BSL - Evidentiary Hearing, Friday, Aug 17, 2012, 10:00 A.M.

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How did he get the gun? Stolen? Given to him? Where is the charge of possession of a firearm by a convicted felon? And a SO that!
 
I don't think justice in itself can ever be served in regards to Mickey.

But at least we have a start to what he is capable of, and hopefully will provide more closure.
 
I believe we are all angry no matter which side of the lens we're viewing from. Anger is a positive reaction to the horrific events we've learned of today when properly focused. So please take a deep breath, everyone. It's not the person sitting on the other side of the computer screen who is deserving of our wrath.
 
Hey guys, just a gentle remonstrance here: I see recurring speculative opinions that Mickey was sexually assaulted. I would suggest that not one letter of one word in any evidence yet released has said that, that it's pure speculation, that it's not productive to any specific end, and also maybe a tad insensitive.

Until I see an official statement to that effect, I myself intend to let her keep her dignity in fighting back, and will speculate no further, keeping in mind "towerguy"''s hint in his post the other night.

Sorry to sound like a scold, but I would like to leave this brave young lady her dignity.

Thank you!! That's what I choose to believe due to facts stated!! And he was trying to save his behind, IMO, he wasn't in any kind of a mood after the "whuppin" Mighty Mick put on him!! :woohoo:

R.I.P. angel!! :heartbeat::heartbeat::heartbeat:
 
I'm glad she did what she did to him....but the whole reason she was kidnapped in the first place was because he is a terrible person with an evil mind. She fought hard to save her life......but she is not here and he is. To tell everyone that she kept hurting him just irked me in some way. She was trying to stay alive..he was trying to control and rape her. I know it all had to come out ....but why did he have to hit her bike in the first place. They should try asking him that????

He's so concerned about his wounds & what she inflicted on him because he's so concerned about himself. That's how sociopaths/psychopaths generally are. Me, me, me (or I, I, I). I was stabbed by her. I was sprayed with mace. I almost had my finger cut off. I had to go home and nurse and clean my wounds. He even tries to make her death all about him.

But you're right it all goes back to "I want that girl on the bike" and swerving into the turning lane to go after her.

Brandon is the only person concerned about Brandon. Everyone else in Acadiana and everyone here at WS, though, is concerned with MICKEY. That's why everyone came together to try to find her and seek justice for her. For Brandon it may be about Brandon (right down to the plea deal to save his life) but for everyone else it's all about Mighty Mickey!
 
i am very glad for the work of the prosecution and whoever else had a hand in getting BSL to confess, possibly even the defense - according to Clay's statements made today.

however, i don't find the "Statement in Support of Plea" very eloquent. I was not going to comment on that until I ran across the use of the word "enticed". Ahhhh! It is VERY hard for me to "forgive" their use of that word.

C'mon people, she did not get into that truck willingly!! Everything we know about her speaks exactly the opposite quite loudly!! Even before knowing all of the details, I didn't think that she would have gone into that vehicle willingly. No smart, strong willed Cajun woman would. Even at gunpoint and or knifepoint, I don't think she would have gone in. I think he physically forced her in kicking and screaming.

I know that I would not have gone in at gunpoint. No way! They teach you these things. NEVER GET IN! NO MATTER WHAT HE THREATENS!! She knew that.

I just wanted to clear that up because as a mother, it would piss me off to have people thinking that she was "enticed". Ughhhh! I am so glad Nancy was able to clear that up on the air. Still, I want to further emphasize it.

:rant:
IMHO, it was just a poor choice of words. I don't think anyone thinks she was "enticed". It's a sad world today for us. This sadness is repeated the world over every single day. Hatred, resentment, revenge fills the soul with venom.

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Where is the Love?
 
I think it's important/helpful for some to know what I felt/feel, and how Mickey fits into that.

I took off work today to be at the courthouse. I was anxious and nervous beyond belief. I'm not a very social person, very shy and of few words. I went there by myself and not knowing where I was going. I think I faked it pretty well. But, I felt compelled to go. I can't explain why, but I know some of you who couldn't go feel the same way. For some reason, I just felt like it was the right thing to do.

Having said that, upon entering the elevator in the parking garage, there was a man in a car facing the elevators. He was talking on the phone. We were the only ones there. Did I feel silly for being nervous? Yes. Could I help it? No. He did nothing to me except be the only other person in my vicinity.

