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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7

    Enough of baby Jesus for me. Bethlehem can and does have snow and CM just forgot to add that he also suffered from hypothermia lying in a straw-filled manger because, as we are all aware, he was the son of God who sent him down here to suffer for all mankind. She also forgot to mention that he...
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7

    From the Argus coverage to-day. complaint/defence from CM under questioning. "Police will pile up charges and they like to prosecute." So they do! who would have thought.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7

    I don't this this will do her any good at all. And SS will want all of their names!
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7

    CM “I don’t think being in the tent was the wrong thing to do, I think me being exhausted and sitting up at that time was very unfortunate yes.” When questioned “Are you responsible for her death?”, she tearfully responded: “To a degree of course, I feel responsible as her mum for her death but...
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7

    Very revealing. She is talking from a distance like a textbook. The spoken word would be more like, 'When I realised Victoria had died I panicked"
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #7

    I think that's an interesting idea. I think he is the one in charge, and using a 'sort of' gaslighting perhaps. So perhaps feeding her own already held suspicions and fears, by making things go wrong and further alienating her from friends and family would be a good idea. I don't think she needs...
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    I don't think it would have been CM who wanted the money for herself. If it was for someone else that could explain the unpaid rent etc.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    I'm sure that if CM or her defence had requested them to do so, they would have willingly explained how they would like to have saved Victoria's life if given the chance.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    I wonder if this is the reason for having more children, and why they were so loved? The first one increased her income from £50 to £500 per week.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    I think there could be reasons, and that the driver 'didn't see' doesn't seem sufficiently robust for me to think that there was no baby. Since it seems to be a bit of a sketchy event, I would like the recovery driver to have said whether or not he saw a cat in a cat carrier? And whether CM...
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    This has made me think about the age of the placenta/birth, together with the possible (we are told) age of the baby at death. It seems that Victoria could have been born between 14 December '23 and 4 January '24 (the car fire being on 5 Jan). So it seems possible that she was born before the...
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    I was particularly taken with him lying down on the floor then complaining that he was fed up of 'being looked down on'. But unfortunately I can't find him funny at all.
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    UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged, Newborn (found deceased), Bolton Greater Manchester, 5 Jan 2023 #6

    I would have to comb through everything he's said to give examples, but it's struck me from the start that MG speaks a sort of 'officialspeak' that does not scan like normal spoken language. More like repeating buzz words and phrases used by SS and LE etc. and more like the written than the...

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