CO - Jessica Ridgeway, 10, Westminster, 5 Oct 2012 - #2

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They are searching between her house and where the backpack was found as well as the open spaces to the west of the backpack.

I am probably wrong but I would be looking in the opposite direction of Jessica's home and where her backpack was found as well. My reasoning is that the perp would try to distract attention away from wherever the perp feels is the home base for the crime.
 
Could you expand on this?

I am not sure what you are referring too?

There's a link to Internet predators in a post above. coloradoicac.
There's a bunch of them and probably more today as that's a list from 2008. Two of these creeps found women online who have young daughters and they want to get with them both iykwim. :furious:

Isn't ICAC on this case? Now we know why.
 
Sexual predators of children are highly recidivist, calculating, deflective, manipulative, and very creative. Predators hide behind their masks of normalcy, while honing their skills of deviant behavior with each innocent victim taken. Many possess an uncanny ability of remaining stealth from law enforcement for years or even decades.
The loss of an unsuspecting innocent child to a sexual predator is a nightmare for the parents, and for the entire community.

http://articles.cnn.com/2002-07-24/...uctions-erica-pratt-elizabeth-smart?_s=PM:LAW

A parent's worst nightmare: Are child abductions on the rise?

It's every parent's worst fear: a dangerous stranger snatches their child. However, the vast majority of missing children are not kidnapped at all. They are runaways and throwaways, kids who leave and don't come back or are told not to come back, according to a 1990 study by the U.S. Justice Department. Of the remaining cases that are considered abductions, some 350,000 each year, are committed by family members as part of a custody dispute.

In a country with some 59 million children, abductions by a stranger are perhaps the most terrifying of crimes. But they are also the rarest. There are about 114,600 such stranger abductions attempted each year, and about 3,200 to 4,600 or around 4 percent, are successful, according to the study.

Of those, an even smaller fraction, about 200 to 300, are what the FBI calls "stereotypical" kidnappings, where a child is gone overnight, transported over some distance, intended to be kept by the perpetrator or even killed. These incidents make up far less than 1 percent of the total stranger abductions.


http://safety.more4kids.info/14/child-predators/

Child Predators: Where They Lurk

By Alan and Shonna Hammond

Child predators gain access to children in many ways. Where there are children, there are predators.

Child predators crawl from underneath every slimy rock imaginable. They manipulate children and adults alike. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the Polly Klaas Foundation are excellent places, full of all manner of information, to begin your education and prevent your child, and other children, from abuse.
 
my point exactly....they are talking in circles/squares or whatever

No POI
No Family members
No Random adbuctor

that leaves

Known abductor
family friends, etc...

How can there be a known abductor without there being a POI?
 
What time does Wilt Elementary School let out in the afternoon?

"The school started calling her mother Sarah Ridgeway at 10 a.m. to say Jessica never arrived, but her mother, a night-shift worker who sleeps during the day, didn't get the message until 4:30 that afternoon."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20637159,00.html

Just wondering what time Jessica usually walked home from school. Would mom still be asleep then? Anyway, so glad to see People Magazine reporting on Jessica.

Night all, off to bed.
 
Guys - let's lay off the "talking to media" and any family insinuations for now. If that changes, we will revisit the issue.

Thanks,

Salem
 
I about had a fit reading this in the Denver Post! I was puzzling why someone would put a backpack in such a residential neighborhood. I figured it was a cat and mouse game, now I'm not sure just what the message is, but I think it has everything to do with whose house was "feet away"!
The intersection where the backpack was found is only a few feet away from the home where Stephanie Rochester killed her 6-month-old son, Rylan, in June 2010 by placing blankets and a plastic bag over his head.

Read more: Search for missing girl Jessica Ridgeway moves to Superior with backpack discovery - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...ves-superior-backpack-discovery#ixzz28mYk2d00
Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...ca-ridgeway-moves-superior-backpack-discovery
SBM

ETA OKay, I see Saba already noted this in the last thread. I should have known someone else would have spotted that. Here's the thread on Stephanie Rochester. This story was pretty big in Boulder-not huge like JBR, but it was a hot topic in the Camera, that's for sure.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106219&highlight=stephanie+rochester
 
I about had a fit reading this in the Denver Post! I was puzzling why someone would put a backpack in such a residential neighborhood. I figured it was a cat and mouse game, now I'm not sure just what the message is, but I think it has everything to do with whose house was "feet away"!
The intersection where the backpack was found is only a few feet away from the home where Stephanie Rochester killed her 6-month-old son, Rylan, in June 2010 by placing blankets and a plastic bag over his head.

Read more: Search for missing girl Jessica Ridgeway moves to Superior with backpack discovery - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...ves-superior-backpack-discovery#ixzz28mYk2d00
Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_2...ca-ridgeway-moves-superior-backpack-discovery
SBM

ETA OKay, I see Saba already noted this in the last thread. I should have known someone else would have spotted that. Here's the thread on Stephanie Rochester. This story was pretty big in Boulder-not huge like JBR, but it was a hot topic in the Camera, that's for sure.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106219&highlight=stephanie+rochester

What a tragic story, spamelope. and a travesty of justice, imo...

