AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #6

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I also can't figure out why DH would list one of his aliases along with his real name (for all to find in a simple ABN search). Can anyone suggest a benefit to doing that?
ABN link
 
I also can't figure out why DH would list one of his aliases along with his real name (for all to find in a simple ABN search). Can anyone suggest a benefit to doing that?
ABN link

I don't understand how that's even possible. An alias is simply a fake name isn't it? Isn't that illegal?
So either he gave his fake name. Or the ABN people have thought of it as 2 people running a business together?
 
He was required to present proof of identification and required an ABN for his work. He has had to change according his workplace etc. Submitting an invoice to an employer in the ACT stating you are in Alice Springs wouldnt look good.
The ATO is onto all of this with some pretty fancy powers of search.

Someone said baker.
This appears someone was working for someone else. ATO will be interested because you cant be a labourer on an ABN. There is no contract business as such.


I also can't figure out why DH would list one of his aliases along with his real name (for all to find in a simple ABN search). Can anyone suggest a benefit to doing that?
ABN link
 
That's real sharp thinking. Police had Karlie's dental work examined, but they found no matching records. Why?
But how did the killer know that she wouldn't be found soon after dumping her. How did he know she wouldn't be identified by dental records? How did forensics mess up big time, stating that the victim would have been in Australia only for a short time.

If she had been identified, for sure identity fraud would have come to light and CCTV of bank transactions etc. would have been on crime stoppers and in the press. And the person that would have been using her identity after she must already have been dead, would have to have an incredible story.

I assume they found no matching records because Karlie's dental records were not put forward as she was not officially a missing person at that time. I don't think DH and co are the sharpest tools in the shed and even seemingly intelligent people have killed and disposed of people they KNOW will be missed and they can be directly linked to, such as spouses or children. I guess with Karlie these people at least knew she hadn't been reported missing so far and with her transient history they could claim she'd just gone off on her own.
 
Judging by what I've witnessed in Alice the vast majority of the medical fraternity are from overseas. Likely the dental fraternity too. Few Aussies find it an attractive career option it seems. She probably never had any dental work done by an Australian dentist using Australian techniques .
That part really stumps me as well. The dental work led investigators searching for a backpacker of European origins. The body was poorly concealed in Milat family hunting grounds famous for killing backpackers. Why does Karlie who has lived in Australia her whole life have European dental work. This was a major factor in her not being identified. The reconstructed drawing was probably affected by that assumption as well. Why WAS the killer so confident she wouldn't be identified? Were they just extremely lucky?
 
I guess with Karlie these people at least knew she hadn't been reported missing so far and with her transient history they could claim she'd just gone off on her own.

Yeah, wel that's why I don't understand the identity fraud. By keep using her identity, they couldn't say she just left and they never heard form her again.
I guess they were desperate for the money they could get of her.
 
Yeah, wel that's why I don't understand the identity fraud. By keep using her identity, they couldn't say she just left and they never heard form her again.
I guess they were desperate for the money they could get of her.

Honestly, imo - they're halfwits. Who were very, very lucky for awhile.
 
If I stomped on your skull, it would be flat as a pancake

The coroner may have had several pieces of skull in her hands. Media doesnt state specifically whether the skull was whole to it may have been in several pieces

If the skull was in pieces, or even in one piece but damaged or distorted in some way, that could be the reason why the facial reconstruction of what the mystery Belanglo woman was supposed to have looked like, ended up rather different (broader/fuller in the face) than Karlie's actual appearance in photos.
 
I don't understand how that's even possible. An alias is simply a fake name isn't it? Isn't that illegal?
So either he gave his fake name. Or the ABN people have thought of it as 2 people running a business together?

He changed his name legally?
 
BBM I agree that this type of violence is characteristic of outlaw bikie gangs. I wouldn't be surprised if there are connections.

I agree too...the only thing is that my general impression is that this case is all about cars. There is no other clue that a bikie gang is involved though. Everyone is driving cars, owning many unregistered cars, being pulled over driving cars, car accidents, going to car shows, DH does car detailing, drag racing. No-one owns a really cool bike. :)
 
Judging by what I've witnessed in Alice the vast majority of the medical fraternity are from overseas. Likely the dental fraternity too. Few Aussies find it an attractive career option it seems. She probably never had any dental work done by an Australian dentist using Australian techniques .

