POI: Joseph Brewer

[En Passant]

I can't find it in my browser history, but I think it was in the comments of that article with a title something like, "Long Island Serial Killer Suspect May Have Done Nothing Worse Than Just Hiring A Hooker." It had a sort of "hey dood" tone to it. Do you know the one I mean?

Did nothing more than Bang***,,,,was the wording & yes it also sounds like the other disabled sites tone.....Imo that hey dude...is like nails on a chalk board or almost like "I'm Back"
Also the word Creepy constantly applied.....that word never comes to mind...I could never live in a place I constantly feel creepy..."Creeped Out" .....about things....something simuliar to stage setting IMO
Lights, Action & Roll
That word Creepy aka Spooky feel.....a holloween movie & teenager come to mind

This is how I feel..... appalled, upset, Empathy, Shocked, Very Concerned a SK has not been brought in & all these missing & deceased young Kids are gone???

Liked the earlier references to Sock Puppets.....thats what I get
That song comes to mind Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

I'm backkkkkk.........kind of Motion..........verbage

I really want to know why Joesph Brewer......hired girls so far away?????
Thats why I think there is a link to AC4.......

 

[alaskanblue]

Slipping someone a drug has the added benefit of not having your face scratched off when you are choking someone, maybe this is why he also prefers short victims? If his arms are much longer than hers, she can't attack his face.

Being a fairly technical person myself, which probably makes me bias in this response, I haven't seen any evidence what so ever, or any reason to believe the perp has strong technology skills. Most everyone in black market biz uses burn phones, that doesn't make them tech savy. I think most people on ws suffer from bias due to media reporting and hollywood glorification of hacking or technology. I dont watch tv shows but I do know the crime shows love this topic. I have seen no evidence of above average technical ability: he can browse the internet and use a prepaid phone. That is all we have. And given that he has been picking up street walkers in 2000, 2003, and 2006 in AC (if), I have to say he is likely much older and didnt become wise to the nets anonymity until the first G4, pretty late in my opinion. Moreover, making anon fone calls from time square and penn station lets me know he is no techy, no hacker, and likely learned his "tech skills" from poorly written television programs.

Interesting point on the stature of the victims, it'd make it easier to strangle them having longer arms. I have a feeling that this SK enjoys the face to face strangling and seeing the life ebb from his victims. And he certainly doesn't want to have any attention drawn to himself by getting his face scratched up.

 

[En Passant]

Good ideas in this post, IMO. I too think the perp has access to money. I just wonder if it was legitimately earned? Maybe he could be a trust fund baby?

I could see the perp slipping the victims a Mickey because it would make it easier for him to abduct them. But at some point, because he is a pervy sadist, he likes the victims awake and screaming. He has to see terror in the victims. JMO.

The attorney for the Barthelemy (Melissa Barthelemy's sister is the one who received the phone calls) family received a tip from the exwife of a person in the tech field. The exwife explained that she felt her exhusband might be the LI perp because he was mysteriously absent during the times some of the women disappeared. She related to the attorney that her ex also has an "elaborate basement". The attorney was extremely confident this tip would lead to an arrest and conviction. All of this is in the A&E special at about the 1:24/25 mark. You can find the special on YouTube.

[SIZE="2"[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]I watched the special & did not see where the Lawyer recieved a tip info????
It sounds like the "Tip" truth was talking about to ne & In my opinion, That was also brought up during a heavy bout of Joseph Brewer being the POI ......as this is what the thread is about...unless I am on the wrong thread which would not be uncommon...lol

I thought it was a hoax, it was a staged & set up to get people focused off of Brewer. By a bunch of Sock Puppets you so graciously defined. I had no idea about that although I thought it was 2 or 3 running the who show taking focus off of Brewer creating hysteria & threats.....
I am grateful for webslueths & must admit I read the TOS only yesterday which than gave me the outline. I realized that I said to much etc & sorry to you & all for that.

