SIDEBAR #11- Arias/Alexander forum

[marlap]

The actual mortality rate, it if ever becomes epidemic will be much, much lower. First of all, supportive care will be better and administered earlier if the medical professionals are aware of what they are dealing with. Also, in general most viruses evolve to become less pathogenic, relatively quickly.
And of course, as you said, we have no idea of how many actual cases there are, just a few bad ones so far.

Unfortunately, until a virus gets really hot politically, like HIV did, or really pandemic, like flu, drug companies don't spend hardly any effort trying to come up with treatments or cure. The research and development cost of these types of drugs is way more expensive than the amount of profit. So, sorry Shelby, it'll be awhile yet before someone starts a big effort to come up with a novel drug for it. For now, they will keep trying the drugs that work on other things, and hope to find a treatment/supportive care regimen that is effective.

My job was way cool when I worked on HIV, and I really felt useful. I actually had a big part in the team that worked on one of the best, to this day, drug that is out there. Now, I work as a routine molecular biologist cause not many jobs in virology are out there any more

That's so cool that you were so instrumental in working on good treatments for AIDS...

What was the lowest mortality rate of Spanish flu?

ETA...nevermind, I just looked it up...

 

[dani]

When he took the fifth, it had nothing to do with the case. He had a woman in his car and he had to explain to his girlfriend first why he was with her. :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

You're just messin' with us, right? The part about Gus having a girlfriend? :gasp:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Ma02FlZZI"]Desperation lyrics by Miranda Lambert - YouTube[/ame]

 

[carnnell]

Dedicate to Arias: "It is Over now" "Just a Dream"

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3XfIyfYmoI"]Roxette - It must have been love(legendado) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[banzai]

I love Jane Birkin, she's fab!

Did you ever see Evil Under the Sun with Peter Ustinov as Poirot? She was in that.

Oh my, yes, wow, saw that many moons ago.

Me thinks that song is very much suited to the book 50 Shades of Grey,

 

[elmomom]

That's so cool that you were so instrumental in working on good treatments for AIDS...

What was the lowest mortality rate of Spanish flu?

I honestly don't know. It was a strange flu pandemic, it had two waves, mostly because if WWI I think... I read a really good book about it a long time ago and have forgotten most of what I read. But I do know that the mortality rate for the same exact flu if it were to hit now, would be much lower. Our supportive case has gotten much better. There are numerous effective to partially effective drugs out there. And, a vaccine could be produced in enough quantity in a very short amount of time to actually stop the epidemic in nits tracks.
Same would be true for "bird flu".
Currently, flu vaccines are made in eggs, and it is a slow, laborious method. Most other virus vaccines are made in cell cultures, not eggs. The flu vaccine could be made much quicker and in much larger quantities in cultured cells, and if there were an emergency like a bird flu pandemic, this would most likely happen. The reason the routine flu vaccine is still made in eggs is that no drug company wants to go through the expense of doing all the clinical trials and other tests to get the new method approved by the FDA, since the egg grown one works, and the tests to get the newer one approved would cost them many millions. But believe me, if we had a real bird flu pandemic break out, a cell culture grown bird flu vaccine would be on the market in two months.

 

[marlap]

I honestly don't know. It was a strange flu pandemic, it had two waves, mostly because if WWI I think... I read a really good book about it a long time ago and have forgotten most of what I read. But I do know that the mortality rate for the same exact flu if it were to hit now, would be much lower. Our supportive case has gotten much better. There are numerous effective to partially effective drugs out there. And, a vaccine could be produced in enough quantity in a very short amount of time to actually stop the epidemic in nits tracks.
Same would be true for "bird flu".
Currently, flu vaccines are made in eggs, and it is a slow, laborious method. Most other virus vaccines are made in cell cultures, not eggs. The flu vaccine could be made much quicker and in much larger quantities in cultured cells, and if there were an emergency like a bird flu pandemic, this would most likely happen. The reason the routine flu vaccine is still made in eggs is that no drug company wants to go through the expense of doing all the clinical trials and other tests to get the new method approved by the FDA, since the egg grown one works, and the tests to get the newer one approved would cost them many millions. But believe me, if we had a real bird flu pandemic break out, a cell culture grown bird flu vaccine would be on the market in two months.

That's good news that we'd have a vaccine so quickly...

 

[katiecoolady]

Coffee's ready!

I love that!

 

[banzai]

Soul soothing, dedicated to the Alexander family


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbhBV_UxRdU&feature=fvsr"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbhBV_UxRdU&feature=fvsr[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24TaTGljBAE&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24TaTGljBAE&feature=related[/ame]

 

[marlap]

Soul soothing, dedicated to the Alexander family


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbhBV_UxRdU&feature=fvsr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24TaTGljBAE&feature=related

Those are gorgeous...

 

[marlap]

Opps...hope I didn't scare everyone off with my virus talk...

Here's some David Bowie to make up for it!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTYvjrM6djo"]David Bowie - Blue Jean - YouTube[/ame]

 

[carnnell]

To the Alexander Family and all those who have lost love ones to violence

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xdlsu4sCaU"]Celine Dion & Andrea Bocelli - The Prayer (Live In Boston Taking Chances Tour 2008) 720p HDTV - YouTube[/ame]

 

[carnnell]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnztMhtUF6o"]Josh Groban - You Raise Me Up [Official Music Video] - YouTube[/ame]

 

[banzai]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGaC2vGZV-E"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGaC2vGZV-E[/ame]

 

[carnnell]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGLSk3AVcUU"]Josh Groban - You Are Loved (Don't Give Up) [Official Music Video] - YouTube[/ame]

 

[banzai]

the original

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OJIUuyXkGs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OJIUuyXkGs[/ame]

Céline's version

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZsWRjcedE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cZsWRjcedE[/ame]

 

[banzai]

ahhhhhh :fence:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deeBQZ8Aklc&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deeBQZ8Aklc&feature=related[/ame]

 

[katiecoolady]

Not a huge rap fan yet one of my favorite all time records is this rap/jazz fusion called Jazzamatazz by the wonderfully talented dearly departed Guru. He hooks up with French rapper MC Solaar here so I dedicate this to my little French girl marlap.

http://youtu.be/3lKCS1ANpmo

 

[banzai]

on this note...i gotta run...laters peeps :rockon:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuML414hiVU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuML414hiVU[/ame]

 

[marlap]

Not a huge rap fan yet one of my favorite all time records is this rap/jazz fusion called Jazzamatazz by the wonderfully talented dearly departed Guru. He hooks up with French rapper MC Solaar here so I dedicate this to my little French girl marlap.

http://youtu.be/3lKCS1ANpmo

Thanks KCL..I love that...

He also did La Belle and Le Bad Boy, which is in the scene where Carrie finds her necklace in the bottom of her purse and Big is on his way to Paris to get her...


MC Solaar with Beyonce...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuCXrbmFClw"]Mc Solaar feat. Beyonce - La Belle Et Le Bad Boy - YouTube[/ame]

 

[gauntlet]

A few insights for what life is going to be like for the CM. If I was her family, I wonder how I'd feel...

JA - Alpha Girl or Punked The comments at the bottom of this are well worth a read too.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-0MMXqVgc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR-0MMXqVgc[/ame]

I've changed the rest to just links....


JA Suicide Watch - playing with fire. I didn't watch this one....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX4ryQjUaFE

JA vs Correction Officers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiz7bPyHNG0

Transport of a DR prisoner - very detailed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mHfUZsc0X8

Putting Perspective of Solitary Confinement - Good or Bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aPCVNI-iwc

New House Rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc3jpSdJcpM