NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #11

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I think Shannan has finally been discovered because I'm gonna feel some kind of way if she isn't. How are they finding everybody but Shannan?
 
Does the timing of this seem strange to anyone else? From what I understand this was not a scheduled search.
 
They searched within Oak Beach Association today!

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Items found during a police search Tuesday in Oak Beach could be connected to Shannan Gilbert, a New Jersey woman last seen in the area in May 2010, a source close to the investigation said.

The items were found in a marshy area that had been under water and inaccessible when it was previously searched, the source said.

"At this juncture we have not found any human remains," said Insp. Stuart Cameron, commanding officer of Suffolk police special patrol bureau. "I'm not at liberty to discuss whether any significant items were found."

Cameron said, "We may find, potentially find, something [later today]," and the search will continue until "we lose light" Tuesday, and again on Wednesday.

Suffolk County police returned unexpectedly to the area on Tuesday to search in a gated community where Gilbert, 24, was last seen while working as a prostitute -- a disappearance that later mushroomed into the search for a suspected serial killer.

A marked police unit from the Marine Bureau of the Suffolk County Police Department was blocking the entrance to the Oak Beach Association at 2:15 p.m., and reporters were not allowed to enter. Police had searched 90 "points of interest" along Ocean Parkway on Monday but said they found no evidence.

-Source: Items may be tied to Shannan Gilbert
 
If her remains or clothing was found in Oak Beach that makes me think even more than I did before that she's not related to the others.
 
LE doesn't want to confirm remains are human too hastily. Somebody must have finally witnessed/surveilled someone returning to the specific site of the remains, the specific location only the killer would know. They already searched the area somewhat in the past, so what they found must have not been visible/buried in the mud. They needed him to return to the exact location, and I think they got just that.... very recently.
 
is it the kind of marsh a person could stumble into in the dark? could she have fallen and drowned? just curious if you would have to go far off the road or could you go a short way and suddenly be knee deep in water? or would you know right away it was not passable?

this is so crazy. I hope its not some other poor girl or guy or child...this Oak Beach is like a body farm.
 
Cops won't admit that they found remains but NBC source insists they are witholding the truth;

Remains and clothing were found in the marsh Long Island police searched Tuesday in connection with the investigation into the disappearance of a New Jersey escort who vanished in the area last year, law-enforcement sources tell NBC New York.

Divers found the remains in knee-deep water in the marsh in Oak Beach, sources said. They have not been identified. The Suffolk County Police Department disputes that remains were found. According to Suffolk police, only items that may be tied to the case were recovered.
-Remains, Clothing Found in Marsh Near Where Shannan Gilbert Was Last Seen: Sources
 
Newsday says they "found some items of interest" but nothing about human remains. They may have found animal bones as has happened during several of the prior searches.
 
Sure Truth, I'll try to be brief, but I probably won't be:

- he had an alibi (his wife likely wouldn't cover for him or probably wouldn't be able to keep that kind of a secret)
- he lacked opportunity (his wife was sleeping next to him, family in the house)
- he had an explanation for the calls, and the timeline of Diaz/Pak visit to OB and the Diaz/Pak call to CPH fits the explanation
- your interpretation of court docs that he was somehow criminally or civilly found guilty of gross negligence while medically attending to a minor is incorrect, based on my interpretation
- your interpretation of court docs that he was in some kind of drug rehab is incorrect, based on my interpretation
- my guess is that MG later misrecalled the last name of the "Rehab" caller
- according to police, MG never informed police of the "rehab" call initially, so assertions about CPH by MG need to be viewed in the context of a mother looking for swift justice.
- Mari and those assisting her (i.e., findshannangilbert.com) have never posted her actual phone bill to demonstrate the time/date and originating phone number of the "Rehab" call (which she claims was prior to the first call that CPH reported to 48 Hours). If Mari was able to demonstrate that CPH indeed called her prior to the first reported call by CPH, this would probably change my opinion on CPH.

Do you remember the article where MG went with some blogger to meet with CPH and his wife? They seemed like decent people, and they seemed empathetic. CPH has a family, he's community-minded. Without more actual evidence, at this point I think he just got really unlucky when he ran into Diaz/Pak and made those calls to the family at their request. The MSM storm took over and he got swept up.

And as for why he didn't take a lie detector test, it's because he's smart. He actually listens to his lawyer. If the DA came to him with some decent circumstantial evidence and threatened to charge him, he probably would take a lie detector test to help clear himself as a suspect and avoid being charged. But right now, he doesn't need to from a legal perspective since it can only hurt him. From a publicity perspective, its already about as bad as it can get, so there's no need to take any additional risk that you make things worse for yourself.

These comments involve way too much rationalizing for me. I take great offense to your saying MG did not know the name of the person who called her. It is absurd to think that Pak or Diaz, both convicted felons would want to involve themselves with the family of a missing prostitute since both are in a position to be potential suspects. And I can say as a mother and an ex-wife of a doctor, that no doctor in his right mind would call the teenage sister of a missing prostitute to offer his help unsolicited. It makes me angry to even think about it. If a strange old doctor with dubious credentials called my teenager girl I would complain to the medical board and have his head.
 
LE doesn't want to confirm remains are human too hastily. Somebody must have finally witnessed/surveilled someone returning to the specific site of the remains, the specific location only the killer would know. They already searched the area somewhat in the past, so what they found must have not been visible/buried in the mud. They needed him to return to the exact location, and I think they got just that.... very recently.

In the video in this link, it says that police searched the area because of FBI aerial searches where they obtained high resolution photography. Those high resolution images have just been analyzed and that is why they searched that area. There are several other areas of interest where they will also search. The local said that if she ran into the water, she would have drowned.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...lbert-Oak-Beach-Suffolk-Police-135107923.html
 
Hi, I am new I have read some of all of you're postings. I watched the documentary last night. What stands out to me is.. why were the girls more comfortable than usual let their " guard " down for this particular high paying client? also, the surveillance video mysteriously missing from the time SG was passing through early in the morning. If its not a coincidence what type of person would be able to access that without breaking in ?
 
Sure Truth, I'll try to be brief, but I probably won't be:

- he had an alibi (his wife likely wouldn't cover for him or probably wouldn't be able to keep that kind of a secret)
- he lacked opportunity (his wife was sleeping next to him, family in the house)
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From Ashley's link above:

Police have said Hackett may have been among the last people to see her alive."

Doesn't seem to fit real well with the alibi CPH has put forth :waitasec:
 
Who can verify CPH was sleeping with his wife besides his wife and have we even heard from her to support his alibi?
 
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