When I saw the news report about what happened I was dumb & niave...I was very concerned & wanted to show my support to the victims Fam....I did not have any idea about the Evil that walks amongst us.


I got a real good stiff punch in the stomach....that will never happen again so I now understand TOS, Sock Puppets & the Freedom to feel Joesph Brewer is the SK IMO. He fits the profile like a glove....Not like OJ Simpsons though.......I do not think people are tolerating abuse.

So thanx for the pointers, tips & link to TOS

I love this thread.....FINALLY​

 

[susan1122]

Now that you mention it, I do vaguely remember that.

I have been looking for a link on JB not knowing SG was bringing a driver, no luck so far. I wonder if it was in Newsday.....is that the name of the LI paper? I can't see that paper, usually, because I'm not a subscriber.

 

[dcgrumpy]

I don't remember reading that he didn't know she was coming with a driver. But even if he didn't, he knew she was getting there on her own somehow. Either a cab driver (witness) or driving herself and then he'd be stuck with her car there.

 

[susan1122]

Yes I, too would be interestEd to see that JB was somehow shocked/dismayed to see that Shannan was delivered to his house via her personal driver.. Because in seeing that he didn't provide the transportation for her from Manhatten to Oak Beach(over an hour away) I would find it odd for him to be in the least bit surprised/dismayed to see that she arrived with a driver.. IMO I would think that would have been learned at the onset when setting up the "date" as in he's not providing transportation so I'd believe he'd have known there was a driver and there would actually have to be address/directions that were even given at this time.. Of course unless JB was not a first time client, but from what I gather he was not a repeat or regular john because he claimed to not be pleased with her looks and possibly even questioning her gender which definitely points to the fact that he did not know Shannan or had not met Shannan prior..

So I'd be interested to see that he was somehow surprised and possibly even dismayed at her showing up with a personal driver..

Tia if you come upon where you saw that info please post

I remember when I read that, about JB being surprised about the driver I thought it didn't add up, because he supposedly called MP later to get him to help get SG out of his house. Maybe that is why I remember that quote.....it didn't sound right. And as some of us have said, JB does not seem like the most trustworthy person. I am not sure I would believe many of his quotes in the news. Still, thought it was interesting.

P.s. I'll keep looking for the quote.....but yeah, even if he said that, it doesn't hold water.

 

[truthspider]

I don't remember reading that he didn't know she was coming with a driver. But even if he didn't, he knew she was getting there on her own somehow. Either a cab driver (witness) or driving herself and then he'd be stuck with her car there.

I don't recall it either, and I have read all the material multiple times and closely.
It is also a moot point in my opinion as the other victims were picked up, and didnt drive themselves. So whether JB thought she was driving herself, or getting a ride doesnt matter. The JB and SG meeting doesn't follow the killers protocol period. There exists a man who carefully, methodically, and secretly hunts escorts and JB isn't any of those things.

 

[En Passant]

What I read was he owned this grocery store with a family member.

I really don't know enough about him to post about him. lol My first take on him was not positive is all I can say. I think we need to get a take on him from someone who knows him, like you said. If it's not in a MSM link it isn't seen as confirmed. And if it is, it still might be incorrect. :waitasec:

You make a valid point in reference to being confirmed I often feel I have this little song playing in my head "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap". When it comes to Joesph Brewer ..... Just giving an opinion & theory .....one needs Lawyers, Guns & Money...Now please all it is just a figure of speech....no need for caution or alerting the Hard working monitors....meant harmlessly. I feel like this thread at times is a full time job due to credit & discrediting.
I read TOS where I didn't before so sorry all.

I wonder if his Liqueor store has a basement?
I wonder if the drifter worked @ Store????
I would think owning the liqueor store he would have many connections/contacts throughout the years for hiring girls?
If Joesph Brewer has had these parties for a long time....how is it he does not have a regular?
Why does he troll @ late hours on comp on sites like all the other deceased young victims?

What he does ....does not add up to being normal IMO in any way shape or form.

Joseph Brewers actions created so much circumstantial evidence.

