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I believe that the Defence think he will be found guilty.
The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 8th July - Trial Day 16
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I believe that the Defence think he will be found guilty.
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Thank you thank you thank you to all those who are reposting tweets. Mr Fuller is doing a fantastic job of pulling the evidence together to make a credible story.
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LOVE that you are a tidal/maths nerd. See, nerds sometimes get the last word when we're all grown up
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Marlywings, that is exactly how he was all the days I saw him in court. Especially when the defence was questioning him. Tell tail sign.
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It's school holidays at the moment- I wonder how the girls are keeping occupied. TV has news coverage of the trial all day. It would be hard to keep them totally insulated from the media coverage wouldn't it?
Poor things- all power to the Dickies for their ongoing care.
The girls would most likely be surrounded, supported and occupied in healthy activities/experiences by supportive family and Allison's friends. Their school teachers may also lend a hand given the Trial is happening in the school holidays. I imagine special effort would be made to protect them from the Trial. My opinion only.
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1.01pm: Mr Fuller told the jury dumping Ms Baden-Clay’s body, where it was exposed to the elements, may have increased the likelihood of injuries being impossible to determine and less likely evidence would be found linking her to her killer.
He said pathologist Dr Nathan Milne found that decomposition made it impossible to determine if there were injuries to the face or head.
Mr Fuller asked the jury if they knew anyone who was able to cover their tracks, who was good at hiding things or who had lived a lie.
He said Baden-Clay told the jury he gave his phone to his wife so she could keep track of him.
He said the accused subverted that by deleting the phone calls he did not want his wife to know of.
Mr Fuller asked whether it was possible for the tide to have moved her jumper up and around her neck, trapping her arms within it.
He said she had no identification, no money and no phone.
He said Ms Baden-Clay’s phone was triangulated to within a 4km radius from the backyard of the Baden-Clay home at Brookfield.
Mr Fuller said the injuries found on Ms Baden-Clay were a possible bruise and a chipped tooth
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226980999956
He said pathologist Dr Nathan Milne found that decomposition made it impossible to determine if there were injuries to the face or head.
Mr Fuller asked the jury if they knew anyone who was able to cover their tracks, who was good at hiding things or who had lived a lie.
He said Baden-Clay told the jury he gave his phone to his wife so she could keep track of him.
He said the accused subverted that by deleting the phone calls he did not want his wife to know of.
Mr Fuller asked whether it was possible for the tide to have moved her jumper up and around her neck, trapping her arms within it.
He said she had no identification, no money and no phone.
He said Ms Baden-Clay’s phone was triangulated to within a 4km radius from the backyard of the Baden-Clay home at Brookfield.
Mr Fuller said the injuries found on Ms Baden-Clay were a possible bruise and a chipped tooth
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226980999956
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“They don’t prove she was assaulted, but they are consistent,” he said.
He turned to the issue of sertraline found in Ms Baden-Clay’s body.
He said the blood sample came from the liver and it was highly likely the drug was diffused, raising its concentration.
Mr Fuller said forensic pharmacologist Dr Olaf Drummer was of the view the drug sertraline, sold as Zoloft, did not contribute to her death.
He added Dr Drummer said death from sertraline overdose itself was uncommon and usually only occurred in combination with other drugs.
Mr Fuller said Ms Baden-Clay was a long-term user of Zoloft since first prescribed it in 2003.
He said her dosage had fluctuated between nothing, to 50mg to sometimes 100mg, depending on stressors in her life.
Mr Fuller said there was evidence Ms Baden-Clay visited her GP in September, 2011 and asked for her dosage of Zoloft to be increased to 100mg.
He said that meant she had been on an increased dose of Zoloft for seven months before her death.
Mr Fuller said Ms Baden-Clay had a consultation with her GP where she asked for a prescription of 100mg of Zoloft to deal with mood swings in her menstrual cycle.
“She had nothing to hide from her GP and of course, that’s simply consistent with what, one of the uses that we heard about from Dr Tom George, who told her to increase her dosage a couple of days before her mood swings,” he said.
“It seems once you have a diagnosis… people are entitled to use that diagnosis against you…”
He showed the jury a photograph of a box of Zoloft found in the centre console of the Holden Captiva.
Mr Fuller said the packet of Zoloft, prescribed to Ms Baden-Clay and dispensed on March 13, 2012, was empty.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226980999956
He turned to the issue of sertraline found in Ms Baden-Clay’s body.
He said the blood sample came from the liver and it was highly likely the drug was diffused, raising its concentration.
Mr Fuller said forensic pharmacologist Dr Olaf Drummer was of the view the drug sertraline, sold as Zoloft, did not contribute to her death.
He added Dr Drummer said death from sertraline overdose itself was uncommon and usually only occurred in combination with other drugs.
Mr Fuller said Ms Baden-Clay was a long-term user of Zoloft since first prescribed it in 2003.
He said her dosage had fluctuated between nothing, to 50mg to sometimes 100mg, depending on stressors in her life.
Mr Fuller said there was evidence Ms Baden-Clay visited her GP in September, 2011 and asked for her dosage of Zoloft to be increased to 100mg.
He said that meant she had been on an increased dose of Zoloft for seven months before her death.