When the elevator doors opened and I stepped out, I was again alone, this time with a man walking to the exit as I was. I felt the same amount of anxiety and nervousness as I did a couple of floors up.

As I left the courthouse, I walked along the sidewalk, watching the family give their interviews to the media and felt crushed for them again. I crossed the street to the parking garage (I so could have circumvented all of this if I had known where I was and where I was going), and walked alone again, to the elevator. I had my keys in my hand the whole time, ready to unlock, dive in, and drive off.

In my nervousness, I couldn't remember which level I parked on, and embarassingly, chose every one except the last one, where I was. I stepped out, alone and with my keys in my hand and headed to my car. I must have unlocked it a thousand times before I got there, hit the panic button, and then got in and locked it from the inside.

You never know when something will happen, and I like to think that because of Mickey, I am hyper-sensitive to my surroundings now.

God Bless you sweet girl. I cannot fathom the fear you experienced while fighting for your life. Much love. Much much much love.
I am so sorry you felt that way today. I know that this has changed many of us. I wish I could heal all the wounds brought on by the despicable crimes committed in all parts of world. It's a say day when we can't go about our daily lives without feeling uncomfortable or worrying that we could be next. My heart goes out to you.
 
A little tense, are we?

Someone wanted to affix a "Lafayette" label to him. I merely suggested that he was not from Lafayette, but rather from somewhere else. And as such, if a town name is to be affixed to him, it should be his hometown. If you have a better suggestion, I'd certainly love to hear it.


Hey, Houdat, I saw the "Lafayette" post and almost said something, but let it pass because it wasn't a big deal, and because I realized it would start a fight. People are protective of their hometowns - always.

The big deal is that the <modsnip> is in Angola tonight and his DWT days are over.
 
I don't know where you are from HouDat, but I do want you to know that there are many, many fine people who live in Church Point. People who were just as shocked as others that someone they knew and from their midst was responsible for such atrocities. There are families much like the ones who are your neighbors - hard working people whose wishes for their children, families, communities are nothing but honest and honorable. I am from Church Point and I can tell you that even many of BSL's family members are good people. I know that BSL has confessed to committing these horrible crimes, but I see a lot of anger, hatefulness and bitterness toward an individual most of you will never know, or whose family members you will never know. Brandon will get "his" but I just can't understand why so many people are filling their hearts with such venon. It doesn't seem very Christian to me. I understand fear and concern about the safety of those we love and I understand why people are repulsed. I will tell you that BSL's mother would never wish for any of you the same you are wishing for her son, even if your children might be accused and convicted of the same one day. She is a loving person who practices Christianity. That I know for sure. Can all of you say the same?

God Bless You All. Now what will many of you do now that Micky and Lisa's murderer is in jail? Will you still be sleuths still speculating? Or will you do something to make your families and communities safer?

"I have a lot to say but I won't say it here."...Jane Fonda upon accepting her Oscar

..."Go gently my children, your brother is not far behind"...

Awe, jarabie...I felt the same way you did when you read HouDat's post. I knew this day would come...Church Point, BSL, Church Point, BSL...Forever linked. It kinda p's you off to think of it that way. Trust me, please, I know.
But, I defend HouDat, in that he clarified BSL's hometown...and rightfully so. As a CP native, I felt no offense to its people. I guess 'turd' was un-called for, but I've called him much worse. I judge BSL by his actions, and his actions alone.
As a newbie here at this site...I lurked and lurked silently. Amazed at the thoughtful responses of God, Christianity, love of fellow man. Ok, I can hang here! Although the venom is spewed (equally by yours truly), I feel, IMO, the sleuthin should continue. For continued justice...
 
Ot- john walsh is doing a piece on the impact of social networking on missing people called cybertracking... Up next. Americas most wanted- Lifetime
 
I wish I could have been there in the courtroom to see this murderous villain, but from the short video and stills I've seen so far, 'BS' Lavergne looks very unremarkable - no horns on his head of course - but his ordinary, dumpy, seemingly harmless appearance betrays his evil deeds. I can see now that he must have felt slightly inferior, not very attractive to women, and obviously felt he had to either pay an escort for sex, or *take* a woman at gunpoint or knifepoint. This makes me think his relationship with his girlfriend was indeed over, and so he felt he had no other options in his warped mind. Can anyone give us more description of his manner and behavior today in court please?