1. Joesph Brewer Never intented on paying for services, Stated by him directly to 48 hour reporter.
2. Hired & arrainged to pay for services...even agreed to time frame & price. Shannan & Driver do not drive an hour on a wing & prayer.
3. Joesph Brewer Aggressed on Shannan by pulling her by the back of head. No one has that right no matter who you are, unless you are a professional LE or in hosp. IMO.
4. Joesph Brewer Displayed Anger as well as claimed Shannan was a male. See 48 hours for #3 too.
5. There were 2 Deceased male victims one dressed as a female?
6. One victim blunt force to head....well that sounds formiliar IMO.
Shannans head?
7. Shannan claimed she was going to be Killed? Yes confirmed by 911 & nieghbor
8. Shannan spoke to 911 even though she outed herself & had a brush with LE ...Shannan felt Her Life was at Risk. 48 hours Robin Sax gives a real good description of what Shannan said & her FEAR FOR HER LIFE
9. Doctor Called claimed he didn't but did?
10. Upon Shannan arrival where did they go the first 15 minutes or so?
11. Joesph Brewer's car was searched, his house, apparently due to suspicion.
12, Than missing Bodies of young deceased girls start appearing, like a bad dream.These girls also worked on craigs list

Now how can Joesph Brewer not be a POI in MY Opinion?
Why have I READ ......RUMORED....He is not smart enough?

Is It possible to request that Link?

Why was it rumored that Joseph Brewers Wife was "Butt Crazy"????
I would think he is....she has no record, she doesn't hire escorts & have nieghbors over partying all night, why is she being rumored "Crazy"?
His wife has not been linked to missing people, but he has.

Joesph Brewers wife is a victim, daughter & family IMO, & it's sad they lose there dignity for a cheating dirty dog IMO who is a possible Serial Killer

 

[Dwntwnslim]

This is just a Guess on my part but, JB probably said he didn't pay SG so he wouldn't get thrown in jail for soliciting a prostitute.

 

[dcgrumpy]

You make a valid point in reference to being confirmed I often feel I have this little song playing in my head "Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap". When it comes to Joesph Brewer ..... Just giving an opinion & theory .....one needs Lawyers, Guns & Money...Now please all it is just a figure of speech....no need for caution or alerting the Hard working monitors....meant harmlessly. I feel like this thread at times is a full time job due to credit & discrediting. I read TOS where I didn't before so sorry all.

I wonder if his Liqueor store has a basement?
I wonder if the drifter worked @ Store????
I would think owning the liqueor store he would have many connections/contacts throughout the years for hiring girls?
If Joesph Brewer has had these parties for a long time....how is it he does not have a regular?
Why does he troll @ late hours on comp on sites like all the other deceased young victims?

What he does ....does not add up to being normal IMO in any way shape or form.

Joseph Brewers actions created so much circumstantial evidence.

1. Joesph Brewer Never intented on paying for services, Stated by him directly to 48 hour reporter.
2. Hired & arrainged to pay for services...even agreed to time frame & price. Shannan & Driver do not drive an hour on a wing & prayer.
3. Joesph Brewer Aggressed on Shannan by pulling her by the back of head. No one has that right no matter who you are, unless you are a professional LE or in hosp. IMO.
4. Joesph Brewer Displayed Anger as well as claimed Shannan was a male. See 48 hours for #3 too.
5. There were 2 Deceased male victims one dressed as a female?
6. One victim blunt force to head....well that sounds formiliar IMO.
Shannans head?
7. Shannan claimed she was going to be Killed? Yes confirmed by 911 & nieghbor
8. Shannan spoke to 911 even though she outed herself & had a brush with LE ...Shannan felt Her Life was at Risk. 48 hours Robin Sax gives a real good description of what Shannan said & her FEAR FOR HER LIFE
9. Doctor Called claimed he didn't but did?
10. Upon Shannan arrival where did they go the first 15 minutes or so?
11. Joesph Brewer's car was searched, his house & missing Bodies of young deceased girls start appearring, like a bad dream.

