FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #14

[gitana1]

Hi Mom hi Dad. Hey I just killed Michelle can you give me a ride back to the Hummer so I can dispose of her body and the car? So he either has a body in his truck or she's at his house in the Hummer?

Could very well be. But more like, "Oh man, Dad, I am in big trouble. I just screwed up very badly. You've got to help me!"

Have you seen his father? The bizarre, childish faces he made to the camera after court? The nasty, angry attitude? If that was me, I would be more saddened and horrified about what happened to my former daughter in law and what is happening to my son than frustrated with a swarm of photographers. And even if I lashed out at them, I wouldn't do so via odd facial expressions. Those expressions are very telling, IMO.

A domestic abuser or violent person isn't usually just created from thin air. Spoiled, entitled brats who are not taught to control their tempers, to think of others, to delay gratification, along with parents who display violent or ugly conduct towards others, a disdain for others' rights, a disdain for women, and a carefully fostered belief that the brat is perfect and can do no wrong, that's usually how such monsters are created.

I'm not sure how many of these sordid cases you may have followed but there have been several in which enabling parents or other family members hide evidence, lie for their kids or worse. casey anthony's parents did this, scott peterson's parents as well, it appears that drew peterson's adult son may have, and josh powell's dad, jerice hunter's mother, etc., etc.

There are families who believe family solidarity is of utmost importance, even when it means covering for a murdering or molesting child. What I have seen of Dale's father indicates that his may just be one of those families.

True but he still needs someone to help him or he drove his truck back to get the hummer all with no one seeing him. Then he had to walk back to get his truck at his condo so he could go back to his parents. I'm really trying hard to put Dale in this.

I don't see why this is so hard, really. First of all, we don't know that no one saw his car driving around, or the hummer driving around. The windows were tinted in that hummer, so it could be hard to determine who is driving. And maybe people saw those vehicles at a time that Dale could have been driving back and forth, but it didn't register as important to them so they didn't store that memory away.

Second, he calls dad, after stuffing Michelle away somewhere, lets dad know what's happened and dad helps him come up with a plan and helps him execute it. Kids are dropped off (or not), Dale is driven back to the house or dad goes back, one of them moves the hummer when the coast seems clear and one of the two picks the other one back up at a certain point. Same goes for disposing of Michelle.

There are so many possibilities and none of them seem close to impossible to me.

Again, there was a reason LE stormed Dale Sr.s house in storm trooper fashion. That indicates they believe he knows something. LE has the phone records, we don't. But I expect there was a flurry of calls between Dale and his dad during the crucial time period.

And I think, in observing father and son, that Dale wouldn't hesitate telling Daddy what he did and seeking help. Dale didn't become who he is without help, IMO.

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

I guess I expected a whole lot to be coming out after they found so much info on her phone. If they indeed could have tracked her whereabouts via gps I would have expected more searches. Perhaps the phone didn't show so much? Or perhaps the phone didn't show any remote locations? Maybe they are doing a little more fine tuned searches in town? I've virtually heard nothing all week. I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing.

 

[andalso]

Can LE subpoena the judge from PC? And if so, did they?
I would be interested in hearing her version of events!

 

[telemag]

Could very well be. But more like, "Oh man, Dad, I am in big trouble. I just screwed up very badly. You've got to help me!"

Have you seen his father? The bizarre, childish faces he made to the camera after court? The nasty, angry attitude? If that was me, I would be more saddened and horrified about what happened to my former daughter in law and what is happening to my son than frustrated with a swarm of photographers. And even if I lashed out at them, I wouldn't do so via odd facial expressions. Those expressions are very telling, IMO.
So because Dale's father makes funny faces means he is likey to be an accomplice to murder ?

A domestic abuser or violent person isn't usually just created from thin air. Spoiled, entitled brats who are not taught to control their tempers, to think of others, to delay gratification, along with parents who display violent or ugly conduct towards others, a disdain for others' rights, a disdain for women, and a carefully fostered belief that the brat is perfect and can do no wrong, that's usually how such monsters are created.

