Stephen Powell Arrested in Washington State #2

[x_files]

The fans were running in the living room and there was some kind of reddish stain, apparently. I have never heard Josh's explanation, except that he told his sister it must be a juice or koolaid stain. I'm sure LE asked him about it, though. He probably told them Susan must have done it while he was out camping in the middle of the night.

There has to be DNA evidence if blood was spilled. There's no way he could have managed to clean it spotless.
Maybe, LE knows it's her blood and hasn't revealed it yet publicly.

 

[Steely Dan]

They both went mysteriously quite after the last search of the WA home. I really don't think it's so much that they are listening to their lawyer, they're all just boxed into a corner (and JP knows it), gritting their teeth and hunkering down, waiting for the next shoe to fall. Finally, and too late, they've learned to keep their mouth shut! That father was just crazy for all the stuff he said.

We probably won't hear much from JP for quite a while, if at all.

IMO

If he was smart he'd call a lawyer workout a deal for taking them to Susan's body and hope he's out in 25-30 years while his kids are still alive.

 

[runsdeep]

The fans were running in the living room and there was some kind of reddish stain, apparently. I have never heard Josh's explanation, except that he told his sister it must be a juice or koolaid stain. I'm sure LE asked him about it, though. He probably told them Susan must have done it while he was out camping in the middle of the night.

on blogtalk the woman guest mentioned that it was a brownish spot

 

[DLT88]

on blogtalk the woman guest mentioned that it was a brownish spot

Does sound like blood then.

 

[OneLove]

Hypnosis recovers amazing details of forgotten memories. Everything you have ever heard / experienced is still in "storage" in the subconscious. It just needs to be accessed.

I know this. I am a certified hypnotherapist, among other things. I have seen mind boggling things.

Some of the most memorable things I have seen are the memories recalled that solve crimes and the insurance company's use of hypnosis to retrieve detail of car accidents. One person who had no memory of the minutes after his car wreck was able to retrieve the license plate number of the person who stopped in front of him, then drove away. That person was then found and called as a witness in a trial. In another case, a woman retrieved the memory of a badge number of a "policeman" who had assaulted her. Again, that information proved vital in a trial. I could go on and on and on.

Counselors sometimes use hypnosis as a diagnosis and treatment option with people who have experienced trauma. Hmmm.....

Those diapers just might come in handy for Joshy.

 

[ransackmobilize]

I'm very leery of counselors talking to children ever since the McMartin School debacle.

This is what I was thinking of in one of my other posts; the McMartin School debacle (debacle it was). I'm sure the pros are already well aware of this and will hopefully prevent a similar fiasco from happening in this situation.

 

[Steely Dan]

I'm very leery of counselors talking to children ever since the McMartin School debacle.

This is what I was thinking of in one of my other posts; the McMartin School debacle (debacle it was). I'm sure the pros are already well aware of this and will hopefully prevent a similar fiasco from happening in this situation.

I'm not so sure. The same mistakes are made over and over. The only way it would work, IMO, is if the kids give some information that was unknown and could be proven true.

 

[OneLove]

I'm not so sure. The same mistakes are made over and over. The only way it would work, IMO, is if the kids give some information that was unknown and could be proven true.

It's very unlikely anything the children say would be used in direct testimony. You are right on about their information being used in investigating and in finding OTHER ways to bring the information in.

 

[annalia]

The fans were running in the living room and there was some kind of reddish stain, apparently. I have never heard Josh's explanation, except that he told his sister it must be a juice or koolaid stain. I'm sure LE asked him about it, though. He probably told them Susan must have done it while he was out camping in the middle of the night.

Has the stain ever been tested?

 

[hollyblue]

on blogtalk the woman guest mentioned that it was a brownish spot

Wish we knew what they all had to drink that evening. Hot chocolate? JoVonna did say that Josh took the time to clean up a spill while she was there, but didn't say if it was in the living room where the fan was directed or who had the spill. I think we all took for granted it was the children, but it could have been Susan. imo

 

[Salem]

Boy guys - you are waaaaaaaaaay off topic here. Can you please move the conversation to the appropriate thread?

I don't want to interrupt the convo, but it doesn't belong here.....

Thanks,

Salem

ETA: I moved some posts - so if yours is lost, please check the custody thread.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

I just wanted to quickly recommend the following episode of the new series "Killer Instinct" (real life cases taken on by FBI profiler Mark Safarik) - it is free to watch and I guarantee you will be glad you watched if you follow the Powell case. This is the case of Steven Long, who reported his wife missing as well. The parallels to this case are striking, and I felt like my perspective on the Powell case enhanced from watching this. One way my perspective changed is I see a lot of movements by LE that appear much more timed, much more strategic and much more brilliant than before. I am currently curious if the FBI came in on this case in mid 2011, or at least someone fresh did IMO, as that is when the chess moves really start up. MOO.

This is a brilliant new series by the way. This is the real deal, a real FBI profiler, real cases, real evidence, and helpful reenactments. The information provided is straight out of the FBI profiling books I have read, so these episodes are educational to say the least. I swear this is the ultimate series for websleuthers! Viewer discretion advised.

http://video.cloo.com/killer_instinct#////killer_instinct/episode-3-body-of-evidence/v1359354

 

[vlpate]

I just wanted to quickly recommend the following episode of the new series "Killer Instinct" (real life cases taken on by FBI profiler Mark Safarik) - it is free to watch and I guarantee you will be glad you watched if you follow the Powell case. This is the case of Steven Long, who reported his wife missing as well. The parallels to this case are striking, and I felt like my perspective on the Powell case enhanced from watching this. One way my perspective changed is I see a lot of movements by LE that appear much more timed, much more strategic and much more brilliant than before. I am currently curious if the FBI came in on this case in mid 2011, or at least someone fresh did IMO, as that is when the chess moves really start up. MOO.