Now how can Joesph Brewer not be a POI in MY Opinion?
Why have I READ ......RUMORED....He is not smart enough?

Is It possible to request that Link?

Why was it rumored that Joseph Brewers Wife was "Butt Crazy"????
I would think he is....she has no record, she doesn't hire escorts & have nieghbors over partying all night, why is she being rumored "Crazy"?
His wife has not been linked to missing people, but he has.

Joesph Brewers wife is a victim, daughter & family IMO, & it's sad they lose there dignity for a cheating dirty dog IMO who is a possible Serial Killer

You keep saying that JB grabbed her by the back of the head. Where did you get this information?

ETA
This is the only reference I can find about him grabbing her. http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...d+gilbert&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a Nothing about him grabbing her by the back of the head

Later, Pak said, Brewer summoned him to the house to try to get Gilbert out. Brewer grabbed her from behind at one point, Pak said. But she slipped out of his grasp and crouched behind a sofa, where she dialed 911 in a 23-minute call, placed at 4:51 a.m., and told the operator, "They’re trying to kill me."

 

[WINDSOR]

Now how can Joesph Brewer not be a POI in MY Opinion?

EnPassant;

JB is an unsavory individual, but there are reasons that he may not have killed SG, but still he could be the LISK.

1) Since SG knew JB and had already run from his house it is not likely she would have returned to him or his house that night.

2) If JB had SG after she disappeared, he would have to have killed her, hide the body, move the body out of Oak Beach and then at a later date place her clothes and her body in the marsh.

3) Once SG had run away from JB's house; and remember JB wanted her to leave; what would JB's motive to kill SG then? If he was going to kill her he could have done it a lot more easily in the three hours they spent together; rather than waiting for SG to leave and then JB chasing after her.

4) JB may be involved as an accomplice to the other previously named POI but I do not think he is the main culprit in SG's death. But I believe JB knows more about the events that night than he has said.

MOO

 

[En Passant]

Has anyone analysed all the FB contacts of JB. I found one his friend to be a cop in NY. I will post if its not against the TOS. Also, I would like to know if anyone contacted his friends from FB about JB and his story? I know its little over the line but some of his friends might not be aware of what he is involved in.

Well a while back there use to be this web site that was developed from a native of the LI area close to Brewer......this person also knew a nyc police officer & inerviewed him......

Connections are abundant for the ........... convience I am sure....IMO well planned out becoming friends theory .......I believe the poster that said he thought the Perp/SK was behind the Site....MEEE TOOOO

 

[En Passant]

I don't remember reading that he didn't know she was coming with a driver. But even if he didn't, he knew she was getting there on her own somehow. Either a cab driver (witness) or driving herself and then he'd be stuck with her car there.

Just thinking another victim took the train in...that was thought out...now just for the sake of it ...What if Brewer was surprised? Maybe he was evolving & kicking it up a bit by making the Driver look guilty...he tried to send Driver to CVS....maybe well we know JB was upset he was stupid enough to agress on Shannan so maybe thats when he realized somethings up...he will try to get rid of him via cvs & say SG took off he has no idea.....now if he knew the driver was already in trouble & wanted no police involvement....even after kicking her out he wanted more time....lots of Bull IMO......he said she was a male....I believe JB created a whole drama & it may have worked due to an asain male with blunt force that may have been a driver.......now I would bet there are a few cars disposed of...after all the victims.......1 car at least....Imagine. Bingo...some dna

P.S. maybe the girl & Baby is not a rumor & is true about them renting an apt...than he may have taken them in his vehicle....or is there a vehicle missing....you know rumors are there due to some leakage also....JMO about Joesph nothing surprises me. I just feel he is cocky & evil & thinking about other site many posters where talking about making drinks..wonder if that was about going to liqueor store. In the finest stores there are the seedy.....who gravate towards the seedy & the fact brewer cheated on wife & was direspectful & felt entitled blows my mind. Not one shred of honesty in that blood IMO pure evil I get

I could see him stressing to victim his wife is divorcing him due to using escort so he is super hyper vigilent & has Doc friend some goodies & it was worth a 2 hour car ride & it has to be late in evening due to nieghbors overlooking etc.