Gary B said that BSL thought quite highly of himself - like he was a gift to women.

also, i'm thinking that he put the knife down to drive. how scary those 40 minutes "playing possum" must have been for Mickey.

so he went back to Pinseclair approx 24 hours after the kidnapping? if he was at ochsner at 11pm then he must have made it back to bury her around 2 or 3??
 
Respectfully snipped by me.

IF he killed Ali, I hope there's more evidence than two witnesses seeing her talking to a guy in a truck with a partial license plate # matching BSL's vehicle at the time to link him to it. You can't charge him with kidnapping/murder just for being in the area or stopping his truck & talking to Ali (although when you combine it with his previous crimes, we all know that 1+1=2 if he was indeed stopped in his vehicle talking to her, but I just don't think it alone is enough to bring charges).
......snipped by me.......

I hope IF he is responsible for Ali's death, there's a ton of evidence LE is just now on to aside from the truck with matching partial plates being in the area. Or he confesses.

I am really praying for a quick closure to any other murders BSL has been involved in. Hopefully, evidence is just going to roll in.

I was actually wondering why he didn't leave her in the cane field where he initially brought her body to dispose of it?? He assumed at that point she was dead according to his statement. She regains conscious while in the cane field, he shoots her, then decides at that point to drive her to a different location :waitasec:. I guess in the end it didn't really matter where he left her but it seems like quite a risk he was taking to continue driving around with her body. I get the impression he's not too bright for some reason.

One thing i think is that he was afraid to leave her because of the gunshot wound. He may have thought the bullet could be traced back to him.

What I hope is that Mighty Mickey scared him so badly that he couldn't think rationally.

I don't know where you are from HouDat, but I do want you to know that there are many, many fine people who live in Church Point. People who were just as shocked as others that someone they knew and from their midst was responsible for such atrocities. There are families much like the ones who are your neighbors - hard working people whose wishes for their children, families, communities are nothing but honest and honorable. I am from Church Point and I can tell you that even many of BSL's family members are good people. I know that BSL has confessed to committing these
horrible crimes, but I see a lot of anger, hatefulness and bitterness toward an individual most of you will never know, or whose family members you will never know. Brandon will get "his" but I just can't understand why so many people are filling their hearts with such venon. It doesn't seem very Christian to me. I understand fear and concern about the safety of those we love and I understand why people are repulsed. I will tell you that BSL's mother would never wish for any of you the same you are wishing for her son, even if your
children might be accused and convicted of the same one day. She is a loving person who practices Christianity. That I know for sure. Can all of you say the same?

God Bless You All. Now what will many of you do now that Micky and Lisa's murderer is in jail? Will you still be sleuths still speculating? Or will you do something to make your families and communities safer?

"I have a lot to say but I won't say it here."...Jane Fonda upon accepting her Oscar

..."Go gently my children, your brother is not far behind"...

He was just correcting where Brandon came from. I don't think he meant to disrespect Church Point, just saying that was his home town, not Lafayette.

As far as Brandon's momma, many of us have been praying for her for quite awhile. She didn't ask for or deserve what she has been dragged into. I am a mother of a son who was unjustly accused of a crime, not as serious as this, and my son was eventually proven to have not been involved, but I remember hearing people trash him and wish for evil to befall him. There were days when holding my head up was an impossible task. I was terrified for my son, terrified for his brothers who had to walk out of this house every day when I could hide in here. So I feel for Cynthia, I know how it feels to love your son desperately and to have others hate him.

She is blessed to still have her son living. Two other families aren't so lucky. I am not one calling for public hangings or wishing that Brandon will be abused or murdered by other prisoners. But I understand that emotions are running really high right now, because of our love for Mickey.
 
Hey guys, just a gentle remonstrance here: I see recurring speculative opinions that Mickey was sexually assaulted. I would suggest that not one letter of one word in any evidence yet released has said that, that it's pure speculation, that it's not productive to any specific end, and also maybe a tad insensitive.

Until I see an official statement to that effect, I myself intend to let her keep her dignity in fighting back, and will speculate no further, keeping in mind "towerguy"''s hint in his post the other night.

Sorry to sound like a scold, but I would like to leave this brave young lady her dignity.

He was a tier 3 RSO. To think this did not occur or was his primary motive is naive.

Throughout the plea deal agreement I see him blaming Lisa Pate for stealing not just his truck keys to get away, but his wallet. In BSL's version, which is the only one we will get, I simply can't think of any other reason for him to want to "keep her there" and "not let her leave".