This is a brilliant new series by the way. This is the real deal, a real FBI profiler, real cases, real evidence, and helpful reenactments. The information provided is straight out of the FBI profiling books I have read, so these episodes are educational to say the least. I swear this is the ultimate series for websleuthers! Viewer discretion advised.

http://video.cloo.com/killer_instinct#////killer_instinct/episode-3-body-of-evidence/v1359354

Love it, thanks!

 

[hollyblue]

I just wanted to quickly recommend the following episode of the new series "Killer Instinct" (real life cases taken on by FBI profiler Mark Safarik) - it is free to watch and I guarantee you will be glad you watched if you follow the Powell case. This is the case of Steven Long, who reported his wife missing as well. The parallels to this case are striking, and I felt like my perspective on the Powell case enhanced from watching this. One way my perspective changed is I see a lot of movements by LE that appear much more timed, much more strategic and much more brilliant than before. I am currently curious if the FBI came in on this case in mid 2011, or at least someone fresh did IMO, as that is when the chess moves really start up. MOO.

This is a brilliant new series by the way. This is the real deal, a real FBI profiler, real cases, real evidence, and helpful reenactments. The information provided is straight out of the FBI profiling books I have read, so these episodes are educational to say the least. I swear this is the ultimate series for websleuthers! Viewer discretion advised.

http://video.cloo.com/killer_instinct#////killer_instinct/episode-3-body-of-evidence/v1359354

The only difference is JP didn't continue to talk to LE, he stopped. Nor did he run to Canada, sell his car and leave his kids behind. Just taking a guess, but I don't think he will talk unless 1. he is arrested for same charges his father is now locked up for...and 2. he had nothing to do with her demise, then tells all on SP. Otherwise, I don't think he will talk. It's a tough call at this time because we don't know if there is any evidence pointing to him in the *advertiser censored*, etc He knows if he doesn't talk the Coxes will more likely (forever, imo) keep custody of the boys and he will get visitation only. There's all kinds of human behavior(s) taking place here. Between his father and him, him and the boys, whatever was left between him and Susan (yes, there naturally would be) and then the Coxes. If they do get to talk to him their advantage is SP is no longer around and Josh SHOULD realize some of the decisions his father made turned out not to be so wise and be ? his direction to him in other matters; and JP's own attachment/control of the boys. All his previous shields are down...unless the other members or siblings pick up where SP left off. ?? Slim chance, imo.

JMO

ETA: Thanks for the link and video. It was very interesting and reminds me of another case here.

 

[Steely Dan]

I just wanted to quickly recommend the following episode of the new series "Killer Instinct" (real life cases taken on by FBI profiler Mark Safarik) - it is free to watch and I guarantee you will be glad you watched if you follow the Powell case. This is the case of Steven Long, who reported his wife missing as well. The parallels to this case are striking, and I felt like my perspective on the Powell case enhanced from watching this. One way my perspective changed is I see a lot of movements by LE that appear much more timed, much more strategic and much more brilliant than before. I am currently curious if the FBI came in on this case in mid 2011, or at least someone fresh did IMO, as that is when the chess moves really start up. MOO.

This is a brilliant new series by the way. This is the real deal, a real FBI profiler, real cases, real evidence, and helpful reenactments. The information provided is straight out of the FBI profiling books I have read, so these episodes are educational to say the least. I swear this is the ultimate series for websleuthers! Viewer discretion advised.

http://video.cloo.com/killer_instinct#////killer_instinct/episode-3-body-of-evidence/v1359354

That's cool.

 

[dovebar]

For further interest, watch episode 2. A fascinating case where a guy very like Josh, married to his first and only girlfriend, kills her at his mother's urging in order to keep the kids to themselves. The parent and son try to ruin the woman's reputation in death. Truly psychologically parallel to the Powell case - only the parental gender seems different.

 

[cocomod]

Sorry folks, I just had to share this video of SP!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tm03RvfsK8A&feature=channel_video_title"]09/25/2011: New MUG SHOTS Released of Steve Powell - Susan Powell's Father-In-Law - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Steely Dan]

For further interest, watch episode 2. A fascinating case where a guy very like Josh, married to his first and only girlfriend, kills her at his mother's urging in order to keep the kids to themselves. The parent and son try to ruin the woman's reputation in death. Truly psychologically parallel to the Powell case - only the parental gender seems different.

I watched that too and thought of the same thing.

Sorry folks, I just had to share this video of SP!

09/25/2011: New MUG SHOTS Released of Steve Powell - Susan Powell's Father-In-Law - YouTube

:laughcry:

 

[UtahMom]

Steve Powell voyeurism hearing set for today

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52702022-78/powell-court-steve-case.html.csp?page=1

 

[hollyblue]

Steve Powell voyeurism hearing set for today

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52702022-78/powell-court-steve-case.html.csp?page=1

From your link:

"*advertiser censored* has been an issue in this family for three decades. When my parents divorced, *advertiser censored* was an issue during the proceeding," Graves wrote. "Joshua knew about the *advertiser censored* then and his statements presently that he knows nothing of our father’s pornographic inclinations and material is untruthful."