That's a good point. Many foreign doctors, dentists and other health professionals are allowed to migrate to Australia on the condition that they spend a certain number of years working in an "area of medical need", i.e. somewhere that has a shortage of the services they provide. I once worked with an overseas specialist who was brilliant, could easily have ended up as a professor in a medical school or head of unit in a major city hospital, but was stuck in a little country town in the middle of nowhere for X years. Some overseas doctors/dentists are very good, some are not so good, some speak English better than others. It is particularly difficult for those with a darker complexion in country towns or remote areas where there may be more people with racist attitudes than elsewhere.

I live in Melbourne but my regular dentist is from Iran - he's a lovely, kind, caring man, very competent, charges reasonable prices and has a great "bedside manner" and good communication even if it's with a bit of an accent. So if I (heaven forbid) was murdered and my body had to be identified by dental records, then even though I have been born in Australia and lived here all my life, my teeth would show signs of work typical of the way things are done in Iran.
 
I don't think it was the dentistry that made them think she was foreign, it was the isotope analysis.

"Detectives had made enquiries with dentists local to the Southern Highlands in the hope dental comparisons might help to identify the female, but had so far been unsuccessful.

“The female’s teeth show signs of dental work typical of Western dentistry and commonly carried out in Australia, but so far we’ve been unable to match them with dental records,” he said."

http://www.news.com.au/national/pol...glo-state-forest/story-e6frfkvr-1226212134175
 
I also can't figure out why DH would list one of his aliases along with his real name (for all to find in a simple ABN search). Can anyone suggest a benefit to doing that?
ABN link

There's a great deal of info on that ABN link. Great post, thanks
 
I don't think it was the dentistry that made them think she was foreign, it was the isotope analysis.

"Detectives had made enquiries with dentists local to the Southern Highlands in the hope dental comparisons might help to identify the female, but had so far been unsuccessful.

“The female’s teeth show signs of dental work typical of Western dentistry and commonly carried out in Australia, but so far we’ve been unable to match them with dental records,” he said."

http://www.news.com.au/national/pol...glo-state-forest/story-e6frfkvr-1226212134175

They compared her teeth to dental records in the Southern Highlands (the area of NSW near the Belanglo Forest) - they probably didn't even think of looking as far afield as Alice Springs.
 
I assume they found no matching records because Karlie's dental records were not put forward as she was not officially a missing person at that time. I don't think DH and co are the sharpest tools in the shed and even seemingly intelligent people have killed and disposed of people they KNOW will be missed and they can be directly linked to, such as spouses or children. I guess with Karlie these people at least knew she hadn't been reported missing so far and with her transient history they could claim she'd just gone off on her own.

but then why go and use her card? Doesn't make sense, even if you are a few kegs short of a party.
 
but then why go and use her card? Doesn't make sense, even if you are a few kegs short of a party.

You're right, it doesn't make sense, yet people do it. There was another case in the last couple of months where a young woman was murdered and a relative(?) of the killer was caught on cctv accessing her bank account. I can't remember the name or many details but it was recent and I think it was in SA. There are lots of cases where murder and fraud go hand in hand.
 
A 1986 Commodore wouldn't have looked in the least odd in 2008. They wouldn't even be noticeable as unusual today. They are common as, well, Commodores.
In addition, remember that Karlie grew up among car fanatics and was undoubtedly one herself since she went to car shows.
She probably knew how to strip down and reassemble a Holden engine before she started school.
Holden parts are cheap and plentiful, so if she did her own mechanical work, then an older Holden is an obvious choice for her to drive on her numerous, long trips.
Easy to maintain, cheap parts, doesn't stand out.
 
He was required to present proof of identification and required an ABN for his work. He has had to change according his workplace etc. Submitting an invoice to an employer in the ACT stating you are in Alice Springs wouldnt look good.
The ATO is onto all of this with some pretty fancy powers of search.

Someone said baker.
This appears someone was working for someone else. ATO will be interested because you cant be a labourer on an ABN. There is no contract business as such.

You've lost me Crabby, what do you mean by the bolded above?
 
A labourer is someone who should be on wages. It doesn't denote you have a business. There is criteria that must be fullfilled via the ATO website.
 
And Elizabeth is where the Holden factory is which is where someone lived

A 1986 Commodore wouldn't have looked in the least odd in 2008. They wouldn't even be noticeable as unusual today. They are common as, well, Commodores.
In addition, remember that Karlie grew up among car fanatics and was undoubtedly one herself since she went to car shows.
She probably knew how to strip down and reassemble a Holden engine before she started school.
Holden parts are cheap and plentiful, so if she did her own mechanical work, then an older Holden is an obvious choice for her to drive on her numerous, long trips.
Easy to maintain, cheap parts, doesn't stand out.
 
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