PDF Arrest Warant for Stephanie Lynn Rochester
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2010/0608/20100608_014044_Affadavit.PDF
 
my point exactly....they are talking in circles/squares or whatever

No POI
No Family members
No Random adbuctor

that leaves

Known abductor
family friends, etc...
If a known abductor or a family friend took Jessica, they would be a poi by LEs standards, yes? I think whoever made that comment was talking in circles. Lol
 
I have a bad, bad feeling about that backpack being put in a place where is would be easily found. It is almost like a taunt. I also think it was meant to throw police off.

maybe schools will rethink their process after this horrible incident.

I realize schools and parents are all busy, but for safety sake, a call back from a parent by a certain time, a second phone call or text message, not sure what would work, but something...

This may not be practical in this day and age, but when our sons were in grade school parent volunteers, who lived close to the school, and who walked over with walking kids, stayed at the school for an hour and phoned the parents of any child who was not in class.

Yes, these were the days when more parents were at home, but fewer cell phones, a few answering machines or voicemail, mostly land line phones. As parents, we were responsible for phoning the school before the first bell rang, to inform the school which of our children would not be in attendance that day. And the volunteers at the school would phone us if any of our kids were not in class.

With so many cell phones, smart phones, and texting, it may be even easier now for the school and parents to be in touch. Maybe the idea of parent volunteers spending an hour checking whose parents phoned in, and then phoning the parents whose children were absent may be cosidered? It worked for us back then.
 
Denverpost.com/news/ci_21728635/cops-turn-eye-DNA

Cops Turn Eye to DNA
Representatives from 12agencies searched for Jessica
DNA from family was taken to compare to DNA possibly found on the backpack.
People that found bag left home around 6:45 pm Saturday evenibg and the bag wasn't there.
When they returned home at 1am Sunday, they saw the bag.
 
Hi and welcome to WS first time poster!
That's specific information. You may want to edit out the last name - just use the initial. Did you call this research into the tip line? If not, are you willing to do so? Seems that LE should check this info out. Thanks.

Thanks for the info! Just a quick update, Westminster was contacted about the info a while ago and they should be sharing with Arvada PD.
 
Denverpost.com/news/ci_21728635/cops-turn-eye-DNA

Cops Turn Eye to DNA
Representatives from 12agencies searched for Jessica
DNA from family was taken to compare to DNA possibly found on the backpack.
People that found bag left home around 6:45 pm Saturday evenibg and the bag wasn't there.
When they returned home at 1am Sunday, they saw the bag.
BBM

"Crossing my fingers that the unknown suspect's dna is in the FBI CODIS database"..


In 1988 Colorado became the first state to require some criminals—in this case sex offenders—to provide a DNA sample to law enforcement ..

http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellit...goBlobs&blobwhere=1251619440837&ssbinary=true

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/codis/familial-searching

FBI — Familial Searching
www.fbi.gov › About Us › Laboratory Services › CODISFamilial searching is an additional search of a law enforcement DNA ... As of June 2011, California, Colorado, Texas and Virginia perform familial searching.
 
BBM

"Crossing my fingers that the unknown suspect's dna is in the FBI CODIS database"..


In 1988 Colorado became the first state to require some criminals—in this case sex offenders—to provide a DNA sample to law enforcement ..

http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellit...goBlobs&blobwhere=1251619440837&ssbinary=true

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/codis/familial-searching

FBI — Familial Searching
www.fbi.gov › About Us › Laboratory Services › CODISFamilial searching is an additional search of a law enforcement DNA ... As of June 2011, California, Colorado, Texas and Virginia perform familial searching.
That gives me a little more hope Foxfire.
 
Hi. I don't come around often anymore. I was more active on the Lauren Spierer thread. I have been lurking here and hope this poor girl is found alive and well! I am wondering if someone could please explain what you mean about "the basement" and "Upstairs" please. Thank you.


Gabby, I was just thinking the same thing and I don't know what the basement means either. Just sayin'
:what:
 
‘America’s Most Wanted,’ other organizations join search for Jessica Ridgeway


The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children says nearly 800,000 children are reported missing each year.

Only about 115 are victims of stranger kidnappings. But they say the first few hours and days are critical.

post snipped respectfully - BBMi

If those numbers are correct (and I'm not disagreeing) but that means only .0001
are stranger kidnappings. I don't know if that also means stranger abductions, but I would think so.

With those #s, that mean more than likely Jessica knows the person that has her....

I am not a mathmetician....so if I did that wrong, I'm sorry....
I believe that the 800,000 missing children includes runaways, lost kids, those who turn up soon after being reported missing (no abduction, just not where they were expected to be, etc.), and those taken in custody disputes. I would guess that the percentage of abductions (other than by non-custodial parents) by strangers is much higher than it sounds. In this case, however, I'm more inclined to think it wasn't a total stranger, but more likely a neighbor or friend of one, or someone else she has been somewhat familiar with.

I'm not trying to imply or suggest anything but it's been bugging me all day. Has anyone noticed that Jessica and Elizabeth Collins look similar? Especially, in the eyes and smile.

That was one of the first things I thought when I saw the picture of her without her glasses.
 
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