffer in that way. And also, as to any alleged incest, that is a big crock. That did not happen.

KESSE: Sure.

GRACE: And a judge ruled that that did not happen. There was no evidence that that ever happened.

KESSE: And it also came out that Caylee Anthony was never missing, she was murdered.

GRACE: You`re right.

KESSE: Right out of the lawyer`s mouth.

GRACE: You`re absolutely right, Drew Kesse. Ellie Jostad, weigh in.

JOSTAD: Well, Nancy, George and Cindy Anthony insist that they are not going to draw salaries or get any income from their foundation, and that any money that they get from this ``Dr. Phil`` show is just going to go...

 

[pip]

Interesting how the escort sites visited on the Anthony's computer has never been discussed over the past 3 years. (other than here, of course)