GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #11

[ArianeEmory]

This would be true if they were chatting/typing but what I'm talking about is talking.

My middle son is old enough to play some war games and there are MANY people talking at once.

My belief is that this is a loop hole.

They're all connecting to centralized chat (and yes I mean voice) servers, from IP addresses that are all logged. It's all still data packets, it's not like an old-school party line.

It's not as easy as a text chat log or looking at your cellphone bill, but those connections are absolutely logged.

 

[Dora the Explorer]

I'd be nervous as heck if I were his accomplice and his condition were already upgraded to "serious." I'd wonder if he were ratting me out and if I needed to give myself up to hopefully get a lighter sentence. Maybe he IS dead (I hope).

 

[Filly]

Actually, I don't think that's a bad suggestion at all since it appears (on FB) and according to another poster local to the area that he has rapidly gone downhill in the past year, dramatic change in appearance, etc..... Methadone apparently can cause weight gain and edema:

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It just got me that he used that word. The convo was one sided, but from what I garnered (guessed) was maybe he'd been in a rehab and he was being chastised for smoking weed and drinking whilst maybe on methadone. I'm probably wrong.

Going downhill while on methadone usually comes with benzo use. People on the program who want to get high with their methadone take alot of Xanax, and smoke up. Unfortunately I see way too much of all this so maybe I read the "done" and jumped on it.

Oh yes, yes. I know people mostly women who have gained a ton of weight on methadone. Then there's people that don't at all. Boggles the mind when they're using heroin they're eating all kinds of sweets and are skinny as rails.

 

[IBsleuthin]

Omgosh IB....l that is scary!
What all was TH into?

Well...we know he was into garden hoses.


We know he admitted to police that he had sex with men.


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................................think impressionable teen....mixed up doesn't quite know what he wants in life and then meets TH......................

 

[IBsleuthin]

It just got me that he used that word. The convo was one sided, but from what I garnered (guessed) was maybe he'd been in a rehab and he was being chastised for smoking weed and drinking whilst maybe on methadone. I'm probably wrong.

Going downhill while on methadone usually comes with benzo use. People on the program who want to get high with their methadone take alot of Xanax, and smoke up. Unfortunately I see way too much of all this so maybe I read the "done" and jumped on it.

Oh yes, yes. I know people mostly women who have gained a ton of weight on methadone. Then there's people that don't at all. Boggles the mind when they're using heroin they're eating all kinds of sweets and are skinny as rails.

What do you make of the smoke in the photos? Does that look like pot smoke to you or does it look like meth? (Not Methadone but the other meth).

 

[Filly]

Think MORE than weed.


Think homosexual encounters of the first kind.


I can see this happening and then TH using it to blackmail the individual into doing nearly anything he wanted.

The fear of being 'found out' at that age is terrifying.

We're on the same page, IB. I thought that the begining of this thread only I thought it the other way. I thought they were much older men.

Your way makes more sense. Other young guys who would worry what people thought. OR he's underage. What if he was going to blackmail someone much older? Then again he ain't that bright I don't think.

Oh no doubt there's other photos somewhere.

 

[4life]

Just wanted to introduce myself. AG story brought me
to this forum. The deviant behaviors in
the world today immobilize me in so
many ways. I'm sorry to meet you all
under the circumstances however
it is good to see so many people trying
in some small way to make a difference
in this world.

 

[IBsleuthin]

They're all connecting to centralized chat (and yes I mean voice) servers, from IP addresses that are all logged. It's all still data packets, it's not like an old-school party line.

It's not as easy as a text chat log or looking at your cellphone bill, but those connections are absolutely logged.

So, when they are talking on their microphones does this information get converted to digitalization?

Must be huh?

My son just said that there IS some kind of monitor because if someone on there starts swearing or getting mad they will get booted.

So this made us think that perhaps the speech part of it was digitalized and then certain words are flagged?

It's ALLLL new to me. I still have two cans and a long string just in case there is a zombie apocalypse.

 

[mck16]

What do you make of the smoke in the photos? Does that look like pot smoke to you or does it look like meth? (Not Methadone but the other meth).

METH!! jmo

 

[Filly]

What do you make of the smoke in the photos? Does that look like pot smoke to you or does it look like meth? (Not Methadone but the other meth).

