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Miss Muffet said:
I went to bed last night with a MASSIVE headache. It was actually back of the neck pain unlike anything I'd every experienced. I felt as if I was going to vomit too. I feared I had meningitis or something. I took ibuprofen and couldn't even use a pillow because the pillow hurt it. These are soft down pillows too. I actually wondered for a moment if I should go the hospital. I probably would have if I hadn't felt like I couldn't drive safely. Fortunately, I was able to fall asleep because I was sooooooooooo exhausted and the pain was gone in the morning. Just hoping that's the last time I experience it. No idea what caused it so I'm happy to blame it on the BIRD! lol
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WTF? I did too. It was midafternoon today before the headache went away.
 
....just wanted to take time out to thank you all for the work you continue to produce! Miss Muffet, take it easy, this stuff wears on even us veterans. Don't burn yourself out, we need your brain power on this one! Thank you all again for your hard work and dedication. We will solve this case.
 
wenwe4 said:
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This is what I woke up thinking about the other day (LOL) I know it's a "hoot" (from Hooters).

I guess the point we need to remember is this is not a photograph picture so it could just be artistic license with the design of this tee. It is also hard to understand the orientation of the point of view (ie: whether we are to be looking up at the bird at a 45 degree angle or a 90 degree). I don't know to be honest.
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My apologies if this has already been addressed (I went on vacation for a few days, came back and this thread has just exploded! I am trying to catch up and reply as I go... wow! you all are amazing)

I am a lifelong Renoite and we definitely had a Hooters for a while back when I was young in the early 90s. It was across the street from a large hotel/casino called the Clarion at the time, now the Atlantis. I always wanted to eat there because I loved owls but my mom never took me for some reason...
 
Miss Muffet said:
There's no reddish hue because the shirt was originally a simple design of a bird drawn with black lines on a white t-shirt. Any color you're seeing now, aside from the orange sun, is simply dirt.
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Agree it was a naturalistic drawing on a white (maybe "buff gray") tee. But disagree that there was no brownish coloring to the original bird in this print. :)
Exactly. The wings are not an owls.
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We're on the same page, here. :)

We can't get something definitive because it's not a photograph and its not a drawing made for a bird textbook. Since it's a work of art, it's not going to be an entirely accurate depiction. But Red Tailed Hawk is the top contender.
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True, and I suspected this might be the case as it's an artistic rendering--not necessarily scientific, although it has a realistic quality to it.

I'm very much hoping they get t-shirt DNA results back that will help ID this victim, as trying to discern exactly which bird of prey it is seems like such a comparably weak clue.

Just finished an expedition to our local Half Price Books and a Barnes & Noble without any success. I did find a neat art book of top wildlife illustrators from the 1980s and will do some googling on them tonite. Like you, I'm really developing an appreciation for beautiful wildlife art--almost bought the book!
 
The guy at the bird sanctuary just messaged me that it could be a Cooper Hawk. I have never heard of it. I also go a response back for the man I email who I thought was an artist, turns out he writes for National Geographic and is a bird expert. His assistant is passing on the information to him as he may have some ideas. So we wait. Hope miss Muffett hears fro the artist's son, sounds like that could be the winner here.
 
I was looking for a book on "collecting tee shirts." Our stores did not have any, but if any of you have a Half Price in town, it might be worth a look. The 80s are now considered a collectible era.
 
carbuff said:
WTF? I did too. It was midafternoon today before the headache went away.
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OMG remember the bird flu? and don't say "flew where? " LOL hope you feel better, you and Miss Muffett. I am enjoying doing these searches. I love it, it is a challenge for sure.
 
Miss Muffet said:
I was able to date the drawing of this dead artist to the 80s via the books. I had seen the drawing on the internet, and then found it in the books yesterday. Let's hope his son has a good memory. He's old enough he wouldn't have been a child at the time.
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BBM
Did you find the drawing on the t shirt??????? If so, can you post it for us?????
 
searcher8621 said:
This Oregon Birds of Prey shirt with the blue triangle is EXACTLY how I pictured what was on the shirt - thanks!!
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that one stood out for me too. It was the only one in the drive position I have seen.
 
Skully said:
OMG remember the bird flu? and don't say "flew where? " LOL hope you feel better, you and Miss Muffett. I am enjoying doing these searches. I love it, it is a challenge for sure.
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If it's not a hawk or an owl, I don't care where it flu...
 
Skully said:
The guy at the bird sanctuary just messaged me that it could be a Cooper Hawk. I have never heard of it. I also go a response back for the man I email who I thought was an artist, turns out he writes for National Geographic and is a bird expert. His assistant is passing on the information to him as he may have some ideas. So we wait. Hope miss Muffett hears fro the artist's son, sounds like that could be the winner here.
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Great that you contacted them! Excellent.
I have had a juvenile cooper's hawk visiting my yard last year and lately again. I thought of it but the bars across it's tail feathers are very thick and well defined unlike our bird. Plus the Cooper's is an accipiter and thus the tail is quite a bit longer like the harriers. (for the record I also regularly get the Peregrine Falcon, the Red Tail, the Northern Harrier and a smallish hawk that I think is a Sharp Shinned. Oh and a Great Blue Heron!)
 
Submissions:

147) Coville, Scott unk height blonde age 29ish unk dental/dna
nothing in namus
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4202dmak.html

148) McDonald, Scott E 5’11” brown age 28ish no dental (dna ?)
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/26408/1/
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/249dmak.html

149) Thompson, Robert J 6’0 grey/bald age 56 dental avail (missing after date - he was moving from Florida to Alaska to Colorado)
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2935/10/
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/668dmak.html

completes Alaska 1987 - 1993
 
PoirotryInMotion said:
Just finished an expedition to our local Half Price Books and a Barnes & Noble without any success. I did find a neat art book of top wildlife illustrators frim the 1890s and will do some googling on them tonite. Like you, I'm really developing an appreciation for beautiful wildlife art--almost bought the book!
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Thank you sooooooo much for visiting your local used book store! When I have time, I will check out other locations in my area. I feel the more used book stores we hit to flip through books from the 70s and 80s, the greater our odds.
 
Submissions:

150) Tilley, Greg S 6’4 light brown (reddish?) age 22 dentals charted dna avail (rept miss after date)
"Greg Tilley was last seen on September 18, 1992. He may have been en route to the West coast.
Greg's 1986, 4 door Chevy Nova was found abandoned and burnt in the desert in Eureka County, Nevada in July 1993." from St. Louis, MO
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2294/0/
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/288dmmo.html

151) Keith, Hester M Jr 6’0 grey age 50ish dental avail (no dna)
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2425/1/
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/76dmnc.html

152) Simmons, Douglas S 5’11 brown age 21ish (no dental) dna avail
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/5/0/
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/131dmnc.html
 
FWIW I am watching Forensic File episodes on netflix - looking for clues - I don't know how much I can take though!
 
Skully said:
I also go a response back for the man I email who I thought was an artist, turns out he writes for National Geographic and is a bird expert. His assistant is passing on the information to him as he may have some ideas. So we wait.
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This is fantastic. He'll have serious connections. Try to encourage him to use them.
 
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