He has Many ways to get in there heads ....thats what he does JMO...The Doc...Colletti ...they talked ...they displayed some compassion ...not Mr StoneWall Jackson IMO....NOTHING which points more to him than any1 IMO...that reason alone aloing with the dozens ofd other circumstail evidence. I think he is a simpleton, exploits love to go through phones for pics etc....

The Speed Freak Killer , Ridgeway, BTK ...they get there last harrah by telling there gruesome stories watching woman get sick & discusted it's the final big blow to humanity...thats pure evil imo
If he is the SK which I would put everything I own on him.....there is no way to fix him seriously....when animals & people are sick from a termonial illness well I say there choice needs to be respected but a cold blooded Sadist SK....Front of the line & hope he recycle to a better being or entity in next transition.

My favorite Thread

 

[dcgrumpy]

Which victim took a train where?

 

[dc20015]

Dc
What a great contribution you are to this site......Love your swift responses

:clap:​

Thanks!

 

[En Passant]

This is just a Guess on my part but, JB probably said he didn't pay SG so he wouldn't get thrown in jail for soliciting a prostitute.

See that interview was taken later so I tend to believe he told LE that. Sure he talked & was prompted. If he lawyered up I think that would have created a firestorm. I believe he is directed by Lawyer to look innocent. Sociopaths know the deal. Play dumb......& infiltrate thats what perps sk do & imo he is the guy

 

[twocuriouscats]

Which victim took a train where?

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-30/...thelemy-maureen-brainard-barnes/4?_s=PM:CRIME

MBB took a train into NYC

 

[En Passant]

You keep saying that JB grabbed her by the back of the head. Where did you get this information?

ETA
This is the only reference I can find about him grabbing her. http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...d+gilbert&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a Nothing about him grabbing her by the back of the head

Seeing he said he grabbed her, he later stated in an article is was by the back of head...google....it's been stated by more than me.

What about the rest of the info? Pretty accurate? Not pulling any fasties, honest.

To me goes with the flow....if you feel comfortable about grabbing her than thats okay for you. I believe what I read.

JB GRABBED SG by the back....that was a total off gaurd move to say the least IMO. I feel there is no big discrepancy. Joesph Aggressed on SG which opted a 911 call fearing for her life. Outing herself & possibly outing the driver...that was fear Driven 23 minutes, no doubt in my mind, rob Sax & many others....
Everyone has there opinion. You have the jist which is pretty overwhelming critical as to what happened to Shannan Gilbert @ Joseph Brewers...to wind up Dead...Something, gave many facts

 

[dcgrumpy]

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-30/...thelemy-maureen-brainard-barnes/4?_s=PM:CRIME

MBB took a train into NYC

Taking a train into NYC is completely different than taking a train from NYC. If he thought she was taking a train he would know that she was either taking a cab to his house or he would have to pick her up.

 

[dcgrumpy]

Seeing he said he grabbed her, he later stated in an article is was by the back of head...google....it's been stated by more than me.

What about the rest of the info? Pretty accurate? Not pulling any fasties, honest.

To me goes with the flow....if you feel comfortable about grabbing her than thats okay for you. I believe what I read.

JB GRABBED SG by the back....that was a total off gaurd move to say the least IMO. I feel there is no big discrepancy. Joesph Aggressed on SG which opted a 911 call fearing for her life. Outing herself & possibly outing the driver...that was fear Driven 23 minutes, no doubt in my mind, rob Sax & many others....
Everyone has there opinion. You have the jist which is pretty overwhelming critical as to what happened to Shannan Gilbert @ Joseph Brewers...to wind up Dead...Something, gave many facts

I did Google it and all I found was your post and the story I quoted. Can you share a link?