There are plenty of killers who are born that way or how ever you want to define it that come from loving stable homes and the opposite. My good friend's father was an alcoholic and abuser and he is the complete opposite. Would never hurt a fly and one the nicest guys you would ever meet. You just never know who will turn out what way.

I'm not sure how many of these sordid cases you may have followed but there have been several in which enabling parents or other family members hide evidence, lie for their kids or worse. casey anthony's parents did this, scott peterson's parents as well, it appears that drew peterson's adult son may have, and josh powell's dad, jerice hunter's mother, etc., etc.

There are families who believe family solidarity is of utmost importance, even when it means covering for a murdering or molesting child. What I have seen of Dale's father indicates that his may just be one of those families.

Very well may be, guess we will have to wait and see.

I don't see why this is so hard, really. First of all, we don't know that no one saw his car driving around, or the hummer driving around. The windows were tinted in that hummer, so it could be hard to determine who is driving. And maybe people saw those vehicles at a time that Dale could have been driving back and forth, but it didn't register as important to them so they didn't store that memory away.

Second, he calls dad, after stuffing Michelle away somewhere, lets dad know what's happened and dad helps him come up with a plan and helps him execute it. Kids are dropped off (or not), Dale is driven back to the house or dad goes back, one of them moves the hummer when the coast seems clear and one of the two picks the other one back up at a certain point. Same goes for disposing of Michelle.

There are so many possibilities and none of them seem close to impossible to me.

I have yet to see one good scenario that puts Dale in the middle of this as far as the time frame. Lots of guessing and speculation which is fine since it all helps in the end, but nothing yet that is concret IMO.

Again, there was a reason LE stormed Dale Sr.s house in storm trooper fashion. That indicates they believe he knows something. LE has the phone records, we don't. But I expect there was a flurry of calls between Dale and his dad during the crucial time period.

As of yet we do NOT know of any good reason and I am of the opinion and have been from day one that they had no good reason. Although I will say I'm glad they did cause you never know.

And I think, in observing father and son, that Dale wouldn't hesitate telling Daddy what he did and seeking help. Dale didn't become who he is without help, IMO.

Just some thoughts.

 

[Lark2]

From link below:

Neighbors say SWAT teams tear-gassed a home, where Parker's ex-boyfriend stays, and went inside...Police only said they are searching for "a piece of the puzzle" on where they might find her. Parker's brother, Dustin Erickson, said whatever police were looking for at the house, they did not find it. "They had reason to search the house. They searched the house, they didn't come up with what they were looking for," Erickson said. "The SWAT team was there, They had dogs there and they didn't come up with nothing."

Another story said there were crime scene investigators, etc.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/november/349745/Orlando-police-raid-house-as-part-of-Michelle-Parker-search?cid=rss

 

[tezi]

Dishonorably discharged and he displays the Marines insignia. :banghead:

He's such a special piece of work isn't he???:banghead:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Pretty Certain that's a marines decal.

This one specifically?

http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&...&tbnw=118&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0

That looks a lot closer, and makes way more sense. The anchor pointing down to the left was what made me think of the Rolling Stones mouth with tongue hanging out logo. :blushing:

 

[Psychic Sleuth]

From link below:

Neighbors say SWAT teams tear-gassed a home, where Parker's ex-boyfriend stays, and went inside...Police only said they are searching for "a piece of the puzzle" on where they might find her. Parker's brother, Dustin Erickson, said whatever police were looking for at the house, they did not find it. "They had reason to search the house. They searched the house, they didn't come up with what they were looking for," Erickson said. "The SWAT team was there, They had dogs there and they didn't come up with nothing."

Another story said there were crime scene investigators, etc.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/november/349745/Orlando-police-raid-house-as-part-of-Michelle-Parker-search?cid=rss

Thank you for this! I've asked often if they used dogs and here's my answer. I would assume if they used dogs at his father's they used them at his house and in all vehicles.