In Mickey Shunick's case, once again he placed the blame on Mickey as she stabbed him therefore he had to stab her back "due to life threatening injuries".

He could not get a pulse but she "suddenly sat up" after being stabbed so he had to "shoot her".

The only thing I see through out the document is his reasoning and his version. I can guarantee that if Lisa Pate or Mickey Shunick were alive their versions would be much different.
 
At least, IMHO, it's a Blessing for Mickey's and Lisa's loved ones that this case didn't have to be dragged on and on in the form of trial proceedings!

On another note, a thought just occured to me...I wonder if Mickey had to attack BSL through his clothing or not...that could be one of the reasons why his stab wounds were not ultimately fatal! That and the fact that she must have been hurting from the spill from her bike, and then the loss of blood after having been stabbed multiple times by this enraged, intolerant being, would have left her weak!

It is a testament to 'Mighty Mick's' Bright and Strong Spirit that she was able to inflict the damages to BSL that she so rightfully did!

All IMHO
 
Awe, jarabie...I felt the same way you did when you read HouDat's post. I knew this day would come...Church Point, BSL, Church Point, BSL...Forever linked. It kinda p's you off to think of it that way. Trust me, please, I know.
But, I defend HouDat, in that he clarified BSL's hometown...and rightfully so. As a CP native, I felt no offense to its people. I guess 'turd' was un-called for, but I've called him much worse. I judge BSL by his actions, and his actions alone.
As a newbie here at this site...I lurked and lurked silently. Amazed at the thoughtful responses of God, Christianity, love of fellow man. Ok, I can hang here! Although the venom is spewed (equally by yours truly), I feel, IMO, the sleuthin should continue. For continued justice...

You are from CP? Do you know CBL?
 
Ot- john walsh is doing a piece on the impact of social networking on missing people called cybertracking... Up next. Americas most wanted- Lifetime

WOW! That was uber cool!
 
I just want to apologize if anything I've written today that was offensive or insensitive to you all. That was not my intention. I have been reading a lot about Ted Bundy and other serial killers lately & I brought some of my knowledge about what was done to those victims into this discussion. I mean no disrespect to Mickey or Lisa. I was just being frank (too frank) about what happened to some of those victims and hypothesizing the same could have happened to Mickey and Lisa. I was just stuck on how BSL doesn't cop to any sort of sexual wrong-doing for whatever reasons. I'll stop. I went back and edited & deleted some posts (some posts I went to delete had already disappeared, which is fine).

I respect all of my fellow WSers who have given so much time, love, and prayers for Mickey and I am sorry that I upset anyone.
 
I think I said this before, but I was so shaken by the experience that I never want to enter a courtroom again, for any reason. I don't know what I expected, but when he came out, 5 rows away from me.....contempt for this weasel, this squirrel, this piece of filth. Wearing crocs, no less. Hs only responses were 'ah, yes, sir'..nausea, I hated hearing that voice. Everything, 'ah, yes' a deep, monotonous voice, a vacant affect..he had no spring in his step when he walked in, as he did outside, staring straight ahead, carrying rolled legal size papers. There was something so evil, yet so banal about him.

When the DA read the part about the shooting of Mickey her mother let out an anguished sob, accompanied by the gasps of several women & men. I don't know who was prepared for that, but I wasn't. If I felt drained, I can't ever begin to imagine...

Lisa's family was there as well. Her brother, clearly distraught..how could you not be when the DA reads out the days leading to your sister's death, & how she died.

But the oddest thing I saw was a young, petite, blond deputy who had to criss-cross the courtroom a few times. He didn't even keep his &#8364;£%¥#&@ head up. He stood hunched over, head to the side, swaying every now & then. I doubt that he saw her.

The thing about his phoning the escort service, traveling south-bound on inside lane of University, seeing Mickey, making a swerve to right to track her. I keep stopping & staring at a blinking cursor b/c one word is going in front of the other slowly. That as such a long time, the hour+ to sit though that. No one was allowed to leave once in. The deputy sitting next to me inadvertently turned his phone on. Thankfully before the filth was brought in. It was jarring to hear music, even for a second,when he quickly turned it off & sat on it.

Incredible..
And, no, I don't for a minute believe this is his first rodeo.

Thank you dona and all that did take the time to attend this hearing.

It must of been tough for all that were in there today. I agree this is not his first rodeo and pray that he stays alive long enough to give up whatever else he has done and hopefully bring others home that have been gone for too long now.

All these families need answers!
 
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