That's weed. I'm no expert as I don't know what meth smoke looks like, but meth users don't got no time for taking pictures. Plus they'd be up and running looking for more meth.

Naw, that murderer is laid back in those photos. Plus I think he has his ADD meds. No need for meth. Meth addicts would actually get stuff done. He's slow. Then again that's JMO. Those pipes too shown and talked about aren't meth pipes.

 

[IBsleuthin]

Just wanted to introduce myself. AG story brought me
to this forum. The deviant behaviors in
the world today immobilize me in so
many ways. I'm sorry to meet you all
under the circumstances however
it is good to see so many people trying
in some small way to make a difference
in this world.

:seeya: WELCOME!

 

[manzana]

Well...we know he was into garden hoses.

I think you have that in reverse!

 

[kkdj]

Well...we know he was into garden hoses.


We know he admitted to police that he had sex with men.


...


...


................................think impressionable teen....mixed up doesn't quite know what he wants in life and then meets TH......................

Was he filming anymore than the hose in his anus?

 

[Filly]

METH!! jmo

That'd be one big rock in that one picture he put up on that FB. Then again I'm old and meth from my day was snorted or IV. Murdering a baby? That'd be more meth though.

 

[Marnie]

It just got me that he used that word. The convo was one sided, but from what I garnered (guessed) was maybe he'd been in a rehab and he was being chastised for smoking weed and drinking whilst maybe on methadone. I'm probably wrong.

Going downhill while on methadone usually comes with benzo use. People on the program who want to get high with their methadone take alot of Xanax, and smoke up. Unfortunately I see way too much of all this so maybe I read the "done" and jumped on it.

Oh yes, yes. I know people mostly women who have gained a ton of weight on methadone. Then there's people that don't at all. Boggles the mind when they're using heroin they're eating all kinds of sweets and are skinny as rails.

FWIW Filly, I was watching TH's arrest drama live while it was happening. Went to his FB almost immediately, and his convos WERE one sided back then.

I sleuthed him days before the arrest attempt, and his page was pretty much as it is now....without all the new "hate comments".

I'm sure plenty of his "friends" deleted any comments they made since TH has been outed in the media. He possibly "cleaned up" his FB since the murder and before we learned his identity.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Well...we know he was into garden hoses.


We know he admitted to police that he had sex with men.


...


...


................................think impressionable teen....mixed up doesn't quite know what he wants in life and then meets TH......................

Can you imagine what parents of male teens who live in that neighborhood must be going through??
:gasp:

 

[GingerzMomma]

New story:

“He’s not able to talk,” said Saginaw police spokesman Damon Ing. “I don’t think he’s going to be able to talk anytime soon.”

Reached by phone, Holder’s mother, Kim Holder, said, “Anytime that I say anything, I am misquoted. I’m not saying anything.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...-or-girl-is-upgraded-to-serious-condition.ece

 

[IBsleuthin]

We're on the same page, IB. I thought that the begining of this thread only I thought it the other way. I thought they were much older men.

Your way makes more sense. Other young guys who would worry what people thought. OR he's underage. What if he was going to blackmail someone much older? Then again he ain't that bright I don't think.

Oh no doubt there's other photos somewhere.

There is one face in his list of friends that I just can't get out of my mind. It's a boy about his age and he just looks and poses on his photos like he's so kind and just maybe unsure of 'which way to go'.

So then I looked at his fb page and thought he would certainly be a possibility.

Especially going on TH's history of bullying younger supposedly weaker kids. I could easily see him singling this kid out and abusing him and then turning it all around against him.

We'll see now in the coming days.

I've been really racking my brain trying to think what the FBI is doing right now as it concerns this accomplice.

WHY is it taking so long to track this accomplice down?


Hmmmm... You would think if it's one of his pencil necked friends the FBI would have this done in a day.

 

[mck16]

That'd be one big rock in that one picture he put up on that FB. Then again I'm old and meth from my day was snorted or IV. Murdering a baby? That'd be more meth though.

I have not done meth, but a little pot, and I remember there was not much smoke exhaled with pot. The point was to keep it in your lungs. Plus meth is a chemical smoke. Never seen pot smoke look like that. jmo

 

[IBsleuthin]

The other possibility is of course, one of TH's dealers has someone come over and help him.

Someone totally detached and unattached. Not listed on the fb friend's list. Could be.