 

[FrayedKnot]

He's such a special piece of work isn't he???:banghead:

I think that wannabe Marine thing is alot like the goofy dressing up Star Wars thing. Please note MOO!

My ex always alluded to his 'bad *advertiser censored*' past in the 'Corps' and said it wasn't something he was comfortable discussing so I never pressed it. He had a USMC tattoo for God's sake!

After about 5 years of marriage, I made an off hand comment to his brother about my ex's time in the USMC and he about fell over! WHAAAAAT?

It was all some stupid lie he made up to seem 'awesome'. And he did alot to perpetuate the lie.

Aaaaand he also LOVED those sci fi conventions and would have kept getting dressed up and going to them had I not finally put my foot down and made paying our bills and parenting the priority.

Please understand this is MY experience and MOO but Dale maybe isn't a murderer although I believe he is, but his Marine :decal and Star Wars fetish are creepy and loser-y. Again, my own opinion but I think it's a sign of immaturity and dishonesty. I lived with it. And his ego and image seem to matter WAY too much to him.

 

[simlyme]

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My opinion is, I dont think he cares about any of these consequences, he was old enough to know back then that what he did would end up with a dishonorable discharge. Hes probably one of those that will use " his own psyche will be greatly damaged by the event" as a defense if he "ever" gets charged. Next thing we know he'll be suing the Marine Corps because "they " damaged him. :furious:

 

[Jazzmaster]

I just for the first time watched the whole episode.

What was your impression of the show? Just curious.

The way this was edited made them both look like a couple of idiots. This reminded me of a high school relationship - not people in 30s/40s. Real immature . *Did this set him off? *I am still not convinced this wasn't premeditated. *Michelle arrives at 3:18. *Let's say he kills her within first 12 minutes. That is 3:30. *He only has an hour to figure out what to do. If he calls *dad or someone- *phone record. *I believe someone was there with him to help.

Without a plan how does he pull off a perfect murder - no witnesses, no DNA, no body, no sign of a crime. *It is almost flawless.

Now If he also established witnesses other than his parents of a 4:30 arrival at his parent's house he establishes a pretty solid alibi. *He the n has parents backing him that he was there 4:30-10:30. He has a Facebook post of police with him at 11:00. This is way too complex to have been put together IMO without advanced planning. *If he gets caught he has murder one in my book.

Any other thoughts on this timeline?

 

[Jazzmaster]

I guess I expected a whole lot to be coming out after they found so much info on her phone. If they indeed could have tracked her whereabouts via gps I would have expected more searches. Perhaps the phone didn't show so much? Or perhaps the phone didn't show any remote locations? Maybe they are doing a little more fine tuned searches in town? I've virtually heard nothing all week. I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing.

I firmly believe the phone was used for two main *purposes:

*1. To track how concerned Michelle's family was and if need be buy time (text at 4:26)

2. To throw off police trail. Run a distraction route that never leads to the body.

If I am wrong on #2 Dale is much more stupid than he looks... No criminal lets the phone gps lead the police to the body, but stranger things have happened I guess.

 

[nobodynoz]

Pias, it is interesting that you mentioned E. Colonial Dr./Hwy. 50 as a place to search for remains, because for the past couple of weeks or so, I keep coming back to that route in my mind, although you are more focused on Christmas, and I don't have a specific area in mind along 50. I just keep thinking of that route.

There is no supernatural component to my thoughts on this. I think part of the reason I keep coming back to that route is that way back when I grew up there, we always took 50 to the coast when we were going to the beach. Even after the beeline was built, we still took 50 because it was more interesting to us. The beeline was too straight and monotonous.

Of course, I know 50 has changed a lot since those days. Back then, it was just a two lane road.

 

[AlwaysWright]

Well I have some updated information. Back on December 4th when i went to take pictures of DS Jr Condo to confirm the location, I did not see any flyer within this condo complex. I now know why - Enroute to my many travels today I could not help but stop back by this complex to get an updated perspective. I stopped and talked to a lady who was walking her dog and I asked her if this was the neighborhood where MP was last seen. She of course responed, "Yes" so I asked her why would there not be any signs or posters? She kindly told me that there had been an official notice sent throught the mail and that there is information posted in the office and post box area along with detectives speaking to homeowners. She also told me that the entrance/exit did have MP's vehicle on video and that there was not decals on her vehicle when departing this condo complex. LE does know the exact time MP did in fact leave that complex. We had a really good conversation and she knew alot about the incident along with DS Jr.location. During the first week after November the 17th, LE did indeed check the woods and surrounding area in close proximity to DS Jr. condo - (I also witnessed this happening) horseback and all.

Another important thing to note is that when MP's hummer was found we all know this would have been relayed to the news media and there is no footage of this vehicle in tow. This just goes to prove LE is keeping this close to the vest and the media is in full compliance. It was not that long ago Central Florida learned its lesson with the CA Case......

One final note: DS Jr. driveway still had a white van, gold impala (damaged trunk) and the little white Ford P/U parked off the street. I took so more photos if anyone cares to view.... Also Oakridge Road at 6:00 P.M is a dark road and not so easy to see what type of vehicle is traveling on it unless you are either right beside or behind. I was Xmas shopping at Bass Pro Shop which is right off Oakridge/International Dr.

Hope everyone has a wonderful night and I hope and pray we can soon bring MP home.


IMO LE knows what they need to know and are just building this case to where it needs to be. The reason they are not releasing info to the public is to secure a conviction. The know who the perp is and it is just dotting all the i's and Crossing all the T's.

BTW the raw video a couple of pages back - Dale sure knew how to keep his face from being viewed on camera. I bet he did the same thing in MP's Hummer by putting the visor down...... I just would not even think of putting my visor down when approached by a camera I would want to see where I am going DS Jr. is obviously a pro at hiding behind things.... IMO Snake in the Grass.....

 

[Cblewife]

Pias, it is interesting that you mentioned E. Colonial Dr./Hwy. 50 as a place to search for remains, because for the past couple of weeks or so, I keep coming back to that route in my mind, although you are more focused on Christmas, and I don't have a specific area in mind along 50. I just keep thinking of that route.

There is no supernatural component to my thoughts on this. I think part of the reason I keep coming back to that route is that way back when I grew up there, we always took 50 to the coast when we were going to the beach. Even after the beeline was built, we still took 50 because it was more interesting to us. The beeline was too straight and monotonous.

Of course, I know 50 has changed a lot since those days. Back then, it was just a two lane road.

Struck a nerve with me too. I grew up off of E 50 and we always went to Cocoa Beach this way........right through Titusville. I found myself looking up places of interest in the area. Still not a lot there for sure.

 

[nobodynoz]

Provisional Comments: Helpful observations without official verification
Notes: Information with some official verification that may help toward resolution
Verified: Answered using official verification (may include supplemental evidence)