Mr Fuller said Ms Baden-Clay had a consultation with her GP where she asked for a prescription of 100mg of Zoloft to deal with mood swings in her menstrual cycle.
“She had nothing to hide from her GP and of course, that’s simply consistent with what, one of the uses that we heard about from Dr Tom George, who told her to increase her dosage a couple of days before her mood swings,” he said.
“It seems once you have a diagnosis… people are entitled to use that diagnosis against you…”
He showed the jury a photograph of a box of Zoloft found in the centre console of the Holden Captiva.
Mr Fuller said the packet of Zoloft, prescribed to Ms Baden-Clay and dispensed on March 13, 2012, was empty.
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226980999956
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“Does that scream of an overdose or misuse? Why do you keep tablets in your car ladies and gentlemen? Is it because it’s part of your routine to remind yourself each morning to pop the pill?” he said.
He said maybe Ms Baden-Clay’s busy lifestyle meant she had yet to get the script filled from the doctor’s consultation on March 19, 2012.
“You might think she has taken that tablet close to the 19th of April,” he said
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226980999956
He said maybe Ms Baden-Clay’s busy lifestyle meant she had yet to get the script filled from the doctor’s consultation on March 19, 2012.
“You might think she has taken that tablet close to the 19th of April,” he said
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...-allison-in-2012/story-fnihsrf2-1226980999956
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You've not lost your thanks button folks....it's now over on the right
Damn Marly, I went to thank this post and my mouse finger is already retrained to go left. Now I got to retrain it to go right again. First world problems......
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1:36pm: So far today ...
* Crown prosecutor Todd Fuller QC had begun is closing address to the jury.
He had set about methodically discrediting the defence's theories about Mrs Baden-Clay's death in pointing to evidence to suggest it was unlikely she walked 13 kilometres from her home to take her own life at the Kholo Creek bridge. Mr Fuller also highlighted the testimony of defence witness Dr Michael Robertson to suggest Mrs Baden-Clay was not suffering adverse affects of her antidepressant mediation Zoloft when she set out for a walk to "clear her heard" in the early hours of April 20, 2012. He said forensic pathologist Dr Nathan Milne did not find any injuries on Mrs Baden-Clay's body to suggest she had fallen from a height. He also recalled the evidence of microscopic algae expert Dr Jacob John who did not find evidence in Mrs Baden-Clay's lungs to suggest she had drowned.
"If you exclude drowning, falling, jumping, drug toxicity, what are you left with?" Mr Fuller asked.
* Defence counsel Michael Byrne QC completed his closing address to the jury, saying Mr Baden-Clay was not a cold-blooded murderer.
"Once you have dispassionately, objectively assessed the evidence - the whole of the evidence - you would not and you could not find Gerard Baden-Clay guilty of the murder of his wife," Mr Byrne said.
"There is no cause of death, there's no motive that stands to scrutiny, there's no realistic means of him doing the things the prosecution says were done by him as part of a scenario."
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-16-week-5-20140708-3bjkw.html#ixzz36qQsgmPe
* Crown prosecutor Todd Fuller QC had begun is closing address to the jury.
He had set about methodically discrediting the defence's theories about Mrs Baden-Clay's death in pointing to evidence to suggest it was unlikely she walked 13 kilometres from her home to take her own life at the Kholo Creek bridge. Mr Fuller also highlighted the testimony of defence witness Dr Michael Robertson to suggest Mrs Baden-Clay was not suffering adverse affects of her antidepressant mediation Zoloft when she set out for a walk to "clear her heard" in the early hours of April 20, 2012. He said forensic pathologist Dr Nathan Milne did not find any injuries on Mrs Baden-Clay's body to suggest she had fallen from a height. He also recalled the evidence of microscopic algae expert Dr Jacob John who did not find evidence in Mrs Baden-Clay's lungs to suggest she had drowned.
"If you exclude drowning, falling, jumping, drug toxicity, what are you left with?" Mr Fuller asked.
* Defence counsel Michael Byrne QC completed his closing address to the jury, saying Mr Baden-Clay was not a cold-blooded murderer.
"Once you have dispassionately, objectively assessed the evidence - the whole of the evidence - you would not and you could not find Gerard Baden-Clay guilty of the murder of his wife," Mr Byrne said.
"There is no cause of death, there's no motive that stands to scrutiny, there's no realistic means of him doing the things the prosecution says were done by him as part of a scenario."
Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-16-week-5-20140708-3bjkw.html#ixzz36qQsgmPe
Is your specialist HOT? :hot:
That's what got me through the hair appointment without too much angst missing the forum.....LOL
LOL - you lot are worse than a group of hormonal high school girls with a crush on the teacher! :facepalm:
If you were my patients I would refer you to the ugliest specialist I could think of - that way you would actually concentrate on the content of the consultation instead of getting all hot and bothered. :blushing:
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Oh Marly, you were saving that one, weren't you? Love it.
Problem now is I am craving a pie?
Problem now is I am craving a pie?
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I've read this before. Where did you guys get this info from? Thanks!!!
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Good morning! :smile:
I'm eager what Mr. Supergiant Fuller has to say and in what words!
Justice for Allison
Good morning! :smile:
I'm eager what Mr. Supergiant Fuller has to say and in what words!
Justice for Allison
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