It's been such a long haul, and Team Ramsey has managed to take an already difficult case which is really hampered by TOO MUCH evidence and make it worse over time with all the changing stories from the Ramseys.
But here is what I remember about the Bloomies story, from the Ramsey interviews with LE through the years.
LE collected all of JB's panties from her bedroom/bathroom. A detective specifically stated they were all size 4 to 6, though Patsy tried to convince them JB actually wore size 8-10 when questioned in Atlanta about how large those Bloomies found on the child actually were. She even said there wasn't much difference in a pair two sizes too big and those that actually fit the child. [See my avatar for clarification.]
During that interview, Patsy stated variously that: she gave JB the package of Bloomies because the child begged for them; JB opened the package herself; that Patsy put the panties in JB's panty drawer; that JB dressed herself and wore them to the White's party.
Remember that interview was in 2000, with Lin Wood running interference and giving Patsy cues as to when she was getting in trouble, not to mention arguing with the LE interviewers endlessly himself. (Yet another attempt by the Ramseys to pretend to be cooperating when in fact much of the time was spent with LE arguing with Wood so the Ramseys wouldn't in fact answer specific questions or if they finally did, with his argument Wood had given them pre-answer info they needed to dodge any tricky areas.)
So the upshot was that Patsy was inconsistent in her story and that according to her, there was nothing wrong with JB wearing those huge pair of Bloomies, don't we all wear our underwear 2 sizes too large? (I don't because it's completely uncomfortable--try it. I don't believe for one minute a six year old would be able to keep up that underwear or want to try: see my avatar for a model made by poster Jayelles in her demonstration of how preposterous that would be. The "Bloomies model" link at the bottom of my posts goes to the FFJ threads with the full set of photos and details about the demonstration.)
We have Patsy also admitting during that 2000 interview that she knew there was some issue over the underwear found on the child, as well. In point of fact, the detective questioning Patsy about this tells her right then and there that they must ask about this because it's important evidence in the event of an "intruder" arrest.
I mention the specifics of this interview not just because we again see Patsy Ramsey artfully dodging the facts and fudging her answers as she goes to actually make an argument that the Bloomies found on the child were not in any way suspicious, but because she said she already knew in August of 2000 they were an issue and was also told this was important evidence.
Fast forward...or I should say, hit the SLOW MOTION button...to 2002, when Mary Lacy quit hiding her loyalties and went full-on Team Ramsey, working with Lin Wood to take the investigation of this murder out of the BPD's hands and essentially beginning the final steps in burying it forever during her terms as DA.
Not until Dec. 2002 did that package of size 12-14 Bloomies, alleged by Wood to be THE package from which those found on the body came, get handed over as evidence to Mary Lacy, then in charge of the investigation, with some fishy story about how they were located. A story which, I might add, was told a couple of different ways by Team Ramsey shills over time.
Two stories floated at online forums from alleged "inside sources" about how that happened were:
1. The package was found in boxes the Ramseys had stored in Atlanta, packed at the Boulder home during their move to Atlanta by other private detectives who worked for Team Ramsey after the murder. The boxes then sat in a basement or some such in Atlanta until another detective working for Team Ramsey went through them looking for the infamous "Santa Teddy Bear" after the June 1998 interview in which Patsy saw it in a crime scene photo of JB's beds and claimed she'd never seen it before. (A long hunt for that bear followed, involving another intruder theory hawked endlessly that it was brought to entice JB, etc. Turned out it was a gift/award from her last pageant, with a photo of the bear surfacing on an awards table from that pageant. I don't know if the Ramseys ever found it, but if they did, it hasn't been revealed. Ha.)
2. In another version of the story, the package was found when the Ramseys and/or their private detectives were looking for their clothing worn at the White's party and the next day, to hand over to the BPD a year after the murder, so that would be around late '97 or early '98.
[I know this is ridiculous to continue at this point, but after nearly 17 years of this kind of absolute nonsense from Team Ramsey, I am determined to demonstrate the kind of roadblocks put up by the Ramseys in the investigation of their child's murder, though they always claimed they were so cooperative. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK!]