1. Name and address of the twins’ daycare facility.
2. Time when MP picked up the twins from daycare.
3. What time did MP’s Hummer leave DS II’s condo?
4. Eyewitness or video of above?
5. When did DS II leave the condo in his own vehicle?
6. Did DS II know about his neighbor’s video camera? Provisional Comments: The camera is in plain view on the balcony, as seen in photo taken 12/4 by AlwaysWright http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/AlwaysWright01/?action=view&current=December4822.jpg. (Contributed by 4BB)
7. Did neighbors of DS Sr. see vehicles arriving and leaving on 11/17 afternoon?
8. Location MP’s cell pinged for 4:26 PM “Waterford” text to brother.
9. When was MP supposed to meet boyfriend NM for dinner?
10. When did MP’s sister LE call DS II on 11/17, and what time did Yvonne call DS II 11/17 evening?
11. What numbers did she try and when (ie, cell, or land line at condo or Rose Av.)?
12. If Mrs. DS Sr. (TS) answered the call to Rose Av., what did she say to Yvonne in reference to why DS II couldn’t come to the phone?
13. When did DS II return Yvonne’s call, and from what number?
14. When did LE first contact DS II, and how?
15. Did LE search DS II’s condo on evening of 11/17, and when did DS II return to his condo from Rose Ave. evening of 11/17 to meet LE?
16. When he returned, were the twins with him, or did he leave them at DS Sr.’s house?
17. Was MP’s cell on the entire time up until it was powered down the evening of 11/17, and if it was powered on the entire time, was it moving around constantly (like in a car), or static in one or more locations? What locations have been noted for her cell between 3:18 PM and when it was powered down?
18. Additional unreleased videos or other electronic evidence to track the route of MP’s Hummer after 3:18 PM on 11/17 (including OnStar, even if it was inactive). Notes: Helpful information and links explaining EPass--http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7430815&postcount=400 (Provided by Sparky, 12/12)
19. Additional unreleased eyewitness accounts of Hummer movements around town after 3:18 PM.
20. Details of search warrant for DS Sr.'s house on Rose Ave.
21. What is MP’s boyfriend NM’s alibi for 11/17 afternoon, and where was he during the times in question?
22. Who else called or texted MP on 11/17 after 2:30 PM?
23. Did MP send or receive any texts or make or receive any calls to/from DS II on 11/16 or on 11/17 before 3:18 PM?
24. Did DS II’s cell ever leave his condo? If so, was his cell on the entire time, and if it was, what locations have been noted for his cell after 3:18 PM on 11/17?
25. Does DS Sr. own a cell? If so, was his cell on the entire time, and what locations have been noted for his cell after 3:18 PM on 11/17?
26. What if any evidence did LE find in and on the Hummer?
27. What fingerprints were on MP's Hummer and her purse and belongings, and where were these located in the Hummer when it was found?
28. If Dale's prints were found in her Hummer does he frequently get in her car?
29. Was the Hummer driver's seat set for MP or someone taller?
30. Were all the Hummer mirrors adjusted to the seat level? Whose fingerprints were on the mirror?
31. Was the Hummer recently washed?
32. Did the floor mats and wheel wells of the Hummer or other DS II/Sr. vehicles have any type of dirt mud or material that would possibly match up with a body of water that is nearby?
33. What if any evidence did LE find at the Rose Ave. house and in any vehicles at the house?
34. Did LE search DS II’s work van and truck?
35. Did LE check DS II’s trash inside and out?
36. For 11/17 search of DS II’s condo, who arrived at the condo for the search first: LE or DS II?
37. If LE was there first, did DS II arrive in his truck & pull into the garage or did someone else drive him?
38. If DS II was already there when LE arrived, were there any other vehicles or persons there with him?
39. Does DS II own a bicycle, or have access to one at the Rose Avenue house?
40. Confirm ownership of a white van that appears in the condo neighbor’s video, and in a later interview with the neighbor. Is this van DS II’s or a neighbor’s? Provisional Comments: Interview shows larger white van in DS II’s driveway (Chevy), white van shown in neighbor’s video appears to be different make (Dodge?) (provided by Cerebellum, 12/4); the taillights and door handles are different (provided by Kimb103, 12/4)
41. Did DS II have his own car seats for the twins, or did DS II and MP share car seats?
42. Did the Hummer have child car seats when found?
43. Did/will LE search bodies of water near the parking lot where the Hummer was found?
44. Would it be possible and effective for LE to use heat sensors from helicopters, at night, to help in searches?
45. Has LE used or will they use metal detectors to aid in finding the cell phone during searches? Provisional Comments: LE located cell; see #78 for new questions
46. Where is DS II’s unit located within the condo, especially with respect to his neighbor RG’s camera? Verified: Orange County property records http://www.ocpafl.org/ indicate address as 6598 S. Goldenrod unit 98C, photos of DS II’s condo http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/AlwaysWright01/ show that unit C is on the right side, RG lives on the left side unit, and RG’s camera captures his parking area and a portion of the street to the northeast of his side of the unit (provided by AlwaysWright, 12/4)
47. If Carter Glen (DS II’s condo complex) has cameras or other devices at the north and south entrances and exits to the complex, did one or more capture any images or records of MP’s Hummer arriving and/or leaving on 11/17, along with time of arrival and departure? Provisional Comments: The gates to the complex are closed and require one of the following: (1) Enter a specific code to open gate (Guests given code by Homeowner); (2) Card or Gate Opener to open gate (Homeowner); (3) Use the directory to contact Homeowner so they can buzz you in using phone; (4) Follow a car that has been granted access. (provided by AlwaysWright, 12/5)
48. Did Carter Glen cameras or other devices capture any images or records of DS II’s vehicles arriving or leaving on 11/17 and 18, along with time of arrival and departure?
49. Did Carter Glen cameras or other devices, capture any images or records of DS II’s family vehicles arriving or leaving on 11/17?
50. Does DS Sr. have restrictions or physical disabilities that prevent him from being able to drive?
51. Did DS II spend the night of 11/17, after the LE search, at his condo?
52. What time did DS II leave his condo for work on Friday, 11/18?
53. What vehicle was he driving from his condo on 11/18 AM?
54. Did he make any stops to load work materials, change vehicles, etc. before leaving Orlando area?
55. What route did he take to reach Titusville?
56. What time did he arrive at his work destination in Titusville?
57. Address of work destination in Titusville?
58. What evidence has LE found at any warehouses, storage facilities, or other properties to which DS II or Sr. has access? Notes: Some properties owned by DS Jr, and Sr. now or in the past include 1982 Rose Blvd Home; 1984 Allied Roofing bORN - Listed as Rose Blvd Address; 2002 Lot & Unit at Sky Lake; 2005 Property off of Church St. no address just legal desc; 2005 Property at Pineway Drive - Sold the same year as aquired; 2007 Another property and unit on Sky Lake ; 2008 Condo in Carter Glen (provided by Angelonline, 12/04, per Orange Co Comptroller Records); http://paarcgis2.ocpafl.org/ObliqueView/default.aspx?pid=292229000000174 property at S. Mission Rd. off 526 belonging to DS Sr. (provided by Cerebellum, 12/7); LE search canal behind house owned by DS Sr. at 6806 Chaucer Ln. (occupied by DS Sr’s sister according to neighbors) on 12/9. Map of parcels owned by DS Sr. http://paarcgis.ocpafl.org/Webmap2/...2322620803130|292326808707920|302323120597030 (Provided by Coldpizza, 12/9)
59. In the days or weeks prior to 11/17, did MP express to friends or family members any apprehension about or annoyance with someone she encountered at her workplace or elsewhere?
60. Does MP have a storage unit, and has this been checked for evidence by LE?
61. Stills from the neighbor’s video show two different dark SUV vehicles leaving at two different times on 11/17, ie 17:17 and 16:40 (5:17 PM and 4:40 PM). LE has reported that the Hummer leaving on the video at 16:40 belongs to a neighbor on the street, not MP. Is the other departing vehicle a Hummer, and does it belong to MP or to yet another neighbor? Provisional Comments: Hummer leaving at 16:40 appears to be a dark grey color (provided bynotmissing, 12/04) Black SUV leaving at 17:17 has a license plate centered on the back, which is different license plate placement than MP’s Hummer, which is left rear (provided by SmoothOperator, 12/6) Photos of 08 Hummers confirm the plates to be on the left rear. MP’s Hummer is thought to be an 08. (provided by taagean & SmoothOperator 12/6)
62. Activities, times, and other details, including calls and texts, demeanor, conversation topics, etc., of MP’s day on 11/17, beginning when she arises and ending with 3:18 PM arrival at DS II’s condo. Provisional Comments and Notes: NM and MP had coffee that morning, time unknown (provided by ?); apparently cheerful cell texts between MP and sister LE reveal that MP was going to the salon at 11:30 AM for a Keratin treatment by LE, and that MP was going shoe (?) shopping with her mother Yvonne within the hour before going to the salon. (Provided by SmoothOperator, 12/6)
63. In the video of the condo search, DS II’s truck is in the garage. Where is DS II's work van?
64. When did MP and NM meet face to face on 11/17, and when did they talk or text one another on their cells that day, other than the 3:15 text? Provisional Comments: NM and MP met for coffee in AM, time unknown.
65. When did NM try to contact MP (text or call her cell) after 3:18 PM on 11/17?
66. If incoming white van as recorded by neighbor’s video, (subsequently parked on the street) is that of a neighbor or visitor to the condos, what did the driver of that van observe relative to MP, DS II, the twins, and MP’s Hummer?
67. Did MP have any mobile tanning appointments on 11/17, and when? With new or established customers?
68. Was 11/17 a scheduled visitation day for DS II to take the twins? If not, what are the details of how and when this visitation was arranged?
69. Where did MP park the Hummer when she was dropping off the twins at DS II’s?
70. Was DS II’s garage open, or did MP go to the front door of the condo?
71. What vehicles were parked inside or in the driveway of DS II’s garage when MP arrived to drop off the twins?
72. Has LE searched or will they search Titusville areas, and possible route(s) from Orlando to Titusville, and what evidence was found, if any?
73. What time did MP’s 11 year old son arrive home from school on 11/17? Provisional Comments: MP’s sister LE said that the child usually got off the bus at around 3:30 PM
74. Did he try calling his mom, and what time(s) did he try calling her? Provisional Comments: MP’s sister LE said that the child usually called his mother when he got off the school bus.
75. Did anyone attempt to call or text MP between 3:18 and 4:26 on 11/17?
76. DS II’s neighbor with the cam was not home when MP arrived, and says he saw nothing when he did arrive home. What time did neighbor arrive home?
77. Other than DS II’s mother and father, who else received subpoenas as of 12/6?
78. Where, when and how was MP’s cell found? Provisional Comments: On 12/7, LE released news that MP’s cell was found, thrown in the water near Lake Conway from a bridge, although which of two possible bridges is uncertain at this time; Bob Kealing identifies correct bridge as on Nela 12/9 (Provided by ?) News report suggests that cell wasn’t found due to one specific tip http://vidcache.newsoverwireless.com...FL-3417293.mp4 (Contributed by JerseyGirl, 12/13) Photos of both bridges, with Nela Bridge brush appearing more disturbed Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #14 (Provided by AlwaysWright)
79. On which side of the bridge was the cell found, to help determine direction car was traveling?
80. What, if any, is the forensic evidence recovered from the cell?
81. What data, if any, was recovered from the cell?
82. Did MP attempt to call eleven y o son around 3:30 on, on 11/17?
83. Have landfills been searched, and evidence found?
84. Did DS II take the twins to DS Sr.’s house on 11/17, and when did he leave his condo and arrive at the Rose Ave. house? Provisional Comments: MN, attorney for DS II and DS Sr., said that a witness can verify that DS II had arrived at the Rose Ave. house at 4:30 PM. http://www.wesh.com/r/29958175/detail.html (Provided by Analyze This).
85. Did DS II have a standard routine when he had the twins, and if so, did his actions/movement on 11/17 afternoon vary from that routine?
86. Will or have the twins been interviewed by LE, and if interviewed, what observations did they offer about what they remember from 11/17?
87. Did LE search DS II’s condo on evening of 11/18 (Fri). If so, details of search.
88. Details of where and when cadaver dogs have been used in this case, with evidence obtained.
89. Was the spare tire cover gone when the Hummer was found by LE?
90. Does DS II have a current girlfriend?
91. Is it possible that a cell phone could stay on a significant length of time, even when underwater?
92. When did MP last gas up the Hummer?
93. Could car have been gassed up by perp? Paper trail?
94. Use of odometer reading and/or fuel level and mileage of Hummer to determine how far it was driven after 3:18 PM on 11/17.
95. Where did MP live, and with whom? Verified: The family, including MP, lives on a few acres in Geneva, FL. Rural and very nice. (contributed by Sparky, 12/11) They live on Guy Court in Seminole County. (Contributed by Fact Finder, 12/14)
96. Who is the owner of the Chevy Impala with either an open or bent trunk, shown in photos of DS II’s condo (http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/AlwaysWright01/ taken by AlwaysWright on 12/4)? Provisional Comments: Has Mass. Plate. Exmp pictured at http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/12/green_license_p.html (Provided by Cerebellum); plates seem to read 100-ATE (Provided by Misfitdolly).
97. What kind of keychain/keyfob did MP have? Any special features?
98. How many sets of keys existed for the Hummer, and did DS II have a set?
99. Was the Hummer locked when finally located by LE? Does the Hummer have an automatic lock (locking after a time)?
100. Was the “Waterford” text an auto-correct fail?
101. What type of decal was the Glow decal on the Hummer rear window—static cling or adhesive?
102. Alligator behavior with remains. Provisional Comments: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 #13 and Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 #13 (Contributed by Swamp Mama, 12/13) Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 #13 (Contributed by Reality Orlando, 12/14)
103. Did LE take DS II’s computer and cell, and what evidence was obtained from these?
104. Was MP’s tanning equipment in the Hummer when it was found, and was the equipment intact?
105. Other than MP’s cell and keys, what other personal items were missing when the Hummer was found.
106. Was MP’s wallet missing, in her handbag, or in the Hummer but separate from the handbag?
107. Does DS II still work for MASCO Cabinetry, located at 2901 Titan Row, Orlando? Verified: Tony Pipitone confirmed that this is DS II’s employer. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 #13
108. Did DS II make any suspicious purchases prior to 11/17, i.e. a large cooler?
109. Any eyewitness accounts or electronic evidence at Carter Glen condos that DS II had other visitors right before, at, or soon after 3:18 on 11/17?
110. What has LE discovered about the activities of DS II’s close friends on 11/17?
111. Is LE viewing/using the unedited PC episode for clues or insight? Would they consider subpoenaing the PC judge?

 

[Jazzmaster]

She also told me that the entrance/exit did have MP's vehicle on video and that there was not decals on her vehicle when departing this condo complex. LE does know the exact time MP did in fact leave that complex. .....

Are you saying Michelle left the complex (on video) or just her vehicle without knowing who was driving? I'm confused...

 

[Kamille]

I firmly believe the phone was used for two main *purposes:

*1. To track how concerned Michelle's family was and if need be buy time (text at 4:26)

2. To throw off police trail. Run a distraction route that never leads to the body.

If I am wrong on #2 Dale is much more stupid than he looks... No criminal lets the phone gps lead the police to the body, but stranger things have happened I guess.

I agree with you on both points regarding the phone Jazzmaster. I've thought since very early on that DS2 killed Michelle in a fit of rage and that he enlisted the help of DS1 to help him out after the fact. Nothing I've read since then has changed my mind about that.

Considering that the phone was found in water and the rumour that DS1 may have had his boat out the next day, I don't think either of them are stupid and are quite familiar with how to hide a body and try to throw LE off the trail. So because of those two things leading to a possible water disposal, I think it's possible they were both deliberate attempts to make LE believe that she was placed in water. I bet if they ever find the keys, they would be found in water too.

MOO

 

[nobodynoz]

Struck a nerve with me too. I grew up off of E 50 and we always went to Cocoa Beach this way........right through Titusville. I found myself looking up places of interest in the area. Still not a lot there for sure.

I grew up off E 50 too!

 

[Cerebellum]

Alwayswright: 1st, you are awesome! Thank you! 2nd, did you notice cameras at the gated entrances/exits?