Did I mention FIVE YEARS after the child's death a critical piece of evidence was finally turned over to Ramsey sympathizer Lacy for "investigation"?
That would be TWO YEARS after Patsy Ramsey admitted ON THE RECORD to LE that she already knew it was an issue, was told point blank by LE it was important, critical evidence...and yet never ONCE mentioned she knew where that package was during that interview.
Team Ramsey continued to hold onto that package until Wood managed to stage an unprecedented legal coup in a murder investigation by wresting it away from the only LE agency that should have ever had control over it once it became a murder and not a kidnapping--the BPD.
I must bring up another point, which I find equally damning against the Ramseys to contemplate: why did some obscure, aged private detective, relegated to sifting through god knows how many boxes for various clothing items or a child's toy, notice this package among all that detritus packed by strangers at the Ramsey's cluttered Boulder home?
At that time, most of us had never even heard of the size 12-14 Bloomies. Yet this old man not only "found" the package, but pulled it out of thousands of items in boxes and brought it to Team Ramseys' attention, didn't he?
Did Team Ramsey exclaim, "HEY! IMPORTANT EVIDENCE! IT MIGHT HAVE FINGERPRINTS OR DNA ON IT FROM THAT OLD INTRUDER! LET'S TURN IT OVER FOR PROCESSING IMMEDIATELY!" Um...no. Instead, they hid it from LE for years.
Let me say that again: THEY HID IMPORTANT EVIDENCE FROM LE FOR YEARS.
Why would they do that if they were innocent?
And who actually had the package once it was "found" and where was it during all that time?
And one more important question I asked myself about this chapter, "The Case of the Mysterious Bloomies": Why didn't they just destroy the package or throw it away with the trash in Atlanta if they were so worried about it they hid it from LE investigators all those years? My guess is whoever "found" it--and I think it was "found" by someone who had a history in LE and who somehow knew how important this evidence was--also knew the laws about destroying evidence in a criminal case. My guess is once
he knew it existed, Team Ramsey--including a lot of practicing lawyers and ex-cops--had no choice but to hang onto it with a "promise" they'd turn it over to LE. [:wink: In the next century....]
How does any of this make sense? Well, of course they had an excuse: they didn't trust the BPD! THEY TRUSTED THE INTRUDER WHO MURDERED THEIR CHILD MORE THAN THEY TRUSTED THE BPD! So they waited until they had someone they trusted in charge of the investigation!
Which brings up another question: how did they know THAT would ever happen? What if Lacy hadn't been elected? Or hadn't gone full out Team Ramsey for some reason? Seems like they were mighty sure of the future of the case investigation, didn't it? Is there any LE agency in the country more corrupt that Boulder's? Probably, but please don't tell me about it.
[Hello. How can anyone who has followed the twists and turns of this case so long NOT be a conspiracy theorist? I'm ready for my meds. :hills:]
So what happened to that package of Bloomies? Since the chain of custody would have been a huge issue after being in the Ramsey camp for so long, we have no idea if it was indeed the original package: you could buy packages just like it at Bloomingdale's for years after the murder, which is how forum member Jayelles got those she used in her demonstration.
Still, as is pointed out...there had to be fingerprints on that clear plastic. How about DNA TESTING on the remaining six pairs? Oh, the possibilities! That old intruder might have left so much evidence there!
Well, if he did, we'll never know. Because I pointedly asked Kolar about this very package on an early appearance on Tricia's show and...he had no idea what I was talking about. Never heard of it.
Of course Kolar had no ability to look at every page or report of the 40K page case file: who would in one lifetime? If the package was processed, the reports are buried somewhere in that file.
Unless they were destroyed...or never even produced.
Here's the thing; I'M NOT MAKING ANY OF THIS UP!
It's documented FACT...except for the FICTION, created by Team Ramsey.
Anyhow...what were we talking about? :whoosh:
